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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 15:12:41
June 24 2014 15:12 GMT
#18061
No he thinks this is the brag thread for beating up on actual noobs
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 15:17:20
June 24 2014 15:16 GMT
#18062
On June 25 2014 00:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
No he thinks this is the brag thread for beating up on actual noobs


Haha, no I'm just curious if he's competitively viable or if it's like spirit breaker where you can kill a bunch of noobs in pubs easily because they don't know how the game works.

It just seems too easy.

EDIT - I'm actually garbage at dota, so I will be the last to brag haha
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
June 24 2014 15:20 GMT
#18063
he needs too many levels to be viable, he only has a 1s guaranteed stun which is really weak, and opposition will play around your ult and either silence you or just run away

he's good in conjunction with other chaos creating heroes where your ult can get by unnoticed, partnered with void he crushes, clockwork, and other types of heroes where you just can't see what the hell is going on so the other team might miss your ult

Positioning is key, as maledict has horrible range and you want to want to stay back to ult without getting stunned while being close enough to hit everyone
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
June 24 2014 15:27 GMT
#18064
On June 25 2014 00:20 KOFgokuon wrote:
he needs too many levels to be viable, he only has a 1s guaranteed stun which is really weak, and opposition will play around your ult and either silence you or just run away

he's good in conjunction with other chaos creating heroes where your ult can get by unnoticed, partnered with void he crushes, clockwork, and other types of heroes where you just can't see what the hell is going on so the other team might miss your ult

Positioning is key, as maledict has horrible range and you want to want to stay back to ult without getting stunned while being close enough to hit everyone


Got it, thanks.

Yeah E has horrible range (though getting kills with it is pretty funny). I played a few games yesterday with 4 friends running a pretty stun-heavy team so it was pretty easy to do terrible terrible damage with the ult, but I can see what you mean.

Which heroes would you recommend with Witch Doctor? Faceless is obvious, any others?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
June 24 2014 15:57 GMT
#18065
Guaranteed stuns are wonderful. Sven/wd is really strong, You can set up the maledict really well, plus follow up with cast, warcry to chase, and sven does huge damage as well
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 24 2014 15:58 GMT
#18066
One of WD's biggest strengths is that he's a very powerful hero for aggressive trilanes, particularly when trilaning against a Chen/Enchan jungle.
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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 16:00:11
June 24 2014 15:59 GMT
#18067
EG plays quite a lot of Witch Doctor actually. Liquid played him quite a bit in the TI4 NA qualifiers also.
iirc pros usually go 4-4-0 because the heal is sick good in trilanes, while in pubs 4-1-4 is probably better.
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 24 2014 16:47 GMT
#18068
wd aint that bad and with void being so popular i wouldnt be surprised if it gets picked more.

dont underestimate the power of space cow, inc hanni mids with him at TI4. too bad hes not as imba as rampage, hanni played that hero so much in hon.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 24 2014 16:47 GMT
#18069
Hanni support player now
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 17:33:13
June 24 2014 17:29 GMT
#18070
What about solo safe lane WD?

I apologize if that sounds retarded because I'm pretty low level. But it seemed okay in this pub game I played yesterday. His basic attack is good and you can always stun and run away if you need to.

Or am I just asking to get ganked?
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 18:44:31
June 24 2014 18:27 GMT
#18071
On June 25 2014 01:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hanni support player now


Hanni ES legit makes my ovaries throb, as does Fly Skywrath.

On June 25 2014 02:29 DinoMight wrote:
What about solo safe lane WD?

I apologize if that sounds retarded because I'm pretty low level. But it seemed okay in this pub game I played yesterday. His basic attack is good and you can always stun and run away if you need to.

Or am I just asking to get ganked?


basically think about it this way. You want to give your most farm to the hero that will use it to it's best - CONSISTENTLY AND RELIABLY. That's the number one thing a carry has to do, be reliable.

