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[Dota Pit] Season 4 Qualifiers

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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-19 04:02:03
December 22 2015 16:12 GMT
#1
(Wiki)Dota Pit League Season 4 - Calendar




Direct Invites
(Wiki)Virtus.Pro
(Wiki)OG
(Wiki)Team Secret
(Wiki)TBD

Qualifiers

Americas
(Wiki)compLexity Gaming
(Wiki)Digital Chaos
(Wiki)Team Leviathan
(Wiki)Slayers of Gods
(Wiki)Elite Wolves
(Wiki)Enemy

Southeast Asia
(Wiki)MVP Phoenix
(Wiki)Mineski
(Wiki)Fnatic
(Wiki)Signature.Trust
(Wiki)First Departure
(Wiki)Team 123

Europe
Group A
(Wiki)Team Liquid
(Wiki)Team Empire
(Wiki)HellRaisers
(Wiki)STARK
(Wiki)Alliance
(Wiki)Power Rangers

Group B
(Wiki)Vega Squadron
(Wiki)Natus Vincere
(Wiki)Team Spirit
(Wiki)Mamas Boys
(Wiki)London Conspiracy
(Wiki)No Logic Gaming

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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 30 2015 06:35 GMT
#2
I'm not a huge fan of Round Robin setups when there is such a small victory condition, relative to the amount of participants. Though credit to DotaPit for seeding the teams. That allows the likely top 2 in an expected playoff match as the final one. Though, for the American qualifier, Complexity all but has it wrapped up.

E.Wolves & Leviathan are already out (as of this post). Complexity wraps this up with a 2-0 of Slayers/Unknown. Given how terrible Slayers looked, I'm pretty sure this qualifier is in the bag for Complexity.

Still, if an organization is going to run a Round Robin like this, maybe put a small prize pool for 2nd & 3rd. (Say $500 & $250) A little money goes a long ways to making the last matches worthwhile for the teams.
Klipsys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1533 Posts
December 30 2015 23:37 GMT
#3
swindle is a funny dude and I'm sure he's a chill bro, but his casting right now is seriously unprofessional as fuck. I understand wanting to be honest and speaking your mind, but you gotta find a euphemistic way to say the things he's saying. Sheesh I'd be worried if I was dota pit about sponsor reactions.
Hudson Valley Progamer
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
December 31 2015 00:13 GMT
#4
What the fuck is this draft? Clockwerk can't man up for both TInker and Ember spirit.
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3789 Posts
December 31 2015 00:21 GMT
#5
I think this is the worst unforced error I've seen since KYXY denying aegis.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
December 31 2015 02:55 GMT
#6
DC versus Leviathan G2 is the single most heartbreaking TA game I've ever seen. Only her own team's Vengeful Spirit had a lower net worth by the end of the game.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
December 31 2015 05:02 GMT
#7
On December 31 2015 08:37 Klipsys wrote:
swindle is a funny dude and I'm sure he's a chill bro, but his casting right now is seriously unprofessional as fuck. I understand wanting to be honest and speaking your mind, but you gotta find a euphemistic way to say the things he's saying. Sheesh I'd be worried if I was dota pit about sponsor reactions.

