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TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
April 13 2013 20:59 GMT
#2321
so the finals will be today anyway?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
April 13 2013 20:59 GMT
#2322
Not announced yet.
Once you Goblak...
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 21:00:34
April 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#2323
yes

im not sure
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 21:01:22
April 13 2013 21:00 GMT
#2324
Finals postponed to thursday.

good decision imo.

also lol Bruno.
WriterXiao8~~
Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
April 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#2325
on thursday? did i hear that right
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
April 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#2326
omg postponed to THURSDAY?

this is ridiculous.
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
April 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#2327
Only decision from what it sounds like.
Never make a hydralisk.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
April 13 2013 21:01 GMT
#2328
On April 14 2013 05:57 teapoted wrote:
Well it's not a bad idea to go after the dark-seer before he can get off his spells, but it seemed to only be like 2 people focusing any target.


Yeah..Either you go all in or don't go on him at all.. he was constantly being targetted by naix+storm combo but the rest were just so far behind that he tanked through their initial burst to get off his spells and just back off.
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
April 13 2013 21:02 GMT
#2329
Thursday wow :O
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 21:05:02
April 13 2013 21:03 GMT
#2330
In my (very amateur) opinion it was a drafting problem. Having a hero that can farm against Dark Seer offlane is fine, but that DS is going to get a mek.. and then you got two supports who basically don't do any damage in the early game (Ogre and Rubick). Then as the laning phase ends, Dignitas might have a bit less farm on their Luna than they wanted to, but they had good levels on all of their heroes, much more overall damage output, better teamfight control with hex/cogs/vacuum surge, and a 250 heal for everyone from the mek. It was clear from the engagement just before Korok's rampage that TL just didn't have enough damage to kill the important heroes on Dignitas. Basically, TL wasn't ever going to win a teamfight unless their Storm/Naix got a pickoff. Which is pretty hard when all 5 of Dignitas' heroes are knocking on your doorstep.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 13 2013 21:06 GMT
#2331
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
givemefive
Profile Joined April 2010
United States300 Posts
April 13 2013 21:06 GMT
#2332
On April 14 2013 06:03 AwfuL_ wrote:
In my (very amateur) opinion it was a drafting problem. Having a hero that can farm against Dark Seer offlane is fine, but that DS is going to get a mek.. and then you got two supports who basically don't do any damage in the early game (Ogre and Rubick). Then as the laning phase ends, Dignitas might have a bit less farm on their Luna than they wanted to, but they had good levels on all of their heroes, much more overall damage output, better teamfight control with hex/cogs/vacuum surge, and a 250 heal for everyone from the mek. It was clear from the engagement just before Korok's rampage that TL just didn't have enough damage to kill the important heroes on Dignitas. Basically, TL wasn't ever going to win a teamfight unless their Storm/Naix got a pickoff. Which is pretty hard when all 5 of Dignitas' heroes are knocking on your doorstep.


If you're gonna leave a ds to free farm then you should be able to draft a trilane that can secure a tower by a gank from mid around the 6 minute mark. ogre and rubick can't push at all so this is just not happening.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-13 21:11:37
April 13 2013 21:08 GMT
#2333
Well, Thursday's a bit long, but a bo5 should be on a separate day. And it will probably result in some more interesting strategies. Maybe gives them some time to do some prep videos or something.

So not the end of the world, the hype's been really deflated today anyway with the delays.
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(
Mouz is a crafty team though, they can beat just about anyone although maybe not consistently. And of course Na'Vi isn't the same as they were before.
Once you Goblak...
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
April 13 2013 21:09 GMT
#2334
On April 14 2013 06:06 crms wrote:
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(


Manhandle is a bit of a strong word...As said before on any given day..The top 6 western Teams can beat each other when on form..That's just how Volatile the Western scene is.
And competing with China..Lol just no...None of the western teams are anywhere close
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
SFC
Profile Joined December 2011
2053 Posts
April 13 2013 21:09 GMT
#2335
On April 14 2013 06:06 crms wrote:
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(


There is no shame losing to Dignitas. They are one of the best teams in the western scene have been so for a very long time and they don't get nearly as much credit as they deserve. Hearing the west vs china arguments gets so old after awhile, we should wait until they meet at lan before we bash the western scene so much.
NeoSlicerZ
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland470 Posts
April 13 2013 21:09 GMT
#2336
TL kinda feels like TI2 mouz...
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
April 13 2013 21:30 GMT
#2337
On April 14 2013 06:06 crms wrote:
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(


Every team is not very good compared to china now
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 13 2013 21:38 GMT
#2338
On April 14 2013 06:30 Teton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 06:06 crms wrote:
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(


Every team is not very good compared to china now

Zenith and Orange don't look too bad. I also think Na'Vi will get in the money at TI3. Around this time last year, Na'Vi wasn't looking very hot either, but the team just has what it takes to do well at big events.
super gg
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
April 13 2013 21:49 GMT
#2339
On April 14 2013 06:38 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2013 06:30 Teton wrote:
On April 14 2013 06:06 crms wrote:
sad day for liquid fan. it finally hit me that they aren't as good as I wish they were. I still love you liquid but I'm sad. I'm not sure how liquid can expect to compete with china if they can't thoroughly manhandle NA. Then again mouz beat na'vi today and it's only a small online cup, but still.. :'(


Every team is not very good compared to china now

Zenith and Orange don't look too bad. I also think Na'Vi will get in the money at TI3. Around this time last year, Na'Vi wasn't looking very hot either, but the team just has what it takes to do well at big events.

That was a different na'vi though. The LAN experience of LoH and AA cannot be understated. I don't know how funnik is going to perform in that situation.
BuLba
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1585 Posts
April 13 2013 21:50 GMT
#2340
it was a bad day and we played poorly in this bo3. happens to everyone.
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