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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3181
On August 06 2015 08:21 mutantmagnet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:18 superstartran wrote:
On August 06 2015 08:17 Azarkon wrote:
This was 99% on Secret. Sure, IG played well in the fights but when did Secret become C9? What was that decision. They were done with this game. This game was won. What. The. Fuck.

Just win the next two and go back home and think about what you're doing, Secret.



Secret got 100% outdrafted. They let AM get Burning on the biggest stage.

And really iG just outplayed Secret; no one plays perfect, as iG demonstrated that they didn't play their best early on, but they still out executed Secret when it counted most. Stop making excuses.



No they didn't get outdrafted. Secret's ability to control the entire map while losing 1 tower shows they had played their draft very well.

THe problem is as others pointed out the decisions made when trying to breach high ground. This wasn't a draft loss.


It was because of that 'all in first 1.4k gold I buy 2 bottles for team' and that half assed professional WW, plus western team have this tendency of hate buying hex

And the most important reason they lose game1 because they have no respect to BGOD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Zizy
Profile Joined August 2012
Croatia684 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3182
"I like Clock because it's different hero then Tusk" Thanks for the fucking insight sheever
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3183
I knew it was coming
Squat
Profile Joined September 2013
Sweden7978 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3184
On August 06 2015 08:22 Evander Berry Wall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:19 Squat wrote:
I wonder how long it takes Secret to reshuffle if they lose here.


If they lose this, I would not expect a reshuffle. I would expect Secret to cease to exist.

I think S4 may be gone. His performance has been questionable lately, very shaky. I think RTZ and Zai will stick together. Kuro and Puppey too.
"Digital. They have digital. What is digital?" - Donald J Trump
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3185
ggwp, Secret you tried
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3186
On August 06 2015 08:25 uthgard wrote:
I smell a PL

right
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3187
PL vs bounty + clock. Seems like it will be similar to be last game
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13069 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3188
Hope we can see Ember or manly Sven for Secret.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Kittan
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland3999 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3189
And there's the PL.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=81288 <--- How I fell in love with a man, a team, a game and a website in a single day... | "There are no false gods, there is only the Emperor, and Choi Yun Sung is his prophet." -> Zona 40k
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3190
Burning PL, this could easily be super dangerous
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 05 2015 23:27 GMT
#3191
no tusk thank god
:)
maze.
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1392 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3192
Time for RTZ ember.
Misery on Secret: I managed to get kicked twice from the same team before I got my share of the money. 4Head
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3193
On August 06 2015 08:25 Gear 3rd wrote:
Imo secret playing not on their highest lvl is certainly one thing (self euls; winters curse on AM illu TWICE and so on...) is one thing but i think a bigger problem is that huge red dot on their forehead, which they are wearing at least since ESL ONE 2015.
I learned from this TI that it seems impossible to dominate in TI if you get in the enemy teams focus too much. Every one just analysed the shit out of secret. Propably watched the replays more often than secret did themselves... and it feels that on this lvl of play it is impossible to stand up to the focus YOU WILL GET FIGURED OUT. Ehome showed this and i bet they will get rekt by EG. So either you intentionally suck time and time again to losen the enemys focus on you (yeah it sounds ridiculous) or you question everything that made you successfull and start something new from scratch not really knowing if it works or not.

TL;DR: I'm sad!

that doesn't explain alliance winning ti3

secret is just cracking under the pressure
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3194
Arteezy is forced to play Ember.
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3195
On August 06 2015 08:26 TheYango wrote:
Did S4 just collapse? They're falling back on the Puppey draft in their darkest hour.

TBH if Puppey pulls this off he's a fucking god.


s4 still has the crown
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3196
On August 06 2015 08:26 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:24 Loanshark wrote:
This is just my 2k opinion, but both teams had good strategy, it just came down to execution, and split second positioning/decision-making. It's like EHOME yesterday. The Chinese teams seem to have figured out how best to deal with Secret.

People here saying that they let AM freefarm and pissed away the lead...that's not it. They had the rest of iG bottled in the base. The lead is only going to increase. So they wait for Arteezy to be six slotted, instantly go for Roshan, and then try for game-ending mid push. Meanwhile iG figures it out too. They don't try desperation smokes. You don't force fights when Secret has advantage outside the base. They have a line-up that can wombo combo to defend high ground from behind.

Once they held against Arteezy six slot, they can only narrow the lead from there. AM and Gyro has more late game than SF and Storm.


yep. People keep saying it was burning alone, but chuan and luo hold their base with those vacuum + stun combos.


430 did well considering how low his farm was. Lion too. It just happened Burning stood out.
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uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3197
with that Pl pick I feel like secret almost already lost
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3198
On August 06 2015 08:27 Unleashing wrote:
Burning PL, this could easily be super dangerous

hey guys remember burning double heart pl
:)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3199
LUHNA
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
August 05 2015 23:28 GMT
#3200
Terrible draft so far tbh for secret, unless they are baiting out the PL.
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