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Summit 5 - Day 1
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Winners Round 2
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Results!
[Summit 5] Upper Bracket - Day 1
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_Summit/5 BTS RussiaODPixel | Merlini | Godz | KotlGuy | Fogged | GrandGrant | Maut | MRP Casperr | Versuta | Mob5ter | 4ceWinners Round 2 | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
Poll: OG vs FDL OG Win (39) FDL Win (6) 45 total votes Your vote: OG vs FDL | ||
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Aldehyde
Sweden939 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 12 2016 06:05 Aldehyde wrote: If OG don't win the while thing I might just start getting a bit worried. Why? They just won Manila and ESL One not so long ago so I wouldn't be too surprised if they haven't been practising as much. I think OG would probably use this to try out new strats just for the lulz (given the Summit is pretty lulz anyway and the prizepool isn't that convincing). Liquid on the other hand needs a huge momentum boost stepping into TI6. I think Liquid will try harder than everyone else to take this home. | ||
TheEmulator
28090 Posts
On July 12 2016 06:19 the bear jew wrote: Oh god, FDL got the worst possible Draw. Best of luck Beesa, when you go up over the top and charge bravely into enemy fire, we will salute you here on Liquiddota forums. I feel like they would get knocked down first round against anyone tbh  | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 12 2016 09:40 TheEmulator wrote: I feel like they would get knocked down first round against anyone tbh What about Ad Finem? | ||
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TheEmulator
28090 Posts
Actually that would probably be a decent series. I stand corrected. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 12 2016 12:16 TheEmulator wrote: Actually that would probably be a decent series. I stand corrected. K. Well best of luck to Beesa and Company, I hope they can put up a fight, and learn and grow more as a team. | ||
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
On July 12 2016 06:19 the bear jew wrote: Oh god, FDL got the worst possible Draw. Best of luck Beesa, when you go up over the top and charge bravely into enemy fire, we will salute you here on Liquiddota forums. Looks more like proper seeding #1 vs #8 and OG and Liquid on opposite side off the bracket. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
On July 12 2016 22:09 maze. wrote: Looks more like proper seeding #1 vs #8 and OG and Liquid on opposite side off the bracket. Yeah i get it like; 8. FDL 7. Ad Finem 6. DC 5. Wings 4. Na'vI 3. Fnatic 2. Liquid 1. OG 1vs8 2vs7 3vs6 4vs5 However i would swap Wings with Fnatic for it be a true relevance of a rank imo. | ||
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THE KING
United States10 Posts
On July 12 2016 06:19 the bear jew wrote: Oh god, FDL got the worst possible Draw. Best of luck Beesa, when you go up over the top and charge bravely into enemy fire, we will salute you here on Liquiddota forums. When the best possible matchup you could face is probably Digital Chaos, then any draw is going to be bad for you. You may as well take your reserved double-0-2-and-out spot and learn from your losses (EDIT: Which will be super valuable for them). That being said, I am excited to see if STAN KING is going to play as well as he has been in NEL as of late. His Oracle is pretty godlike. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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goody153
44127 Posts
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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wims80
1892 Posts
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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Daray
6006 Posts
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
THE CARRY | ||
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 14 2016 04:31 ahswtini wrote: beesa confirmed eating food He looks like he needs it. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
If not for SD, i would think it's my LP game. | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
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RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:43 RuiBarbO wrote: Have I missed something big in the meta recently because how is a team with Medusa, Terrorblade, and Riki winning a game in the LAN finals of a fairly prestigious tournament DC has problems with banning and planning for teams. They're showing what might be best called the "China Problem": they only know how to play against teams in their own scene. The skill is there, but they keep putting themselves in weak positions in the draft & their early has been pretty bad against most teams lately. (Except against Complexity, who they just know how to play against too well.) | ||
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
But really Medusa and TB on same team with equal farm, and winning... what gives | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:43 RuiBarbO wrote: Have I missed something big in the meta recently because how is a team with Medusa, Terrorblade, and Riki winning a game in the LAN finals of a fairly prestigious tournament TB and riki are arguably the best carry and the best support respectively, dusa is more a comfort pick for mushi and the team is used to play this exact dual core setup so nothing surprising in 6.88. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:43 RuiBarbO wrote: Have I missed something big in the meta recently because how is a team with Medusa, Terrorblade, and Riki winning a game in the LAN finals of a fairly prestigious tournament I suppose you missed Riki being a good roaming support, and Medusa being a competent midlaner. This is not the first time Fnatic has ran Medusa TB. They have some form of weird synergy despite both needing farm. Medusa has zero damage early on, and TB has plenty. TB is scared of getting jumped on by AOE/nukes, but Medusa makes you think twice before making any jumps. | ||
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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RuiBarbO
United States1340 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:47 DucK- wrote: I suppose you missed Riki being a good roaming support, and Medusa being a competent midlaner. This is not the first time Fnatic has ran Medusa TB. They have some form of weird synergy despite both needing farm. Medusa has zero damage early on, and TB has plenty. TB is scared of getting jumped on by AOE/nukes, but Medusa makes you think twice before making any jumps. That'll explain it then. Thanks. | ||
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Procake
3803 Posts
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Diavlo
Belgium2915 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:49 Procake wrote: Is Pudge the last bastion of "noob pub hero" that hasn't been 1st pick/ban yet? Bloodseeker ? He was played when everybody bitched about him but he wasn't first pick/first ban. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:49 Procake wrote: Is Pudge the last bastion of "noob pub hero" that hasn't been 1st pick/ban yet? Pudge was a first ban vs na'vi at TI2 | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:49 Procake wrote: Is Pudge the last bastion of "noob pub hero" that hasn't been 1st pick/ban yet? SB, ursa, viper were good but never tier 1, next patch is LC + BS first bans maybe? You might also add omni and warlock as noob pub hero who never made it into progames outside of niche drafts. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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maze.