What did he say?
Bodhi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States180 Posts
January 11 2016 20:10 GMT
#8
Pretty major series coming up for DC. If they lose here and miss out on Dotapit then I don't see them sticking together as a team.
Nycaloth
Profile Joined October 2010
147 Posts
January 12 2016 19:53 GMT
#9
Is there a stream?
"I'm still confused, but on a higher level" ~Fermi
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
January 12 2016 19:57 GMT
#10
At the end of the last game, Tobi said they were done for several days. And Alliance should be traveling right now. So I'm guessing the LD calendar is mistaken.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
January 18 2016 21:30 GMT
#11
I loved the casting in the last of today's games, so much hype. :D
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 21 2016 20:06 GMT
#12
Yeah bounty is pretty good against this jungle ls bs.
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
January 21 2016 20:18 GMT
#13
Liwuid really seem to struggle against LD... maybe MC should train him so they can pick him themselves
EXTERMINATE!
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 20:21 GMT
#14
I haven't watched Liquid in a while and I see them losing against HR. What the hell? They are losing to a tier 3 team. Uh....
Don't mind me
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 21 2016 20:24 GMT
#15
It's actually so good to see this stupid Kuro Lifestealer bullshit fail miserably.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 21 2016 20:24 GMT
#16
well that's why jungle naix is a pocket strat :D
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 20:25 GMT
#17
This is one of the worst games I have ever seen from Team Liquid. They have no strategy and they are just chasing kills and dying. Wow...
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 20:30:16
January 21 2016 20:29 GMT
#18
After their poor showing in Starleague, they put up another stinker here. Are they not practicing? They seems to be regressing in skill and strategy.
Don't mind me
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 21 2016 20:31 GMT
#19
On January 22 2016 05:29 ptbl wrote:
After their poor showing in Starleague, they put up another stinker here. Are they not practicing? They seems to be regressing in skill and strategy.


top4 = "poor showing" TIL again
you can argue that they crumbled on stage against alliance and did not look good but seriously? poor showing?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-21 20:32:56
January 21 2016 20:32 GMT
#20
On January 22 2016 05:29 ptbl wrote:
After their poor showing in Starleague, they put up another stinker here. Are they not practicing? They seems to be regressing in skill and strategy.

3rd-4th at SL is a poor showing?

And are you not noticing that this is a Kuroky Lifestealer and Matumba Tinker game? They're pissing about. Er. . .I mean, "testing strats".
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 21 2016 20:33 GMT
#21
On January 22 2016 05:29 ptbl wrote:
After their poor showing in Starleague, they put up another stinker here. Are they not practicing? They seems to be regressing in skill and strategy.

Weren't you going to try not being negative? They lost a bo3 in the semifinals to the eventual champions. That's not a poor showing. And this is just a clowny strat they've been trying out the last few games. No surprises it fails once the other team actually knows what's happening.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 20:34 GMT
#22
On January 22 2016 05:31 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 05:29 ptbl wrote:
After their poor showing in Starleague, they put up another stinker here. Are they not practicing? They seems to be regressing in skill and strategy.


top4 = "poor showing" TIL again
you can argue that they crumbled on stage against alliance and did not look good but seriously? poor showing?


People were saying that Liquid deserved an invite to the Major rather than Alliance. Liquid choked and pulled a stinker on the Starladder stage against Alliance. It was an under performance and a stinker.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 20:35 GMT
#23
On January 22 2016 05:33 SFDuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 05:29 ptbl wrote:
After their poor showing in Starleague, they put up another stinker here. Are they not practicing? They seems to be regressing in skill and strategy.

Weren't you going to try not being negative? They lost a bo3 in the semifinals to the eventual champions. That's not a poor showing. And this is just a clowny strat they've been trying out the last few games. No surprises it fails once the other team actually knows what's happening.


Yeah, this is why you didn't see me comment in the Alliance vs Team Liquid match. But losing to a tier 3 team is too much in my book. This deserves some criticism.
Don't mind me
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 21 2016 20:49 GMT
#24
It's one game with a cheese strat. Relax.

If they lose the bo3 you can whine to your heart's content.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 21 2016 20:50 GMT
#25
It's hardly amazing if a good team like Liquid loses to a decent team like HR in a game Liquid probably aren't too fussed about and are using to try out picks.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 21 2016 20:59 GMT
#26
Tinker about to get smacked down again.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 21:04 GMT
#27
Ok, I will consider the last game a flukey lost. I will give TL a pass. They better win this next game then.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 21:13 GMT
#28
So, why are Liquid giving matum Tinker? It's one of his weaker hero.
Don't mind me
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 21 2016 21:43 GMT
#29
On January 22 2016 06:13 ptbl wrote:
So, why are Liquid giving matum Tinker? It's one of his weaker hero.


How do you know?


BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 21 2016 21:49 GMT
#30
all i know is that liquid are throwing a bit here
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 21:57 GMT
#31
Sloppy from Liquid, but I'll take it.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#32
On January 22 2016 06:43 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:13 ptbl wrote:
So, why are Liquid giving matum Tinker? It's one of his weaker hero.


How do you know?




He has only [;ayed 12 times on it and has a 50% win percentage. It's not even his top 5 hero. http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/72312627
Don't mind me
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
January 21 2016 21:59 GMT
#33
Lmao that Ember trying to sneak Roshan while the rest of the team is desperately fighting.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 21 2016 22:02 GMT
#34
On January 22 2016 06:59 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:43 Daray wrote:
On January 22 2016 06:13 ptbl wrote:
So, why are Liquid giving matum Tinker? It's one of his weaker hero.


How do you know?




He has only [;ayed 12 times on it and has a 50% win percentage. It's not even his top 5 hero. http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/72312627


I am just going to believe that you're the sneakiest troll known to man and not actually serious. It will help me sleep better at night.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 22:13 GMT
#35
On January 22 2016 07:02 Daray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 06:59 ptbl wrote:
On January 22 2016 06:43 Daray wrote:
On January 22 2016 06:13 ptbl wrote:
So, why are Liquid giving matum Tinker? It's one of his weaker hero.


How do you know?




He has only [;ayed 12 times on it and has a 50% win percentage. It's not even his top 5 hero. http://www.dotabuff.com/esports/players/72312627


I am just going to believe that you're the sneakiest troll known to man and not actually serious. It will help me sleep better at night.


Can we agree that I'm a passionate Team Liquid fan?
Don't mind me
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 21 2016 22:15 GMT
#36
On January 22 2016 06:59 Loanshark wrote:
Lmao that Ember trying to sneak Roshan while the rest of the team is desperately fighting.

Yeah, that's Play of the Month for sure.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 21 2016 22:22 GMT
#37
Damnit Kuro, can you just play actual supports instead of trying to be all fancy?
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 21 2016 22:24 GMT
#38
lol what is even happening right now. what a game.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 22:26 GMT
#39
Is the 4 position starting to become a core/carry? I'v been seeing Kuro playing a lot of non traditional supports lately
Don't mind me
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 21 2016 22:44 GMT
#40
MC Dagon on Dark Seer.

I get the feeling Liquid aren't taking this tournament too seriously.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 21 2016 22:44 GMT
#41
Tobi keeps calling "1st hit entangle" any entangle, it's hilarious xD
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
January 21 2016 22:46 GMT
#42
Much cleaner win from Liquid. Let's finish with another win and call it a good day.
Don't mind me
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 21 2016 22:47 GMT
#43
On January 22 2016 07:26 ptbl wrote:
Is the 4 position starting to become a core/carry? I'v been seeing Kuro playing a lot of non traditional supports lately


this is what ive been saying for a while now.

if you draft a hero that can be a 4 but transition into a semi-carry and play semi-greedy, you're gonna be better off.

dunno, this is only one game, but its what ive been saying is going to become popular for a while now unless icefrog makes changes to the way gold and xp works.

adding extra camps only makes it 'worse'
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38199 Posts
January 21 2016 22:51 GMT
#44
I don't think greedy 4th positions will really be here to stay. Just sometimes you'll get away with it. If it catches on teams will adjust their drafting so they can adjust if needed and it will get punished. Kuro always likes playing greedy as fuck heroes anyway.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 21 2016 22:51 GMT
#45
On January 22 2016 07:47 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2016 07:26 ptbl wrote:
Is the 4 position starting to become a core/carry? I'v been seeing Kuro playing a lot of non traditional supports lately


this is what ive been saying for a while now.

if you draft a hero that can be a 4 but transition into a semi-carry and play semi-greedy, you're gonna be better off.

dunno, this is only one game, but its what ive been saying is going to become popular for a while now unless icefrog makes changes to the way gold and xp works.

adding extra camps only makes it 'worse'

