EPT[WPC] World E-sports Professional Classic 2014 - Page 189
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
I can see NB and VG but why Na'vi? DK is basically a superior Na'vi. If anyone, I'd see only Alliance in the West would have a chance vs them in a game, let alone a series. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:38 ReignSupreme. wrote: How were the games? I was watching GDShow VODS and forgot ehhhhh | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
Game 2 38 minute game with 56 kills. Make of that what you will. | ||
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:38 ReignSupreme. wrote: How were the games? I was watching GDShow VODS and forgot Game1 was a very well executed starving game with overall low amount of errors and thus low kills from both sides. Not something for everyone. Game2 was pretty much the opposite of Game1. Featured a couple of fresh picks on both sides and was an overall high aggression and high tempo game with good plays on both sides. | ||
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PotatoFury
Philippines705 Posts
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:41 Heyoka wrote: game 2 had an ursa so that was neat I found absolutely nothing different about this Ursa though, as compared to a 6.80 Ursa. Take that as you will. | ||
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:40 Caladbolg wrote: I can see NB and VG but why Na'vi? DK is basically a superior Na'vi. If anyone, I'd see only Alliance in the West would have a chance vs them in a game, let alone a series. PPY magic | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:40 Caladbolg wrote: I can see NB and VG but why Na'vi? DK is basically a superior Na'vi. If anyone, I'd see only Alliance in the West would have a chance vs them in a game, let alone a series. It's Na´Vi. You never count them out. Even if they go 0-12 in groupstages. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:40 Caladbolg wrote: I can see NB and VG but why Na'vi? DK is basically a superior Na'vi. If anyone, I'd see only Alliance in the West would have a chance vs them in a game, let alone a series. NaVi will always have that underdog's chance. Yes, I consider them an underdog team even though they are usually favored in tournaments. But the odds on NaVi are usually based not on NaVi's actual recent performance, but potential to perform. The thing with NaVi is that if you give them enough games, they will eventually figure teams out. So even though they look like garbage right now, they are still scary if they can some how claw into a Bo5 series against DK. On paper, DK can do everything NaVi can do but better but NaVi still has their reputation. NaVi can bomb out of every remaining LAN until TI4 and still be considered one of the most dangerous teams who can upset anyone. NaVi didn't get their reputation by accident and it will take consistent failure from them before they lose that rep. | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:51 wuhan_clan wrote: NaVi will always have that underdog's chance. Yes, I consider them an underdog team even though they are usually favored in tournaments. But the odds on NaVi are usually based not on NaVi's actual recent performance, but potential to perform. The thing with NaVi is that if you give them enough games, they will eventually figure teams out. So even though they look like garbage right now, they are still scary if they can some how claw into a Bo5 series against DK. On paper, DK can do everything NaVi can do but better but NaVi still has their reputation. NaVi can bomb out of every remaining LAN until TI4 and still be considered one of the most dangerous teams who can upset anyone. NaVi didn't get their reputation by accident and it will take consistent failure from them before they lose that rep. I agree about navi. Too many people write them off so easily after poor performances. They are a really good team once they get their rhythm going. Its going to take a massive consistent slump before you should start writing them off. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
It'll be neat to see them eliminated in LB by Empire / Cloud 9 / Fnatic. | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:51 wuhan_clan wrote: NaVi will always have that underdog's chance. Yes, I consider them an underdog team even though they are usually favored in tournaments. But the odds on NaVi are usually based not on NaVi's actualy recent performance, but potential to perform. The thing with NaVi is that if you give them enough games, they will eventually figure teams out. So even though they look like garbage right now, they are still scary if they can some how claw into a Bo5 series against DK. On paper, DK can do everything NaVi can do but better but NaVi still has their reputation. NaVi can bomb out of every remaining LAN until TI4 and still be considered one of the most dangerous teams who can upset anyone. I get that, of course. On reputation alone, they'd be the best contenders. But I think Dota has reached the point that it's gotten extremely hard to bank on that underdog-momentum-mentality, to the point that I think Na'Vi's star is fading away, and the talented, hard working new blood (EG, C9) will soon surpass them, being generally (very loose term here, but Na'Vi has been known to be lazy scrimmers) more hardcore in terms of work ethic. I guess I'll just agree with you all that Na'Vi might have a chance, but I'm not gonna bet on that anymore. Heck, even MVP Phoenix has a chance with QO. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:54 DucK- wrote: People hype about the orb change of Ursa. Its really an insignificant change once you realise that life steal is not an important item for Ursa all this while. In terms of fighting, no, lifesteal isn't so important. Life steal was just a means to solo Roshan. Blink and BKB are still the 2 most important items for him. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On May 02 2014 18:57 wuhan_clan wrote: In terms of fighting, no, lifesteal isn't so important. Life steal was just a means to solo Roshan. Blink and BKB are still the 2 most important items for him. Exactly. The only reason Ursa went Vlad is for roshan. BT everyone blindly builds it. The main item is as you said blink + bkb. Maybe now you could have oov, or satanic over heart late game. But the core items/strengths for him remain the same. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
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juff
Singapore4659 Posts
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