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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
June 22 2013 19:47 GMT
#9821
Does Orchid of Malevolence do it's own individual instances/ticks of damage? I was killed yesterday after being silenced screamed by a QoP and as I was running away and presumably safe I took 200 damage and the kill screen showed the orchid icon beside the damage.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 22 2013 19:51 GMT
#9822
Orchid deals 30% of the damage dealt during the silence when it ends as magical damage.

This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 22 2013 19:52 GMT
#9823
You receive 30% of the damage you took while silenced at the END of the Orchid duration on you.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
June 22 2013 22:44 GMT
#9824
This thread is awesome thank you guys for that and for the previous questioned answered.
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
June 23 2013 05:22 GMT
#9825
Can you send your flying courier within shop range of the enemy fountain and buy their observer wards / gem / smoke?
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 23 2013 05:30 GMT
#9826
On June 23 2013 14:22 Staboteur wrote:
Can you send your flying courier within shop range of the enemy fountain and buy their observer wards / gem / smoke?

No ! Was fixed a while ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10666 Posts
June 23 2013 06:00 GMT
#9827
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.
Skol
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
June 23 2013 06:03 GMT
#9828
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
June 23 2013 06:48 GMT
#9829
On June 23 2013 14:30 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 14:22 Staboteur wrote:
Can you send your flying courier within shop range of the enemy fountain and buy their observer wards / gem / smoke?

No ! Was fixed a while ago


Good to know.

What are the mechanics behind the damage dealt in denying? I've noticed it doesn't apply certain things (doesn't seem to apply Luna's aura, doesn't apply quelling blade) but I'm not sure what damages it does/doesn't include. Anyone know?
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 07:20:08
June 23 2013 07:19 GMT
#9830
On June 23 2013 15:03 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^


It's to do with the number of targets around them, right? They don't ever cast abilities if you're solo jungling (thank goodness), but if you pull or have a chen troll that summons too many skeletons, they seem to.

What's the actual metric? And is it still random or do they cast them asap if there's enough units?
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
June 23 2013 07:51 GMT
#9831
On June 23 2013 16:19 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 15:03 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^


It's to do with the number of targets around them, right? They don't ever cast abilities if you're solo jungling (thank goodness), but if you pull or have a chen troll that summons too many skeletons, they seem to.

What's the actual metric? And is it still random or do they cast them asap if there's enough units?

Asap if there are enough units, pretty sure it is 3 in their range for everything (ursa/centaur/satyr) but for satyrs they will blast if there are 2 close together and the 3rd is way off to the side somewhere. Trolls will sometimes not spawn their little bros for some reason, if anyone has insight into why they do that that would be cool to know. I think those are the only ones that cast spells on you... but they still have to use their cast points ^^
SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
June 23 2013 07:58 GMT
#9832
What's the best way to learn to support in a trilane? It's hard enough finding people to play with who aren't drooling morons; let alone finding people who can teach a trilane.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-23 08:10:02
June 23 2013 08:08 GMT
#9833
On June 23 2013 16:51 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 16:19 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:03 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^


It's to do with the number of targets around them, right? They don't ever cast abilities if you're solo jungling (thank goodness), but if you pull or have a chen troll that summons too many skeletons, they seem to.

What's the actual metric? And is it still random or do they cast them asap if there's enough units?

Asap if there are enough units, pretty sure it is 3 in their range for everything (ursa/centaur/satyr) but for satyrs they will blast if there are 2 close together and the 3rd is way off to the side somewhere. Trolls will sometimes not spawn their little bros for some reason, if anyone has insight into why they do that that would be cool to know. I think those are the only ones that cast spells on you... but they still have to use their cast points ^^

Neutrals don't use their cast points in DotA 2 when using abilities.

The answer as to why is probably that Valve hard-coded it and never got around to fixing it yet because it's not high priority.

On June 23 2013 16:58 SXGCoil wrote:
What's the best way to learn to support in a trilane? It's hard enough finding people to play with who aren't drooling morons; let alone finding people who can teach a trilane.