It's because the current mid hero pool has a lot less ricers, it opens up some farm for the other heroes without sacrificing the pos1.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 21 2016 22:52 GMT
#46
plus iron talon is so effin good lol
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
SFDuality
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1318 Posts
January 21 2016 23:16 GMT
#47
Pretty hard to pick a greedier support combo than Earth Spirit Beastmaster.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 21 2016 23:16 GMT
#48
Pos 4 beastmaster, the greed is real once again.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
RuiBarbO
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States1340 Posts
January 21 2016 23:20 GMT
#49
What the heck is this lineup from Liquid?
Can someone please explain/how water falls with no rain?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 21 2016 23:34 GMT
#50
Empire, don't let xboct do the calls.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 21 2016 23:50 GMT
#51
GG, resolution was really impressive.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
January 21 2016 23:51 GMT
#52
Didn't like the 4 position jungle BM.
I think esports is pretty nice.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 21 2016 23:51 GMT
#53
Always nice to see Resolution on his game. Xboct and Aloha both looked good too, though of course there were a couple derps.

But I'm not taking Liquid too seriously in this tournament 'cause they sure aren't.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 25 2016 19:02 GMT
#54
I think aloha should go for a 2nd BF right now against chen and NP, all empire wants to do is win some more time and a 2nd BF is better than crit right now imo, for teamfights and pushing.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
SupportDotA2
Profile Joined September 2013
Japan307 Posts
January 25 2016 19:19 GMT
#55
Lmao "wp"
Kappa
Frazzlehoon
Profile Joined July 2008
United States3455 Posts
January 25 2016 19:20 GMT
#56
loool

wp )
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
January 25 2016 20:23 GMT
#57
rip twitch??
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 25 2016 20:32 GMT
#58
Twitch dead.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 25 2016 20:51 GMT
#59
nah, Russia is still going
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 25 2016 21:14 GMT
#60
rofl, puck needs to be nerfed
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Keardan
Profile Joined May 2014
Netherlands527 Posts
January 25 2016 21:14 GMT
#61
Fata! That was sick play!
If I'm asking noob questions, it's because I'm a noob, not because I'm being sarcastic.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
January 25 2016 21:30 GMT
#62
Slark tilted hard after so many fail ganks with under 100 HP heroes. Or they're just bad, I don't know this team that much but I think they tilted.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Nyan
Profile Joined April 2015
Germany1931 Posts
January 29 2016 18:37 GMT
#63
balaned dp wisp lol
?=・ェ・=) oʞǝu (^=˃ᆺ˂) oʞǝu (=xェx=) oʞǝu (=^-ω-^=) ( ⓛ ω ⓛ *) oʞǝu (ㅇㅅㅇ❀) oʞǝu (=ↀωↀ=)✧ oʞǝu (=・ェ・=?
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
January 29 2016 19:20 GMT
#64
Fata getting some c9 flashbacks in this game. From top4 net worth at 15-20min or whatever to a loss
Daaktard
Profile Joined March 2013
Sweden380 Posts
January 29 2016 19:22 GMT
#65
Man, liquid just dropped the ball there in game 2. Well played from PR though.
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-29 19:23:04
January 29 2016 19:22 GMT
#66
So, what about the Liquid throw and choke :/
Don't mind me
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
January 29 2016 19:27 GMT
#67
that was kuro fault , he cant protect DP and CK at the same time , liquid lack of burst damage , no one strong enough to fight farmed spectre

time for position 4 naix
6nnn
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
January 29 2016 19:33 GMT
#68
It was just really bad play individually and strategically by splitting up so much and getting caught. The amount of times AA hit 2-3 heroes with ice blast was insane and it was all on liquid hugging each other for unknown reasons.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 17:53 GMT
#69
Close game between Navi and Vega. Good plays by both teams. Interesting relocates by navi but will they be able to end game before spectre gets radiance and gets big. We will see.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 18:08 GMT
#70
DP bought back. Kill Dp, she's out. And Sven can kill spectre with MKB. Just need one good fight.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 31 2016 18:12 GMT
#71
The QoP+Wisp was a cute combo
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 18:16 GMT
#72
On February 01 2016 03:12 Salazarz wrote:
The QoP+Wisp was a cute combo


Did good work in lane. Sven and Io made some good ganks, did some tiny relocate plays to hit building to make Vega unable to take tier 1 bot. Did a really good job slowing Vega's push, really good overall map movements and split push for Navi. Which isn't something they traditionally have been good with. Let's see how game 2 goes.