Germany1392 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:49 Procake wrote: Is Pudge the last bastion of "noob pub hero" that hasn't been 1st pick/ban yet? Wings picked Pudge recently in a combo with void for 100% hooks. | ||
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 14 2016 06:24 midou wrote: Is Moo even trying to lasthit creeps? It's hard, he can't show in lane, bat could be there plus relocate. Hard to find a place to farm. | ||
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
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midou
Bulgaria1168 Posts
On July 14 2016 06:34 the bear jew wrote: It's hard, he can't show in lane, bat could be there plus relocate. Hard to find a place to farm. LOL nice timing I was talking about 15 mins ago when when he clearly missed at least 20 cs for the first 20 mins, not because he couldn't show on the lane. | ||
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GOHF
United States1864 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On July 14 2016 05:46 Taf the Ghost wrote: DC has problems with banning and planning for teams. They're showing what might be best called the "China Problem": they only know how to play against teams in their own scene. The skill is there, but they keep putting themselves in weak positions in the draft & their early has been pretty bad against most teams lately. (Except against Complexity, who they just know how to play against too well.) Good call. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On July 14 2016 06:48 M.S.Bismarck wrote: What became of all the people who went "OMG MUSHI WORSE THAN HITLER FOR KICKING NET"? Did they go to the same place as the people hyping w33? I'm still here. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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lolfail9001
Russian Federation40190 Posts
On July 14 2016 06:52 ch33psh33p wrote: DC plans of bombing 3 LANs in a row leading up to a bottom 4 TI6 finish is going well. Typical Misery team, isn't it? | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
LGD INT NEVERFORGET. | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
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Nyan
Germany1931 Posts
god lord LD is ripped no more chubby LD :| | ||
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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Elurie
4716 Posts
Why not, right? They've already gone that far off the cringe chart. | ||
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Warfie
Norway2846 Posts
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TheEmulator
28090 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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TheEmulator
28090 Posts
ARE YOU OK? | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
Sick sunder on the LOWEST HP hero in range holy shit. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
Though OG's draft was stupidly sick. | ||
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Vadrigar
Bulgaria2379 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 14 2016 08:12 Vadrigar wrote: Are we back to tinker every game now? I hate timber too, but preferred him over tinker... Well, Tinker was probably the ban against OG for the 5th pick. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 14 2016 08:37 PhoenixVoid wrote: All those Zeus games Miracle played in NEL will pay off here. After getting ganked in mid all those times, he's in no danger of tilting. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
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sacrilegious
Canada863 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Xurr
Germany313 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 14 2016 09:21 the bear jew wrote: Good game by Fnatic, but can they take a series? Both games were down to who won the draft. So, it's all down to who drafts better. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 14 2016 09:23 Xurr wrote: OG was on a timer this game and they managed to shut down the Luna quite well in earlygame. Feel like the Axe was not really very good, cost Moon a lot of farm and had no impact at all. I feel like the axe initiation was a nice idea, but they needed another pushing hero. Maybe shadow shaman, rush aghs, replace zeus with TA, who can still hunt tinker, but more push and tower damage. Tinker could just stall the mediocre push OG had and they stalled till Fnatic won. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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MetalMercury
United States1161 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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TheEmulator
28090 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32740 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
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MetalMercury
United States1161 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
On July 14 2016 10:02 Taf the Ghost wrote: Fnatic is still too used to SEA Dota: they expect more fighting than is going to happen. Maybe, but they're also losing the fights. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 14 2016 10:17 ZeaL. wrote: Yeah midones play has been really questionable on storm. But he did make space for Mushi to climb from the networth bottom By feeding himself into uselessness. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 14 2016 10:17 ZeaL. wrote: Yeah midones play has been really questionable on storm. But he did make space for Mushi to climb from the networth bottom Good laning phase, but clearly no experience playing the hero against a controlled team like OG. | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
Yeah :/ No damage now on fnatic except for Mushi | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
On July 14 2016 10:23 the bear jew wrote: And game over. Fnatic can take a game off just about anyone. But after one win vs a top team, they almost always crumble. They win series at times in important situations too .so it's quite not right. And judging from these games where every team seems to be in laid back practice mode isn't ideal thing . They looked pretty good/ better than Frankfurt that's for sure | ||
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
But the team with better draft won in game 3, I think ..there was no way after one point fnatic had tools against heavy initiation of OG | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
4665 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 14 2016 10:45 Kamisamanachi wrote: Yea..I also thought they didn't utilize their omni tht much ..that pick was pretty good Fnatic's picks weren't the problem, they got outplayed. First in letting Mushi get destroyed, then rest of team tried too hard to make space and just fed. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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Birdie
New Zealand4438 Posts
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Kamisamanachi
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