Arranged games.

Trilaning in pubs is pretty much a gamble on whether your carry player is even good enough at the game to be worth freefarming. Nobody wants to put all their chance of winning on a random like that, so they don't do it in pubs.
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SXGCoil
Profile Joined February 2012
United States341 Posts
June 23 2013 08:17 GMT
#9834
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 16:58 SXGCoil wrote:
What's the best way to learn to support in a trilane? It's hard enough finding people to play with who aren't drooling morons; let alone finding people who can teach a trilane.

Arranged games.

Trilaning in pubs is pretty much a gamble on whether your carry player is even good enough at the game to be worth freefarming. Nobody wants to put all their chance of winning on a random like that, so they don't do it in pubs.

So like TLIH? Or should I try playing in IXDL?
packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
June 23 2013 08:42 GMT
#9835
On June 23 2013 17:17 SXGCoil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 16:58 SXGCoil wrote:
What's the best way to learn to support in a trilane? It's hard enough finding people to play with who aren't drooling morons; let alone finding people who can teach a trilane.

Arranged games.

Trilaning in pubs is pretty much a gamble on whether your carry player is even good enough at the game to be worth freefarming. Nobody wants to put all their chance of winning on a random like that, so they don't do it in pubs.

So like TLIH? Or should I try playing in IXDL?


Tlih is pretty good for learning how to trilane
dreaming of a sunny day
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
June 23 2013 08:42 GMT
#9836
On June 23 2013 17:08 TheYango wrote:
Neutrals don't use their cast points in DotA 2 when using abilities.

okay then, don't listen to me =) this is what I get for posting without confirming something I'm not sure about tt
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
June 23 2013 08:56 GMT
#9837
On June 23 2013 16:51 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 16:19 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:03 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^


It's to do with the number of targets around them, right? They don't ever cast abilities if you're solo jungling (thank goodness), but if you pull or have a chen troll that summons too many skeletons, they seem to.

What's the actual metric? And is it still random or do they cast them asap if there's enough units?

Asap if there are enough units, pretty sure it is 3 in their range for everything (ursa/centaur/satyr) but for satyrs they will blast if there are 2 close together and the 3rd is way off to the side somewhere. Trolls will sometimes not spawn their little bros for some reason, if anyone has insight into why they do that that would be cool to know. I think those are the only ones that cast spells on you... but they still have to use their cast points ^^


Does anybody know exactly why/when he spawns the little zombies? Can make a huge difference. To me it seems like if he's standing still makes a difference and also whether or not he has to change targets.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
June 23 2013 10:55 GMT
#9838
On June 23 2013 17:56 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 16:51 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 16:19 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:03 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^


It's to do with the number of targets around them, right? They don't ever cast abilities if you're solo jungling (thank goodness), but if you pull or have a chen troll that summons too many skeletons, they seem to.

What's the actual metric? And is it still random or do they cast them asap if there's enough units?

Asap if there are enough units, pretty sure it is 3 in their range for everything (ursa/centaur/satyr) but for satyrs they will blast if there are 2 close together and the 3rd is way off to the side somewhere. Trolls will sometimes not spawn their little bros for some reason, if anyone has insight into why they do that that would be cool to know. I think those are the only ones that cast spells on you... but they still have to use their cast points ^^


Does anybody know exactly why/when he spawns the little zombies? Can make a huge difference. To me it seems like if he's standing still makes a difference and also whether or not he has to change targets.


Sure it's not just the ability's cooldown? I don't recall ever seeing him not zombify at least one of his buddies.
Slithe
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States985 Posts
June 23 2013 11:08 GMT
#9839
If I'm playing puck vs batrider, how should I approach the matchup? Do I just have to play super conservative the whole time? I tried dodging napalms with phase but it seems really hard to do.
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
June 23 2013 11:15 GMT
#9840
Why not Void get picked in pro games? He is maybe the hardest carry in the game and he needs simple items, he can dodge spells and attacks, he has escape spell, he has an ulti that disables area, a spell that bashes ppl.
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