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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3321
On August 10 2013 08:45 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:44 Merfyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:43 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:43 Linwelin wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 Grettin wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 babylon wrote:
Want TF to win.

Want Alliance to lose.

Think Na'vi has a better shot against Alliance.

Hmmm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't ask me if I'm a woman.


you and me both. maybe we are both woman.


Can I join the women club?

I don't get it.


Because you are not a woman, or are you?

Nah I totally have a penis.

That doesn't say a whole lot nowadays
juff
Profile Joined March 2011
Singapore4659 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3322
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading] Natus Vincere vs. TongFu [image loading]

The International 2013 Upper Bracket Round 2A Game 1


TONGFU:
(Hao), (Mu), (KingJ), (Banana), (SanSheng)


NATUS VINCERE:
(Xboct), (Dendi), (Funn1k), (Puppey), (KuroKy)


[image loading][image loading][image loading] TOP

MID

BOT [image loading]

WOODS [image loading][image loading]


Mirana farming ancients using QB tactic.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42412 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-09 23:47:02
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3323
On August 10 2013 08:45 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:44 Merfyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:43 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:43 Linwelin wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 Grettin wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 babylon wrote:
Want TF to win.

Want Alliance to lose.

Think Na'vi has a better shot against Alliance.

Hmmm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't ask me if I'm a woman.


you and me both. maybe we are both woman.


Can I join the women club?

I don't get it.


Because you are not a woman, or are you?

So many women in this thread, you don't even know.

The main question is whether or not Asha' is a woman.


plays like a woman. Thats all i know.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3324
On August 10 2013 08:32 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:29 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:27 Drazerk wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:26 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:26 MCDayC wrote:
Guess who's computer got fixed and is now redownloading skype...

OMG YAY :3

Guess who doesn't have a computer and isn't redownloading skype!

way to kill the mood

You know me

when d'you think you'll be back?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3325
On August 10 2013 08:41 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:29 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:28 mnesthes wrote:
Why so many people hate the game out of KotL+PL+Batrider picks from Allinace? If anything then DK should blame themselves for being overconfident and revealing their hand too soon with Spectre FP. Keep in mind that these players play to win, and they will use any legitimate trick they have no matter how frowned upon they might be to achieve it.

I suggest people who are still mad about KotL PL read this: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html



Has nothing to do with playing to win. Has more to do with the fact that E-sports hinges on having viewers, and Kotl/Pl/Batrider comps are completely boring to watch and simply boring.

Now you're talking out of your ass again. The typical casual viewer won't be preoccupied with caring what hero is OP until they have gained some sort of game knowledge. Not to mention Alliance isn't exactly the most boring team in terms of kill quota either (highest average kills in the tourney right now).

As an Avid SC2 (Masters) and LoL (Gold) watcher, who just watched that last game as their first ever DotA2 game, all I got out of it was, "Why doesn't everyone just pick Batrider and win?"

I'm watching a second game now since there's no League to watch this weekend, but so far it mostly it just seems like a fast paced cf to me, and picking Batrider is an instant win. There seems to be no semblance of strategy that I can tell so far. It's really hard for me to tell what's going on in a fight.

Of course, I've also read that most of what decides a DotA game happens in champ select because of the large number of hard counters. So I'm not completely sure. Hoping this game is more entertaining to watch. If you can tell me what to watch for so I know what makes for a good play in this game, I would love to be educated. All I know is the basics of the genre, plus the deny mechanic.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3326
Funn1k on Mirana as well. So good.

GOGO HAO YOU PRETTY LITTLE THANG
Long live the King of Wings
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3327
On August 10 2013 08:45 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:44 eieio wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 Saryph wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:40 eieio wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:40 Xialos wrote:
Why is valve not allowing the other English casters to cast it? (off stage) .......

I asked the same thing yesterday and didn't really get an answer.

I would absolutely love to have the option to listen to BTS during this


Because Valve doesn't want it, the casters don't want to, and it makes no sense at all. If you don't like him so much watch it in client, mute the stream, or just don't watch.

I can't imagine that other casters aren't interested in casting at least some of these games. And I see nothing wrong with letting them cast offstage and giving people more options.

I'm not hating on AC, I still listen to him. But I'd rather listen to BTS.

The main BTS are casting the event. Splitting their team up doesn't make that much sense and wouldn't be nearly as good.

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Right now, I'm not able to listen to LD/Lumi cast this game. I would love to listen to them cast this game. I don't understand how that relates to the main BTS or splitting their team up.

I just want the option to listen to my favorite casters! Just like you'd get two different streams of the finals of a lot of MLG events so you could choose Day[9]/Husky or Tastosis.
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Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3328
On August 10 2013 08:46 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:45 babylon wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:44 Merfyn wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:43 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:43 Linwelin wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 Grettin wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:42 babylon wrote:
Want TF to win.

Want Alliance to lose.

Think Na'vi has a better shot against Alliance.

Hmmm.

+ Show Spoiler +
Don't ask me if I'm a woman.


you and me both. maybe we are both woman.


