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Alliance vs Cloud 9 game 3 is being played on LAN. As such only the Chinese broadcasters at the event can stream the games. BTS and Starladder has chosen to stop streaming as they could not get the Chinese stream to work smoothly.

Chinese stream: http://www.liquiddota.com/stream/9704
Retvets
Profile Joined April 2013
1781 Posts
October 04 2014 05:23 GMT
#361
LGD messed up. I liked their draft better though
Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
October 04 2014 05:23 GMT
#362
On October 04 2014 14:21 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:19 bagels21 wrote:
lmao at super taking a dump on LGD

remember post TI3 when people were hating on him hard


Honestly super has more often than not been underwhelming compared to his current teammates in the past month. Though I think that speaks to the great performance by everyone else, especially fy and ice3

If anything, Black has been the most underwhelming, not Super
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 05:24 GMT
#363
This is a bit off the wall, but has fy played invoker in mid in any pro games? Seem's like the type of hero he'd be amazing at haha
gLhF.Revere
Profile Joined September 2012
978 Posts
October 04 2014 05:25 GMT
#364
On October 04 2014 14:21 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:19 bagels21 wrote:
lmao at super taking a dump on LGD

remember post TI3 when people were hating on him hard


Honestly super has more often than not been underwhelming compared to his current teammates in the past month. Though I think that speaks to the great performance by everyone else, especially fy and ice3

Compared to Mu and Ferrari, Super is definitely the weakest and least consistent of the top Chinese mids when he's not on his comfort heroes. I would say Super has the most restricted hero pool (e.g. mediocre Brew, Puck, Invoker, Tinker player) but arguably the most reliable carry-based hero pool when he's on point (e.g. Razor/Alch/DK/Storm).

wuhan_clan
Profile Joined April 2012
United States5609 Posts
October 04 2014 05:26 GMT
#365
On October 04 2014 14:24 bo1b wrote:
This is a bit off the wall, but has fy played invoker in mid in any pro games? Seem's like the type of hero he'd be amazing at haha


The only time Fy has played Invoker in a "pro" scenario was at The Summit during the small 1v1 tournament, where he beat Excalibur Invoker vs Invoker.
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
October 04 2014 05:29 GMT
#366
On October 04 2014 14:21 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:19 bagels21 wrote:
lmao at super taking a dump on LGD

remember post TI3 when people were hating on him hard


Honestly super has more often than not been underwhelming compared to his current teammates in the past month. Though I think that speaks to the great performance by everyone else, especially fy and ice3


VG the new DK with nothing but top tier players. Even Black^ looking amazing. I guess what they say is true. When you have based god Fy supporting you everyone looks good.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 05:29 GMT
#367
On October 04 2014 14:26 wuhan_clan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:24 bo1b wrote:
This is a bit off the wall, but has fy played invoker in mid in any pro games? Seem's like the type of hero he'd be amazing at haha


The only time Fy has played Invoker in a "pro" scenario was at The Summit during the small 1v1 tournament, where he beat Excalibur Invoker vs Invoker.

Ah damn. Thanks anyway
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 04 2014 05:31 GMT
#368
On October 04 2014 14:25 gLhF.Revere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:21 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:19 bagels21 wrote:
lmao at super taking a dump on LGD

remember post TI3 when people were hating on him hard


Honestly super has more often than not been underwhelming compared to his current teammates in the past month. Though I think that speaks to the great performance by everyone else, especially fy and ice3

Compared to Mu and Ferrari, Super is definitely the weakest and least consistent of the top Chinese mids when he's not on his comfort heroes. I would say Super has the most restricted hero pool (e.g. mediocre Brew, Puck, Invoker, Tinker player) but arguably the most reliable carry-based hero pool when he's on point (e.g. Razor/Alch/DK/Storm).



I like how you excluded DP from that pool (Super DP vs Alliance never forget). hahahaha
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 05:36 GMT
#369
That last game reminded me so much of se'busca as black, fujiapples as icex3 and chu as fy. So nostalgic my god
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
October 04 2014 05:37 GMT
#370
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 05:38 GMT
#371
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 04 2014 05:39 GMT
#372
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

I hope they eventually break out his Pudge or Axe at some point. He did work with them when he was on CIS.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
October 04 2014 05:39 GMT
#373
On October 04 2014 14:38 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.


there isn't a consensus "best" team at the moment.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
October 04 2014 05:40 GMT
#374
His pudge destroyed DK hahaha
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 05:41 GMT
#375
On October 04 2014 14:39 bagels21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:38 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.


there isn't a consensus "best" team at the moment.

Oh, ok
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
October 04 2014 05:42 GMT
#376
On October 04 2014 14:38 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.

gosugamers ranks EG as the best team ATM:

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings#team
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
October 04 2014 05:44 GMT
#377
On October 04 2014 14:42 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:38 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.

gosugamers ranks EG as the best team ATM:

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings#team

That website is so different to what I remember. Didn't there use to be minerals as a currency or something on gg?

Is gosugamers ranking considered accurate as well?
gLhF.Revere
Profile Joined September 2012
978 Posts
October 04 2014 05:44 GMT
#378
On October 04 2014 14:31 Entropic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:25 gLhF.Revere wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:21 Entropic wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:19 bagels21 wrote:
lmao at super taking a dump on LGD

remember post TI3 when people were hating on him hard


Honestly super has more often than not been underwhelming compared to his current teammates in the past month. Though I think that speaks to the great performance by everyone else, especially fy and ice3

Compared to Mu and Ferrari, Super is definitely the weakest and least consistent of the top Chinese mids when he's not on his comfort heroes. I would say Super has the most restricted hero pool (e.g. mediocre Brew, Puck, Invoker, Tinker player) but arguably the most reliable carry-based hero pool when he's on point (e.g. Razor/Alch/DK/Storm).



I like how you excluded DP from that pool (Super DP vs Alliance never forget). hahahaha

I think Mu plays DP better but Super's DP is better than Ferrari's.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 04 2014 05:49 GMT
#379
On October 04 2014 14:41 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:39 bagels21 wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:38 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.


there isn't a consensus "best" team at the moment.

Oh, ok


I think one can make a strong case for best teams in each region

China - VG
NA - EG
EU - Team Secret
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 04 2014 05:52 GMT
#380
On October 04 2014 14:44 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 14:42 Nymzee wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:38 bo1b wrote:
On October 04 2014 14:37 babysimba wrote:
Super is underwelming compared to his perfomances back then when he was considered the best mid at 1 point. I think he can play many more heroes other than his usual hero pool but i don't know why he can't in actual pro games. Probably some mindset issues or some shit.

Black is like Loda of Alliance. Does what the team wants with his versatile hero pool. To me there's no best player, only best team, except based fy-god.

Is VG considered the best team atm? They're certainly the most fun team to watch atm imo.

gosugamers ranks EG as the best team ATM:

http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings#team

That website is so different to what I remember. Didn't there use to be minerals as a currency or something on gg?

Is gosugamers ranking considered accurate as well?


their ranking is good considering it's almost impossible to accurately rank anyone cross-region unless a lot of international LANs are going on.

EG as #1 makes sense since they beat all of the chinese teams at WEC, but it's been a month and it's a new patch, so there's uncertainty until another international LAN.
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