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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On June 25 2014 00:12 Sn0_Man wrote: No he thinks this is the brag thread for beating up on actual noobs Haha, no I'm just curious if he's competitively viable or if it's like spirit breaker where you can kill a bunch of noobs in pubs easily because they don't know how the game works. It just seems too easy. EDIT - I'm actually garbage at dota, so I will be the last to brag haha  | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
he's good in conjunction with other chaos creating heroes where your ult can get by unnoticed, partnered with void he crushes, clockwork, and other types of heroes where you just can't see what the hell is going on so the other team might miss your ult Positioning is key, as maledict has horrible range and you want to want to stay back to ult without getting stunned while being close enough to hit everyone | ||
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
On June 25 2014 00:20 KOFgokuon wrote: he needs too many levels to be viable, he only has a 1s guaranteed stun which is really weak, and opposition will play around your ult and either silence you or just run away he's good in conjunction with other chaos creating heroes where your ult can get by unnoticed, partnered with void he crushes, clockwork, and other types of heroes where you just can't see what the hell is going on so the other team might miss your ult Positioning is key, as maledict has horrible range and you want to want to stay back to ult without getting stunned while being close enough to hit everyone Got it, thanks. Yeah E has horrible range (though getting kills with it is pretty funny). I played a few games yesterday with 4 friends running a pretty stun-heavy team so it was pretty easy to do terrible terrible damage with the ult, but I can see what you mean. Which heroes would you recommend with Witch Doctor? Faceless is obvious, any others? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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BobMcJohnson
France2916 Posts
iirc pros usually go 4-4-0 because the heal is sick good in trilanes, while in pubs 4-1-4 is probably better. | ||
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
dont underestimate the power of space cow, inc hanni mids with him at TI4. too bad hes not as imba as rampage, hanni played that hero so much in hon. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
I apologize if that sounds retarded because I'm pretty low level. But it seemed okay in this pub game I played yesterday. His basic attack is good and you can always stun and run away if you need to. Or am I just asking to get ganked? | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
On June 25 2014 01:47 Sn0_Man wrote: Hanni support player now Hanni ES legit makes my ovaries throb, as does Fly Skywrath. On June 25 2014 02:29 DinoMight wrote: What about solo safe lane WD? I apologize if that sounds retarded because I'm pretty low level. But it seemed okay in this pub game I played yesterday. His basic attack is good and you can always stun and run away if you need to. Or am I just asking to get ganked? basically think about it this way. You want to give your most farm to the hero that will use it to it's best - CONSISTENTLY AND RELIABLY. That's the number one thing a carry has to do, be reliable. With WD you need: 1)Aghs to do the damage 2)BKB against stuns, and even then there are plenty of heroes with ults that go through bkb 3)Something to keep the enemy team stuck so that they can't just walk away from you, like Chronosphere or Treant's ulti 4) possibly Blink to get in position WD carry can work...but it's not reliable enough, you're going for MLG plays. It's like going with a carry Lich, sure his ult theoratically does infinite damage but when it comes down to it it's nowhere near reliable enough for him to be a carry. Compare it to a hero like Faceless Void or Sven, that all they need is a Mask of Madness and they're ready to game. Also much more reliable. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 24 2014 21:27 KOFgokuon wrote: If you have mana when you hit level 6 the od did something wrong However with levels in nether toxin you should have great farm No, cuz with this skill build he can't attack you, so he can't go up your hill. Meaning you can last hit safely while waiting for your manapool to come back, then you go for the kill. | ||
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
I recently switched from HoN to Dota 2, and in HoN, the equivalent of QoP is often played as an offlaner. I see no reason why she could no do that in Dota 2 as well. She can blink into trees to hide and leech xp, and that's really all she needs. Once she hits 6, she can move to gank with her ult. I'm thinking about trying it out in MM. Any ideas? | ||
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:20 Spaylz wrote: Is QoP ever played as an offlaner? If not, why? I recently switched from HoN to Dota 2, and in HoN, the equivalent of QoP is often played as an offlaner. I see no reason why she could no do that in Dota 2 as well. She can blink into trees to hide and leech xp, and that's really all she needs. Once she hits 6, she can move to gank with her ult. I'm thinking about trying it out in MM. Any ideas? Its probably more about her problems to contribute after laning if she isnt ahead. All spells except ulti requires her to be quite in the middle of things, and she isnt exactly inherently tanky. So unless you are ahead you risk either having to be very careful with your positioning or you just risk dying if you try to use Q/E being in the middle of things. Without being much of a QoP-player thats what I'd guess anyway. | ||
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
On June 24 2014 16:05 hooahah wrote: Alright, simple question - I played Viper vs OD mid and I got fucking smashed (had 11 cs 5 minutes in). Bad matchup or did I just get outplayed? Outplayed unless it was random gold vs no random gold. Matchup depends a lot on where you can freeze the lane early tho | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14912 Posts
On June 25 2014 07:20 Spaylz wrote: Is QoP ever played as an offlaner? If not, why? I recently switched from HoN to Dota 2, and in HoN, the equivalent of QoP is often played as an offlaner. I see no reason why she could no do that in Dota 2 as well. She can blink into trees to hide and leech xp, and that's really all she needs. Once she hits 6, she can move to gank with her ult. I'm thinking about trying it out in MM. Any ideas? in past HoN metas there were way more dual lane mids and junglers, you would often get 1v1 matchups in the long lane so in that scenario wretched hag long lane was much more viable | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
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Spaylz
Japan1743 Posts
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DinoMight
United States3725 Posts
What do you do about Bristleback at lvl 25 when he just won't die? My team was up something like 20 kills all game but at the end we just couldn't kill him. I was Witch Doctor and I saw him just take almost my whole Dubstep to the face without dying. | ||
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