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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
November 19 2013 23:18 GMT
#13801
If the early game isn't good to you then radiance is a poor choice (as really is spectre lol but its a pub)
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 19 2013 23:28 GMT
#13802
i think phase vg is a lot more reliable than phase drums if you're going radi
it's a little weaker in teamfights but it makes you noticably tankier and the regen lets you farm comfortably in lane

depends on the game but a lot of the time even a 25~30 minute radi is enough to turn teamfights if you can keep from getting raxed
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
November 20 2013 00:14 GMT
#13803
On November 20 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Items are NOT shareable. "exceptions" below. You can never sell an item you do not own. Period.

Tangoes can be shared by using a tango you own on an ally. That person recieves in their inventory a 1-charge tango. You lose a charge on your tangoes.

Bottles can be given to an ally to use. That person has full use of the bottle. Runes bottled by a player can only be used by that player, but the rest of the charges are completely shareable. That is the only restriction (apart from sale of course).

Healing potions and Clarity (mana) potions can be shared by using them on allies. Full functionality.

Gems are fully shareable, anybody with a gem in their inventory benefits from the gem (exception: couriers). They also obviously drop on death.

Wards (sentry and observer) are fully shareable. As are dust and smoke. Note that wards/dust/smoke owned by different people will not stack in inventories.

Rapiers drop on death. I'm not too clear on the sharing mechanics here but I believe for a person to benefit from a rapier that they do not own, the enemy must have held that rapier at some point.


Also, TP scrolls are fully shareable.
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
November 20 2013 01:00 GMT
#13804
Is there some kind of multi-unit targeting micro that allows you to pick the real heroes out of illusions? I've had it happen quite a few times where I'll be playing naga/PL/manta hero, and as soon as I run into a fight, the real hero gets targeted first, whereas I have to play whack-a-mole with the PLs until I find one that doesn't die in 2 hits.

In this case I was CK vs Lifestealer and on 4 seperate occasions I ulted, ran in, and he immediately gunned down the real CK. I can't be that unlucky, right?
We CAN have nice things
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 20 2013 01:04 GMT
#13805
if you target the real enemy before they use their illusion ability, your targeting is preserved after the split. This is a known DotA 2 only bug.

That said, there are a couple ways people discern illusions without necessarily attacking them. The most pronounced is that because illusions don't benefit from flat +AS (only from agility or Endurance-based auras), if the real hero and the illusion attack at the same time, the real hero's second attack will come faster if they have any flat +AS (e.g. Treads).
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 20 2013 01:14 GMT
#13806
wow didn't know about that. thanks TY!

but it's still hard to determine especially if your panicking, gonna get used to it
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
November 20 2013 02:00 GMT
#13807
Picking the right one out of illusions is not straight up guessing, it is educated guessing.
People will sometimes control their heroes slightly different than the illusions. Also putting the hero in front is something only the ballsiest(and most of the time frequently dying) of people do. So it is very likely that the hero is second or more from the front.

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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 20 2013 02:45 GMT
#13808
What are the records for the fastest time to complete certain items like Radiance, Linkens, etc? Only pro games considered.

I can't seem to find a record of these over at the internet.
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 02:50:17
November 20 2013 02:49 GMT
#13809
have you tried bruno's site? i forgot what i was called D: dotaacademy or something.

edit: i think it was datdota. im not sure, haven't visited it yet but i heard its full of stats
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 20 2013 02:57 GMT
#13810
datdota does have item records.
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
November 20 2013 03:55 GMT
#13811
Wow awesome site. Thanks!
"If i lost an arm, I would play w3." -IntoTheWow || "Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk cafe. He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
November 20 2013 05:19 GMT
#13812
On November 20 2013 09:14 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Items are NOT shareable. "exceptions" below. You can never sell an item you do not own. Period.

Tangoes can be shared by using a tango you own on an ally. That person recieves in their inventory a 1-charge tango. You lose a charge on your tangoes.

Bottles can be given to an ally to use. That person has full use of the bottle. Runes bottled by a player can only be used by that player, but the rest of the charges are completely shareable. That is the only restriction (apart from sale of course).

Healing potions and Clarity (mana) potions can be shared by using them on allies. Full functionality.

Gems are fully shareable, anybody with a gem in their inventory benefits from the gem (exception: couriers). They also obviously drop on death.

Wards (sentry and observer) are fully shareable. As are dust and smoke. Note that wards/dust/smoke owned by different people will not stack in inventories.

Rapiers drop on death. I'm not too clear on the sharing mechanics here but I believe for a person to benefit from a rapier that they do not own, the enemy must have held that rapier at some point.


Also, TP scrolls are fully shareable.