With WD you need:

1)Aghs to do the damage
2)BKB against stuns, and even then there are plenty of heroes with ults that go through bkb
3)Something to keep the enemy team stuck so that they can't just walk away from you, like Chronosphere or Treant's ulti
4) possibly Blink to get in position

WD carry can work...but it's not reliable enough, you're going for MLG plays. It's like going with a carry Lich, sure his ult theoratically does infinite damage but when it comes down to it it's nowhere near reliable enough for him to be a carry.

Compare it to a hero like Faceless Void or Sven, that all they need is a Mask of Madness and they're ready to game. Also much more reliable.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 24 2014 19:56 GMT
#18072
On June 24 2014 21:27 KOFgokuon wrote:
If you have mana when you hit level 6 the od did something wrong

However with levels in nether toxin you should have great farm

No, cuz with this skill build he can't attack you, so he can't go up your hill. Meaning you can last hit safely while waiting for your manapool to come back, then you go for the kill.
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 24 2014 22:20 GMT
#18073
Is QoP ever played as an offlaner? If not, why?

I recently switched from HoN to Dota 2, and in HoN, the equivalent of QoP is often played as an offlaner. I see no reason why she could no do that in Dota 2 as well.

She can blink into trees to hide and leech xp, and that's really all she needs. Once she hits 6, she can move to gank with her ult. I'm thinking about trying it out in MM.

Any ideas?
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-25 00:02:38
June 24 2014 23:05 GMT
#18074
On June 25 2014 07:20 Spaylz wrote:
Is QoP ever played as an offlaner? If not, why?

I recently switched from HoN to Dota 2, and in HoN, the equivalent of QoP is often played as an offlaner. I see no reason why she could no do that in Dota 2 as well.

She can blink into trees to hide and leech xp, and that's really all she needs. Once she hits 6, she can move to gank with her ult. I'm thinking about trying it out in MM.

Any ideas?

Its probably more about her problems to contribute after laning if she isnt ahead. All spells except ulti requires her to be quite in the middle of things, and she isnt exactly inherently tanky. So unless you are ahead you risk either having to be very careful with your positioning or you just risk dying if you try to use Q/E being in the middle of things.

Without being much of a QoP-player thats what I'd guess anyway.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 25 2014 01:41 GMT
#18075
On June 24 2014 16:05 hooahah wrote:
Alright, simple question - I played Viper vs OD mid and I got fucking smashed (had 11 cs 5 minutes in). Bad matchup or did I just get outplayed?

Outplayed unless it was random gold vs no random gold. Matchup depends a lot on where you can freeze the lane early tho
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KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14911 Posts
June 25 2014 03:25 GMT
#18076
On June 25 2014 07:20 Spaylz wrote:
Is QoP ever played as an offlaner? If not, why?

I recently switched from HoN to Dota 2, and in HoN, the equivalent of QoP is often played as an offlaner. I see no reason why she could no do that in Dota 2 as well.

She can blink into trees to hide and leech xp, and that's really all she needs. Once she hits 6, she can move to gank with her ult. I'm thinking about trying it out in MM.

Any ideas?


in past HoN metas there were way more dual lane mids and junglers, you would often get 1v1 matchups in the long lane so in that scenario wretched hag long lane was much more viable
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 25 2014 03:48 GMT
#18077
Don't underestimate a level 4 heal by WD at 7, that shit can win early team fights and can help sustain in taking down towers.
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Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
June 25 2014 13:14 GMT
#18078
What do you do mid versus a gyro that just spams the homing missle at you, especially as a non bottle user? I can't really kill it before it hits me, and it's just a ton of reliable damage. Maybe I should be trying to kill him when the CD is off? It's really annoying; I miss CS at the same time as taking a good chunk of damage. I just played a game where my midas was like 9 mins because I missed so much CS and had to buy a second stack of tangoes; Do i just have to deal with this, or is there something I can do to fight this?
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Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
June 25 2014 13:15 GMT
#18079
What hero were you playing as?
I like words.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
June 25 2014 13:17 GMT
#18080
Hey all,

What do you do about Bristleback at lvl 25 when he just won't die? My team was up something like 20 kills all game but at the end we just couldn't kill him. I was Witch Doctor and I saw him just take almost my whole Dubstep to the face without dying.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
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