A good overall team performance.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 31 2016 18:22 GMT
#73
NaVi ES, lets see...
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 18:23 GMT
#74
Hmmm...offlane enchantress, carry NP like what EG did with Arteezy?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 18:27 GMT
#75
Full push strat with some big early game teamfight, good gank. I like it. It's a different risky draft, but let's see how it goes.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
January 31 2016 18:37 GMT
#76
Na'vi killed them under their tower, and then took the tower
You mean I just write stuff here and other people can see it?
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 18:45 GMT
#77
Lol General, so cocky.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 18:47:36
January 31 2016 18:46 GMT
#78
On February 01 2016 03:45 the bear jew wrote:
Lol General, so cocky.

Yea, I believe he thought pasha was alone and tried to lock him on the ward spot, but...

Edit: ArtStyle pos4 btw.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 18:52:59
January 31 2016 18:51 GMT
#79
Navi slowly suffocating Vega. Taking their jungle, slowly chipping tier 2 safelane.

I guess they just wait for rosh. Looks to be the plan.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 18:54:47
January 31 2016 18:53 GMT
#80
On February 01 2016 03:51 the bear jew wrote:
Navi slowly suffocating Vega. Taking their jungle, slowly chipping tier 2 safelane.

I guess they just wait for rosh. Looks to be the plan.

Either that or they have no clue how to play this line up to the end :O

Edit: Ench is actually a pain this patch
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-31 19:01:32
January 31 2016 18:59 GMT
#81
Nah, Na'Vi's movements are pretty damn good. They're actually at a major risk this game. Chrono+Invoker will wipe their lineup at every stage of the game, so Na'Vi's path to victory is getting Vega out of position and taking advantage of it. They're doing that pretty well. The style of gameplay they're using is extremely strategically challenging, and I'm really enjoying my chance of watching it.

Like, did you see the timing on that T3 push? Exorcism came off cooldown the very second Dendi got in range of the tower, and about ten seconds after they killed it and disengaged, Aegis expired. That was so damn tight I can't believe it, and this is what Na'Vi have been doing all game.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 31 2016 19:00 GMT
#82
General's pickoffs are fun to watch, but feels like he'd get punished heavily by a more coordinated team for stuff like this;;
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 19:02 GMT
#83
Interesting Dendi isn't getting octarine. If I remember right, he doesn't like DP, think that was mentioned during TI4. So maybe he's still using his Dendi built from TI4.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 31 2016 19:02 GMT
#84
On February 01 2016 04:00 Salazarz wrote:
General's pickoffs are fun to watch, but feels like he'd get punished heavily by a more coordinated team for stuff like this;;

You're definitely right. I don't think he's quite good enough to make this work right now, and I don't think Na'Vi on a whole are strong enough to be able to do this to any of the teams above Vega, but I think it's great that they're practicing a style that seems to really suit them.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 19:05 GMT
#85
I think that's still a good play by Navi.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 31 2016 19:07 GMT
#86
100% a good play by Na'Vi. They forced buybacks and took rax. It was messy and required sacrifice, but they minimized their sacrifice and recognized when they had to let heroes drop. It was overall superbly disciplined play.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 31 2016 19:08 GMT
#87
That save! lol
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
January 31 2016 19:08 GMT
#88
So many Na'Vi fanboys here
We are hungry for wins, and we got a win here
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
January 31 2016 19:09 GMT
#89
Very well played by Na'Vi. I really want to see more games like this out of them, and I want them to hone their skills both individually and as a team so that they can start doing this against higher-level teams.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 19:09 GMT
#90
Damn, great 2 game series by Navi, looks promising. Now they just have to keep it up. But good start.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
January 31 2016 19:09 GMT
#91
Nice play by NaVi!
Heroes of T2 atm... can they get back to the very top?
There can only be one Geisterkarle
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 31 2016 19:09 GMT
#92
On February 01 2016 04:08 V1ctor wrote:
So many Na'Vi fanboys here
We are hungry for wins, and we got a win here


