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Rhayader
Profile Joined October 2012
Romania189 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3161
On August 06 2015 08:24 Steelavocado wrote:
is it me or has tusk been underperforming all tourny?


I feel the same way.
Evander Berry Wall
Profile Joined June 2014
United States1137 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3162
Look at Secret. You can even see how frazzled they are.
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3163
Imo secret playing not on their highest lvl is certainly one thing (self euls; winters curse on AM illu TWICE and so on...) is one thing but i think a bigger problem is that huge red dot on their forehead, which they are wearing at least since ESL ONE 2015.
I learned from this TI that it seems impossible to dominate in TI if you get in the enemy teams focus too much. Every one just analysed the shit out of secret. Propably watched the replays more often than secret did themselves... and it feels that on this lvl of play it is impossible to stand up to the focus YOU WILL GET FIGURED OUT. Ehome showed this and i bet they will get rekt by EG. So either you intentionally suck time and time again to losen the enemys focus on you (yeah it sounds ridiculous) or you question everything that made you successfull and start something new from scratch not really knowing if it works or not.

TL;DR: I'm sad!
EXTERMINATE!
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32754 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3164
Secret look worried and stressed.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3165
Hahaha wake up to see Secret lost. I knew they would get figured out. Chinese will continue their domination.

Nice pocket strat by iG picking up the gyro first. Secret did not expect a gyro mid and hence did not ban AM. Furthermore Secret first picked Storm 2nd phase to try to deny the Ferrari storm. But iG baited this for the antimage last pick. What a draft by iG
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3166
I see IG recognize which hero actually won that game with their second pick.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3167
On August 06 2015 08:24 Loanshark wrote:
This is just my 2k opinion, but both teams had good strategy, it just came down to execution, and split second positioning/decision-making. It's like EHOME yesterday. The Chinese teams seem to have figured out how best to deal with Secret.

People here saying that they let AM freefarm and pissed away the lead...that's not it. They had the rest of iG bottled in the base. The lead is only going to increase. So they wait for Arteezy to be six slotted, instantly go for Roshan, and then try for game-ending mid push. Meanwhile iG figures it out too. They don't try desperation smokes. You don't force fights when Secret has advantage outside the base. They have a line-up that can wombo combo to defend high ground from behind.

Once they held against Arteezy six slot, they can only narrow the lead from there. AM and Gyro has more late game than SF and Storm.

The really big mistake was rtz and s4 diving for the burning kill @ T3 mid. Got them both killed, and game was hard after that.
:)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17815 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3168
Why the hell would iG pick SF? SF has terrible, terrible win rate in the main event.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3169
Let's go ig!
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 23:26:33
August 05 2015 23:25 GMT
#3170
Secret has to be on complete full tilt. They've been playing like shit on the main stage, and what worst to go out by getting 2-0'd by a team they've been destroying all year. Secret peaked way too early, and it looks like the Secret was exposed!
Getting too old for this..
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3171
On August 06 2015 08:24 Steelavocado wrote:
is it me or has tusk been underperforming all tourny?

It's done well with techies but other than that it's usually underwhelming
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3172
On August 06 2015 08:25 pellejohnson wrote:
Nice to see some more DS. It feels like a lot of teams undervalue him and value he brings to team fights.

Although why does no one buy aghs? The 120% damage illusions are fucking insane late game


Only kicks in if the enemy cores are building on pure stats. Maybe against the likes of Morph and CK.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 23:27:22
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3173
On August 06 2015 08:24 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:22 Flacracker wrote:
I haven't watched every game so far at TI. Has there been any prevailing strats here like TI4 with the deathball?

Yes. Pick lategame heroes, wait for enemy team to royally fuck up.


Honestly, I feel that the Chinese have realized that they can't beat Secret's early and mid game so that is actually the best bet.

Look they're trying it again with Burning PL
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3174
On August 06 2015 08:24 Loanshark wrote:
This is just my 2k opinion, but both teams had good strategy, it just came down to execution, and split second positioning/decision-making. It's like EHOME yesterday. The Chinese teams seem to have figured out how best to deal with Secret.

People here saying that they let AM freefarm and pissed away the lead...that's not it. They had the rest of iG bottled in the base. The lead is only going to increase. So they wait for Arteezy to be six slotted, instantly go for Roshan, and then try for game-ending mid push. Meanwhile iG figures it out too. They don't try desperation smokes. You don't force fights when Secret has advantage outside the base. They have a line-up that can wombo combo to defend high ground from behind.

Once they held against Arteezy six slot, they can only narrow the lead from there. AM and Gyro has more late game than SF and Storm.


yep. People keep saying it was burning alone, but chuan and luo hold their base with those vacuum + stun combos.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3175
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3176
Did S4 just collapse? They're falling back on the Puppey draft in their darkest hour.

TBH if Puppey pulls this off he's a fucking god.
Moderator
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3177
On August 06 2015 08:25 Gear 3rd wrote:
Imo secret playing not on their highest lvl is certainly one thing (self euls; winters curse on AM illu TWICE and so on...) is one thing but i think a bigger problem is that huge red dot on their forehead, which they are wearing at least since ESL ONE 2015.
I learned from this TI that it seems impossible to dominate in TI if you get in the enemy teams focus too much. Every one just analysed the shit out of secret. Propably watched the replays more often than secret did themselves... and it feels that on this lvl of play it is impossible to stand up to the focus YOU WILL GET FIGURED OUT. Ehome showed this and i bet they will get rekt by EG. So either you intentionally suck time and time again to losen the enemys focus on you (yeah it sounds ridiculous) or you question everything that made you successfull and start something new from scratch not really knowing if it works or not.

TL;DR: I'm sad!


So what you're saying is...

Americans win?
Sif_
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil3106 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3178
secret is devastated in their booth podcam
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3179
Guys this just in
The Secret Sponsor is a bookie Kingpin who will make millions on them going out this early
it all makes a lot of sense if you think about it
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
dutchfriese
Profile Joined November 2012
2554 Posts
August 05 2015 23:26 GMT
#3180
On August 06 2015 08:25 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 08:24 Loanshark wrote:
This is just my 2k opinion, but both teams had good strategy, it just came down to execution, and split second positioning/decision-making. It's like EHOME yesterday. The Chinese teams seem to have figured out how best to deal with Secret.

People here saying that they let AM freefarm and pissed away the lead...that's not it. They had the rest of iG bottled in the base. The lead is only going to increase. So they wait for Arteezy to be six slotted, instantly go for Roshan, and then try for game-ending mid push. Meanwhile iG figures it out too. They don't try desperation smokes. You don't force fights when Secret has advantage outside the base. They have a line-up that can wombo combo to defend high ground from behind.

Once they held against Arteezy six slot, they can only narrow the lead from there. AM and Gyro has more late game than SF and Storm.

The really big mistake was rtz and s4 diving for the burning kill @ T3 mid. Got them both killed, and game was hard after that.


I agree with that, they should have been focusing on the getting megas.
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