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lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 03 2014 04:31 GMT
#281
newbee punishing that safelane was what won. banana and rabbit slowed them down so much
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 04:32:31
October 03 2014 04:31 GMT
#282
how to beat C9:

> ban tb, ban visage
> proceed to keep banning ee/aui heroes

lol

On October 03 2014 13:31 lolnoty wrote:
newbee punishing that safelane was what won. banana and rabbit slowed them down so much

the radiance wasnt even that slow, it was kinda quick. it was 18 minutes or so? that's decent.

they lost because they couldnt defend towers vs the early mek + bf. maybe if WR went mek over force it would've been better
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-03 04:32:53
October 03 2014 04:31 GMT
#283
On October 03 2014 13:30 OzVelas wrote:
Awful draft by ee again and again.


Also, when they want to play a naga-centric draft they didn't even ban Enchantress... which Newbee is infamous for and a good enchantress can just wreck the laning stage as we saw here. Also I think vs Newbee, banning or picking heros Rabbit has been killing on (batrider and centaur mostly) is I think key. Rabbit makes so much plays.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
October 03 2014 04:34 GMT
#284
On October 03 2014 13:31 Nymzee wrote:
how to beat C9:

> ban tb, ban visage
> proceed to keep banning ee/aui heroes

lol

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 13:31 lolnoty wrote:
newbee punishing that safelane was what won. banana and rabbit slowed them down so much

the radiance wasnt even that slow, it was kinda quick. it was 18 minutes or so? that's decent.

they lost because they couldnt defend towers vs the early mek + bf. maybe if WR went mek over force it would've been better


I think when you draft naga, you need to have the other 4 create space as much as possible, in both the laning stage with roams and ganks in the midgame, but neither happened
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 03 2014 04:34 GMT
#285
On October 03 2014 13:31 Nymzee wrote:
how to beat C9:

> ban tb, ban visage
> proceed to keep banning ee/aui heroes

lol

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 13:31 lolnoty wrote:
newbee punishing that safelane was what won. banana and rabbit slowed them down so much

the radiance wasnt even that slow, it was kinda quick. it was 18 minutes or so? that's decent.

they lost because they couldnt defend towers vs the early mek + bf. maybe if WR went mek over force it would've been better


It was super slow. It was an 18 minute radiance with no aquila, no bottle, no drums, that he sold his basi for.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 03 2014 04:34 GMT
#286
On October 03 2014 13:31 Nymzee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 13:31 lolnoty wrote:
newbee punishing that safelane was what won. banana and rabbit slowed them down so much

the radiance wasnt even that slow, it was kinda quick. it was 18 minutes or so? that's decent.

they lost because they couldnt defend towers vs the early mek + bf. maybe if WR went mek over force it would've been better


18 minutes is good with Aquila and Drums. Not when you sell your Basi to finish the recipe. The Illusions just die instantly without any kind of stats.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 03 2014 04:35 GMT
#287
On October 03 2014 13:31 Nymzee wrote:
how to beat C9:

> ban tb, ban visage
> proceed to keep banning ee/aui heroes

lol

Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 13:31 lolnoty wrote:
newbee punishing that safelane was what won. banana and rabbit slowed them down so much

the radiance wasnt even that slow, it was kinda quick. it was 18 minutes or so? that's decent.

they lost because they couldnt defend towers vs the early mek + bf. maybe if WR went mek over force it would've been better


18 minutes but it was also completely naked since he sold items to afford it. her CS was well below what a normal safelane gets. I would guess they stopped her from getting 40-50 CS
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
darish
Profile Joined February 2011
United States77 Posts
October 03 2014 04:36 GMT
#288
is the next set of games really in an hour? every tournament has these long breaks and it gets so tedious
Nymzee
Profile Joined June 2013
3929 Posts
October 03 2014 04:38 GMT
#289
... an hour away? really?

jesus christ
apes
Profile Joined October 2011
United States826 Posts
October 03 2014 04:39 GMT
#290
well its nice to see a team get the hint and punish the greed.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
October 03 2014 04:48 GMT
#291
The WCA schedule has been particularly confusing, they have periods with 2 matches on at once (both last night, and later today) and then these huge breaks. I don't really get it.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
blobrus
Profile Joined August 2011
4297 Posts
October 03 2014 04:48 GMT
#292
Basically c9 relies on FATA to be consistent and hoping Aui\EE play well enough to offset bone7\pld feeding.
darish
Profile Joined February 2011
United States77 Posts
October 03 2014 04:51 GMT
#293
c9 needs to reevalute their approach to supporting. It's just a feeding frenzy atm
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 03 2014 04:54 GMT
#294
On October 03 2014 13:48 Heyoka wrote:
The WCA schedule has been particularly confusing, they have periods with 2 matches on at once (both last night, and later today) and then these huge breaks. I don't really get it.

My guess is that they have a limited number of stages and are running more than just a dota tournament.
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Shergal
Profile Joined May 2014
Argentina1191 Posts
October 03 2014 05:00 GMT
#295
c9 not performing well. They managed to abuse TB and Razor to win yesterday, but in all of their games save for the Drow/Visage one they've been bad.
cravin74
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1088 Posts
October 03 2014 05:01 GMT
#296
On October 03 2014 13:38 Nymzee wrote:
... an hour away? really?

jesus christ


I guess they are breaking for lunch?
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 03 2014 05:08 GMT
#297
LD and Fear casting the Vici/Alliance series.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
October 03 2014 05:09 GMT
#298
On October 03 2014 14:08 Daralii wrote:
LD and Fear casting the Vici/Alliance series.

Feeeaaar <3
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
October 03 2014 05:09 GMT
#299
On October 03 2014 13:54 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2014 13:48 Heyoka wrote:
The WCA schedule has been particularly confusing, they have periods with 2 matches on at once (both last night, and later today) and then these huge breaks. I don't really get it.

My guess is that they have a limited number of stages and are running more than just a dota tournament.


The main stage is only one game of Dota a day and the other games are played in some back room with plenty of computers from the pictures I've seen so I don't think that makes sense. I feel it has to do with the TV schedule.
DarkReign_
Profile Joined September 2012
1250 Posts
October 03 2014 05:15 GMT
#300
People hate the infamous chinese farming ear but prefer rat match-up.
People hate deathball push from the chinese in TI4 but prefer greedy draft that encourage more farming.
Chinese scene can't win it seems.
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