It's the team that got me into competitive Dota. Gotta root for them.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
January 31 2016 19:19 GMT
#93
Well, its the first official series with GeneRaL, lets hope they only get better, we will see.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
January 31 2016 22:11 GMT
#94
holy shit i missed the series i was having launch I NEED TO WATCH THE VODS !
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 01 2016 01:21 GMT
#95
On February 01 2016 07:11 Faruko wrote:
holy shit i missed the series i was having launch I NEED TO WATCH THE VODS !


You will like what you see. Of course, they need to continue playing well, but first matches were promising.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
February 01 2016 18:19 GMT
#96
I like this draft. There's a lot of what I guess I want to term "fields of control." Like, Invoker lays down his spells, and that stops people from going into or through an area, and then Tiny does the same, and there's another barrier, and Void lays down Chrono, and there's another, and then WW can do the same... and all the while, Enchantress is in the back dealing damage. It just feels like they're gonna be able to do a great job of keeping the majority of Mama's Boys exactly where they want them to be, and like any kind of constrained terrain will favor Na'Vi overwhelmingly.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
February 01 2016 18:42 GMT
#97
dendi invoker so good
this is the navi i like seeing
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 01 2016 18:59 GMT
#98
DAT Icepath tho!
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
February 01 2016 19:06 GMT
#99
Dendi played invoker at miracle level that game
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 01 2016 19:12 GMT
#100
Good thing this patch favours Invoker, Dendi still has it.
WriterXiao8~~
Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
February 04 2016 20:27 GMT
#101
Navi nearly threw that, but got back big! Nice one!
There can only be one Geisterkarle
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
February 04 2016 21:01 GMT
#102
s-god
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
February 04 2016 21:15 GMT
#103
that bodyblock with the enchantress illusion was pretty sick
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
February 04 2016 21:49 GMT
#104
wow navi
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-04 21:50:34
February 04 2016 21:50 GMT
#105
So they are 8-0 since Sonneiko has taken over Artsyle duties. Even against tier 2-3 teams that is a good result
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
February 04 2016 21:52 GMT
#106
On February 05 2016 06:50 V1ctor wrote:
So they are 8-0 since Sonneiko has taken over Artsyle duties. Even against tier 2-3 teams that is a good result

You mean sonneiko is drafting now? I did not know, I hope he eventually plays in a tier 1 team, specially if it's na'vi itself becoming tier 1 again.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
February 04 2016 21:52 GMT
#107
General did some serious work with the chronos too, especially considering theres a venge on the other team
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
V1ctor
Profile Joined March 2011
Moldova1645 Posts
February 04 2016 21:56 GMT
#108
On February 05 2016 06:52 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:50 V1ctor wrote:
So they are 8-0 since Sonneiko has taken over Artsyle duties. Even against tier 2-3 teams that is a good result

You mean sonneiko is drafting now? I did not know, I hope he eventually plays in a tier 1 team, specially if it's na'vi itself becoming tier 1 again.



LoH mentioned on ru stream that sonneiko is captain now. Well, Na'Vi is a tier 2 team for sure, hope they get to tier 1 soon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 04 2016 22:24 GMT
#109
On February 05 2016 06:56 V1ctor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2016 06:52 nojok wrote:
On February 05 2016 06:50 V1ctor wrote:
So they are 8-0 since Sonneiko has taken over Artsyle duties. Even against tier 2-3 teams that is a good result

You mean sonneiko is drafting now? I did not know, I hope he eventually plays in a tier 1 team, specially if it's na'vi itself becoming tier 1 again.



