Look really good, hit a rough patch, then flounder around uselessly for 6 months.
Loosing a series isnt that big a deal. But they didnt even look like they belonged in the same game as Alliance. Or even wanted to be for that matter.
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Look really good, hit a rough patch, then flounder around uselessly for 6 months. Loosing a series isnt that big a deal. But they didnt even look like they belonged in the same game as Alliance. Or even wanted to be for that matter. | ||
Shaella
United States14827 Posts
Liquid didn't even look like they were trying sometimes And seriously whats with drafting TC mirana, they're like 1-10 with it or something | ||
Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:00 AwfuL_ wrote: I think Liquid had the better draft in game 1 but gave the game away by wanking off across the map in packs of two instead of getting shit done with BKB on Gyro and Hex on OD. Equal draft in game 2 which was a game that could've gone either way. Gamble fight for the rosh lost them the game. Shit happens. Game 3 was down to support effectiveness and lanes. Two losing lanes as well as [A] supports outperforming them (though part of that is thanks to random harpy luck). Getting 3-0'ed sucks ass but they played two fairly good games considering this is still the same unpracticed team as the one that went to MLG and Dreamhack and they've switched drafters AND hero picks for the players. Give them some frigging time to get back to practice and find new strats and drafts. These things take time for teams that aren't Na'Vi. Maybe mods should start doing something about people who are way too negative, it just hurts to read that shit every time again and again. It's not like your whining's gonna change shit. People wouldn't be mad if they weren't doing things that obviously are failing over and over. Anyone who watches Liquid knows they have a horrific win rate whenever they put TC on Mirana, and yet they keep doing it even though they must be like 1-10 with it at this point. | ||
AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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Seiuchi
United States931 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:12 AwfuL_ wrote: Well you're both missing the point on the Mirana pick but whatever. TC sat top lane and just got crushed in lane by Alch, he had no impact as far as ganks or creating space went. If TC actually did things with Mirana you could make that argument, but he played it like a 1 and just failed. | ||
sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
Like I said on JD, give the team some time to train, they haven't scrimmed in weeks, and they just switched drafters / picks. They just might be back to beating pretty much everyone except Alliance and Na'Vi soon enough. And just a reminder that TC's last game on Mirana was a 6/0/13 game against Na'Vi. | ||
Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On December 04 2013 06:09 Seiuchi wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2013 06:00 AwfuL_ wrote: I think Liquid had the better draft in game 1 but gave the game away by wanking off across the map in packs of two instead of getting shit done with BKB on Gyro and Hex on OD. Equal draft in game 2 which was a game that could've gone either way. Gamble fight for the rosh lost them the game. Shit happens. Game 3 was down to support effectiveness and lanes. Two losing lanes as well as [A] supports outperforming them (though part of that is thanks to random harpy luck). Getting 3-0'ed sucks ass but they played two fairly good games considering this is still the same unpracticed team as the one that went to MLG and Dreamhack and they've switched drafters AND hero picks for the players. Give them some frigging time to get back to practice and find new strats and drafts. These things take time for teams that aren't Na'Vi. Maybe mods should start doing something about people who are way too negative, it just hurts to read that shit every time again and again. It's not like your whining's gonna change shit. People wouldn't be mad if they weren't doing things that obviously are failing over and over. Anyone who watches Liquid knows they have a horrific win rate whenever they put TC on Mirana, and yet they keep doing it even though they must be like 1-10 with it at this point. they're 4-5 with it now according to tobi's stat guy | ||
sickoota
Canada918 Posts
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BuLba
United States1585 Posts
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Shaella
United States14827 Posts
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
TC still the player with the best music onstream, gy!be ftw | ||
pyro19
6575 Posts
On December 04 2013 09:09 Saechiis wrote: I really don't understand what happened to the TC that consistently topped the CS charts in the time before TI3 and carrying hard whether the game was going well or not. Now he plays shit like Clinkz, Mirana, Viper, completely negating the fact that he's fucking amazing at getting farm. Revolve your game around him, pick a really hard carry and then a team that synergises and can create space for him. Seems like a bit of a case of overthinking things with the strange ways Liquid drafts are going. He still finds farm a lot. Infact that is kinda one of the reasons why people keep hating on TC mirana since he farms a lot on that hero without moving for arrows. Their Mechanics aren't the problem , they lack a real leader in between them that gives out clear calls and objectives.This is evident in games where they win their lanes.They either Split push/Farm for too Long and give the enemy a chance to come back/Get picked off unnecessarily/Let other teams take advantages without taking any trade ( Giving away free Roshans without taking any towers or kills). Right now it seems as if everyone does his own thing once they get into a disadvantage or they are unable to take towers/raxes. | ||
Cjr_boyz
Indonesia9 Posts
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Kirsed
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Australia54784 Posts
On December 04 2013 17:33 kirsed wrote: So Sigma v Na'Vi is today at 20 cet? That's what the official website says but I don't see that anywhere else. you see it on the TL calendar! | ||
Kirsed
9380 Posts
On December 04 2013 19:28 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2013 17:33 kirsed wrote: So Sigma v Na'Vi is today at 20 cet? That's what the official website says but I don't see that anywhere else. you see it on the TL calendar! Ya I'm dumb thanks for your work opterown. | ||
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