On August 06 2013 16:51 KlaCkoN wrote:
Echoing others in saying that Orange probably have a decent shot at taking down Navi. As has been pointed out several times during prelim casts Navi seems to win games by winning the laning phase and then just compounding on that lead until the opposition break. And well, for all their faults Orange is probably the best laning team in the world, in part due to raw skill but also due to them almost always picking lineups based around extremely strong laning heroes.

Alliance vs LGD should be a lock but I'm unreasonably worried, it's still frigging LGD man ><.
With the resurgence of weaver I have a hunch that both LGD and DK will try and lane Sylar and Burning respectively as weaver vs Bulldog LD, something both of them should be very comfortable with from 6.72 (I think it was..) dota1. Again, alliance should be fine but Im still nervous.

but the thing about navi is that the team is so stacked that theyre the team that can best turn games topsy turvy in mere moments, which is exactly what orange has huge problems with right now. orange has a small chance but navi has to be on their C game

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

August 06 2013 08:16 GMT

#84

In the best event that Orange wins early to midgame they will most likely throw it in the mid to lategame, that also happens when they beat Chinese teams.

Grettin

42381 Posts

August 06 2013 08:18 GMT

#85

TongFu & Navi!!

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Bearded Elder29903 Posts

August 06 2013 08:30 GMT

#86

:D Statsman bruno confirmed Icefrog

tapes

487 Posts

August 06 2013 08:30 GMT

#87

Na'Vi 2 - 0 Orange
Fnatic 2 - 0 TongFu
DK 2 - 1 iG
Alliance 2 - 0 LGD

West gonna dominate. Hontrash shall prevail!

tehplank

977 Posts

August 06 2013 08:30 GMT

#88

Na'Vi > Orange 2-0
Fnatic > TongFu 2-1 (I BELIEVE)
Alliance > LGD.cn 2-1
iG > DK 2-1

Azarkon

United States21060 Posts

August 06 2013 08:31 GMT

#89

No cause for Alliance to fall now. LGD is very stubborn when it comes to sticking to the same strategy and style, and Alliance has come out and said that they think this is a stupid way to play the game and that they're prepared to counter it with greater flexibility. The best shot LGD has is via a prepared pocket strat, but I've not been impressed by LGD's pocket strats in other tournaments. Ultimately, I just don't see what advantage LGD has over Alliance. What LGD is able to do, Alliance is also able to do, but it's not the case the other way around. In every role except for carry, Alliance has greater skill, and that alone ought to be enough to beat LGD.

Na'Vi vs. Orange... You guys simply don't get how Orange chokes on LAN in important matches. Besides which, this is not a year ago when Na'Vi had a skill disadvantage vs. Orange in the middle and carry roles. Orange no longer has an in form Yamateh, nor is Dendi still < Mushi. Na'Vi vs. Orange ought to be a fun series with flashy plays from both sides, but Na'Vi is going to come out on top.

To me, the biggest swing match in the Ro8 is Fnatic vs. TF. Fnatic has looked great but they've also looked less than great. They have a lot of LAN experience and ought to not choke, but in skill they're not ahead of Tongfu. Hell, I think TF has a slight edge in skill on Fnatic, so that it comes down to the draft and how well each team prepares vs. the other.

iG vs. DK is another swing match. iG has greater clutch, while DK has finer form. Clutch vs. form, I go with clutch, but this math is very difficult to call even though DK looks ahead in the group stages.

A day's break gives these teams plenty of time to talk over the prelims and prepare strategies. I think the Ro8 is going to involve a different level of mind games and pocket strats.

KlaCkoN

Sweden1661 Posts

August 06 2013 08:58 GMT

#90

On August 06 2013 17:08 rabidch wrote:

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Yeah you are probably right. We'll see though.

pyro19

6575 Posts

August 06 2013 09:02 GMT

#91

When will the Lower Bracket matches be held? Wanna see if Liquid becomes the First team to be eliminated from TI3

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

August 06 2013 09:08 GMT

#92

On August 06 2013 18:02 pyro19 wrote:
When will the Lower Bracket matches be held? Wanna see if Liquid becomes the First team to be eliminated from TI3

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