Can I join the women club?

I don't get it.


Because you are not a woman, or are you?

So many women in this thread, you don't even know.

The main question is whether or not Asha' is a woman.


all i know is that he/she plays like a woman at least.


She is a women
Namunelbo
Profile Joined June 2012
501 Posts
August 09 2013 23:46 GMT
#3329
Too bad RS is out...

Needed more sample of clocks for this TI, now it's only Mu vs Bulba.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3330
On August 10 2013 08:45 blobrus wrote:
So are there any casters considered the gold standard of Dota casting (ala Tastosis)?
No.

There have been polls, and pretty much every 3 month it changes who's most popular. But there's no consensus. They offer different things.
Once you Goblak...
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3331
On August 10 2013 08:46 MCDayC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:32 Drazerk wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 MCDayC wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:27 Drazerk wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:26 KristofferAG wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:26 MCDayC wrote:
Guess who's computer got fixed and is now redownloading skype...

OMG YAY :3

Guess who doesn't have a computer and isn't redownloading skype!

way to kill the mood

You know me

when d'you think you'll be back?

Before HL3
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3332
DENDI!
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3333
And Dendi gets FB
Dear Sixsmith...
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3334
Both teams simultaneously show up in the same lane for first blood. That's amazing.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3335
first blood pudge!
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
August 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#3336
On August 10 2013 08:37 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:25 gOst wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:20 Talron wrote:
Fuck you Alliance. You're only going to make B-gods wrath hit you even harder in the grand finals. Bat, KotL, PL, Furion, Naga. Most antifun lineup there is.


Dem delicious tears

I also disliked LGD last year for playing the same shit again and again and was glad they lost yesterday and also last year, even getting away with that going 14-0. My 2 fav teams alst year were iG and Na´Vi, because both of them didn't go for the "go-to" heroes and actually had some innovation, unlike Alliance. Same shit over and over.
I personally put Na´Vi in my compendium to win the whole thing, because I think it's the most likely. Tho honestly I wish for Burning to win TI3, before he retires, but I don't think it's very likely. Heck honestly I don't care who wins as long as it's not Alliance - simply becuase of Loda already. Their playstyle just makes things worse for me.

NaVi is the one who plays one strat like forever. We all saw what happened to them after Enigma / Lycan / Jugger were banned at TI2 Finals - they lost hard. Alliance have currently the best synergy and understanding of the game, they are the real innovators, not NaVi.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 09 2013 23:48 GMT
#3337
Didn't mirana miss that arrow?
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climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
August 09 2013 23:48 GMT
#3338
On August 10 2013 08:45 blobrus wrote:
So are there any casters considered the gold standard of Dota casting (ala Tastosis)?

Personally, I don't think so.

Some might say BTS (LD + Lumi), while others really enjoy Tobi + 1. I really enjoy Ayesee + Draskyll. So right now, it seems that its all personal preference and there isn't one casting duo that everyone can get behind, at least from what I see.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 09 2013 23:48 GMT
#3339
On August 10 2013 08:46 ArcticFox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 08:41 mnesthes wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:29 superstartran wrote:
On August 10 2013 08:28 mnesthes wrote:
Why so many people hate the game out of KotL+PL+Batrider picks from Allinace? If anything then DK should blame themselves for being overconfident and revealing their hand too soon with Spectre FP. Keep in mind that these players play to win, and they will use any legitimate trick they have no matter how frowned upon they might be to achieve it.

I suggest people who are still mad about KotL PL read this: http://www.sirlin.net/ptw-book/intermediates-guide.html



Has nothing to do with playing to win. Has more to do with the fact that E-sports hinges on having viewers, and Kotl/Pl/Batrider comps are completely boring to watch and simply boring.

Now you're talking out of your ass again. The typical casual viewer won't be preoccupied with caring what hero is OP until they have gained some sort of game knowledge. Not to mention Alliance isn't exactly the most boring team in terms of kill quota either (highest average kills in the tourney right now).

As an Avid SC2 (Masters) and LoL (Gold) watcher, who just watched that last game as their first ever DotA2 game, all I got out of it was, "Why doesn't everyone just pick Batrider and win?"

I'm watching a second game now since there's no League to watch this weekend, but so far it mostly it just seems like a fast paced cf to me, and picking Batrider is an instant win. There seems to be no semblance of strategy that I can tell so far. It's really hard for me to tell what's going on in a fight.

Of course, I've also read that most of what decides a DotA game happens in champ select because of the large number of hard counters. So I'm not completely sure. Hoping this game is more entertaining to watch. If you can tell me what to watch for so I know what makes for a good play in this game, I would love to be educated. All I know is the basics of the genre, plus the deny mechanic.

Batrider has a 100% Pick/Ban rate across every single tournament, but I think at most 53% win rate.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
August 09 2013 23:48 GMT
#3340
On August 10 2013 08:46 Namunelbo wrote:
Too bad RS is out...

Needed more sample of clocks for this TI, now it's only Mu vs Bulba.


and ROTK
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