LoH mentioned on ru stream that sonneiko is captain now. Well, Na'Vi is a tier 2 team for sure, hope they get to tier 1 soon


According to what I have read, they always collaborated on drafting and in game calls. So maybe he means Soinneko is doing all the ingame calls?

Artstyle's early jungle roamers Enchantress/Chen really impressive stuff from the games I watched. Whole team is playing pretty well now.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 04 2016 23:08 GMT
#110
For dotapit, is this the famed offlane CIS guy badman who does offlane spectre in pubs?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 05 2016 18:50 GMT
#111
I take it Navi is still only pushing capable.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38199 Posts
February 05 2016 18:51 GMT
#112
Both try to dive WD under t2. Get casked. Lose your carry to death ward. Na'Vi xDDD
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 19:21:59
February 05 2016 19:11 GMT
#113
Lol Artstyle single-handedly repels the push :D

[Spelling edit]
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-05 19:25:53
February 05 2016 19:20 GMT
#114
What the hell happened these two games?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
February 05 2016 19:21 GMT
#115
On February 06 2016 04:20 Acritter wrote:
What the hell happened these two games?

(single-handedly)

TLDR: Navi still can't do anything but push.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
February 05 2016 19:26 GMT
#116
Man, I hope they learn from those mistakes and don't get discouraged.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 17:20 GMT
#117
I like Liquids draft here.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 10 2016 17:28 GMT
#118
funny, I like rox's
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 17:42 GMT
#119
Global strat with utility prophet is so sexy.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 17:50:16
February 10 2016 17:48 GMT
#120
When MC gets aghs brood is done.

Edit: ok, they're already done.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 18:34 GMT
#121
Fata pls.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 18:43 GMT
#122
MC? Why don't you pick up the gem.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 18:59 GMT
#123
Legion doing nothing this game, looking rough.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 19:04:10
February 10 2016 19:03 GMT
#124
OneManSpam.
I think esports is pretty nice.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
February 10 2016 19:04 GMT
#125
This has to be one of the worst pro Invoker I've ever seen. Missed tornado, DB, sunstrike left and right.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 10 2016 19:05 GMT
#126
This is quite the game tbh
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 19:09:17
February 10 2016 19:08 GMT
#127
Lol, duel and lasso, no dmg.
I think esports is pretty nice.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
February 10 2016 19:08 GMT
#128
liquid plz dont do this to me...
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 19:11 GMT
#129
How did Fata die full health?
I think esports is pretty nice.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
February 10 2016 19:12 GMT
#130
GG
I think esports is pretty nice.
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
February 10 2016 19:13 GMT
#131
On February 11 2016 04:11 Saechiis wrote:
How did Fata die full health?

Shotgun, DB, Meatball, impetus.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
February 10 2016 19:14 GMT
#132
damn it, not going to lan because of this shit, against a tier 2 team.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
February 10 2016 19:17 GMT
#133
I wonder if Kuro actually thinks that playing these 4 position heroes that might end up doing nothing the whole game (like now) is more beneficial than running more conventional heroes without the iron talon cheese.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 19:21:04
February 10 2016 19:18 GMT
#134
I think it's fine, he just didn't build blink, aether lens was a gamelosing experiment there.
I think esports is pretty nice.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-10 19:18:58
February 10 2016 19:18 GMT
#135
i dont have any problem with liquid testing strategies and new lineups. but plz not in important games like this...
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
February 10 2016 19:19 GMT
#136
support LC is totally viable guys
Heaven's Halberd is the most criminally underbought item in Dota. Together we can stop this.
Taosu
Profile Joined August 2010
Ukraine1074 Posts
February 14 2016 18:55 GMT
#137
Draw confirmed
[image loading]
Also fan of Hyuk, Pure, free, Action, Stats, Leta, Horang2, Snow, Flying, Shuttle, Movie, Paralyze
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
February 14 2016 19:31 GMT
#138
On February 15 2016 03:55 Taosu wrote:
Draw confirmed
[image loading]

Lol, nice one. What does it take so long?
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