And Rings of Regen and Sage Masks.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
November 20 2013 09:14 GMT
#13813
What about the new tranquils?
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
November 20 2013 09:15 GMT
#13814
boots were never share-able i think so i dont see why tranqs should be an exception
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Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
November 20 2013 09:31 GMT
#13815
On November 20 2013 18:15 icystorage wrote:
boots were never share-able i think so i dont see why tranqs should be an exception

In theory you can share regen items, is it possible to share only the regen part?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 20 2013 10:08 GMT
#13816
On November 20 2013 18:14 Belisarius wrote:
What about the new tranquils?

Only BASIC regen items (RoR, RoH, Mask, Void) and Perseverance are share-able. Combined ones other than Perseverance are not.
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10734
Profile Joined September 2012
340 Posts
November 20 2013 15:07 GMT
#13817
Someone told me to level Clinkz' first skill over his invis, as long as I had 1-2 points in it. Whats your opinion on that? I never level Q early because I never don't really have the mana to use the skill and the arrows, and once I get orchid I've got at least 1-2 points in it which is enough for solo kills.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 20 2013 16:10 GMT
#13818
On November 20 2013 14:19 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 09:14 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
On November 20 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Items are NOT shareable. "exceptions" below. You can never sell an item you do not own. Period.

Tangoes can be shared by using a tango you own on an ally. That person recieves in their inventory a 1-charge tango. You lose a charge on your tangoes.

Bottles can be given to an ally to use. That person has full use of the bottle. Runes bottled by a player can only be used by that player, but the rest of the charges are completely shareable. That is the only restriction (apart from sale of course).

Healing potions and Clarity (mana) potions can be shared by using them on allies. Full functionality.

Gems are fully shareable, anybody with a gem in their inventory benefits from the gem (exception: couriers). They also obviously drop on death.

Wards (sentry and observer) are fully shareable. As are dust and smoke. Note that wards/dust/smoke owned by different people will not stack in inventories.

Rapiers drop on death. I'm not too clear on the sharing mechanics here but I believe for a person to benefit from a rapier that they do not own, the enemy must have held that rapier at some point.


Also, TP scrolls are fully shareable.

And Rings of Regen and Sage Masks.


Wait.................................... what?
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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 16:12:05
November 20 2013 16:10 GMT
#13819
On November 21 2013 00:07 10734 wrote:
Someone told me to level Clinkz' first skill over his invis, as long as I had 1-2 points in it. Whats your opinion on that? I never level Q early because I never don't really have the mana to use the skill and the arrows, and once I get orchid I've got at least 1-2 points in it which is enough for solo kills.


As in skip skeleton walk...? I'm not quite sure about that. But I certainly would max strafe over skeleton walk after searing arrows. Even without orchid, you can still pull off solo kills against squishies by popping out of invis with strafe right next to them. And when you do get your orchid, having 4 points in strafe really helps you get those pick offs on most heroes.

On November 21 2013 01:10 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 14:19 Nightmarjoo wrote:
On November 20 2013 09:14 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
On November 20 2013 06:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Items are NOT shareable. "exceptions" below. You can never sell an item you do not own. Period.

Tangoes can be shared by using a tango you own on an ally. That person recieves in their inventory a 1-charge tango. You lose a charge on your tangoes.

Bottles can be given to an ally to use. That person has full use of the bottle. Runes bottled by a player can only be used by that player, but the rest of the charges are completely shareable. That is the only restriction (apart from sale of course).

Healing potions and Clarity (mana) potions can be shared by using them on allies. Full functionality.

Gems are fully shareable, anybody with a gem in their inventory benefits from the gem (exception: couriers). They also obviously drop on death.

Wards (sentry and observer) are fully shareable. As are dust and smoke. Note that wards/dust/smoke owned by different people will not stack in inventories.

Rapiers drop on death. I'm not too clear on the sharing mechanics here but I believe for a person to benefit from a rapier that they do not own, the enemy must have held that rapier at some point.


Also, TP scrolls are fully shareable.

And Rings of Regen and Sage Masks.


Wait.................................... what?


Yango already mentioned that. They're not fully shareable. Only the regen components of them are. Ie. you can pass your RoH to your ally to help them regen in lane, but they won't be able to do anything with it other than hold it in their inventory.
HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
November 20 2013 16:15 GMT
#13820
On November 21 2013 01:10 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote:
Yango already mentioned that. They're not fully shareable. Only the regen components of them are. Ie. you can pass your RoH to your ally to help them regen in lane, but they won't be able to do anything with it other than hold it in their inventory.


Oh right right, for a split second I was envisioning some bizarre 0:00 Soul Ring rush through pooling regen items.
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