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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 24 2013 02:44 GMT
#9861
On June 24 2013 04:44 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 19:55 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2013 17:56 randombum wrote:
On June 23 2013 16:51 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 16:19 Belisarius wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:03 Cyx. wrote:
On June 23 2013 15:00 Emnjay808 wrote:
Why do neutrals insta-cast spells on you. But when you dominate or charm one they have to cast animate their abilities.

I don't think this is actually true ^^


It's to do with the number of targets around them, right? They don't ever cast abilities if you're solo jungling (thank goodness), but if you pull or have a chen troll that summons too many skeletons, they seem to.

What's the actual metric? And is it still random or do they cast them asap if there's enough units?

Asap if there are enough units, pretty sure it is 3 in their range for everything (ursa/centaur/satyr) but for satyrs they will blast if there are 2 close together and the 3rd is way off to the side somewhere. Trolls will sometimes not spawn their little bros for some reason, if anyone has insight into why they do that that would be cool to know. I think those are the only ones that cast spells on you... but they still have to use their cast points ^^


Does anybody know exactly why/when he spawns the little zombies? Can make a huge difference. To me it seems like if he's standing still makes a difference and also whether or not he has to change targets.


Sure it's not just the ability's cooldown? I don't recall ever seeing him not zombify at least one of his buddies.

Almost certain, again haven't really tested this but I'm pretty damn sure there have been times I've been jungling Enigma or Furion and killed off the little ones only to not have my extra free CS spawn ^^

It happens the most when you kill a creep with an item or a spell, it will always spawn if you kill it with autoattacks
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
June 24 2013 04:33 GMT
#9862
I've killed them with autos and no undead.

Unless furion is tping into my jungle, summoning treants, waiting for them to die, killing the now spawned skeletons, then tping away just to troll me, its bugged game plz fix blizzfraud
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
IAmThEnd
Profile Joined April 2013
United States111 Posts
June 24 2013 05:02 GMT
#9863
As a relatively new player, should I buy keys for chests? I have alot of them and don't know if it's worth investing in keys or not.
I am unimpressed. I am ungrateful. I am a leech, a parasite. I am a vampire.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 24 2013 05:03 GMT
#9864
Oh do not do so. Items in chests aren't worth opening... Best to just trade for things.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 24 2013 06:35 GMT
#9865
On June 24 2013 14:02 IAmThEnd wrote:
As a relatively new player, should I buy keys for chests? I have alot of them and don't know if it's worth investing in keys or not.

Depends on how much you care to spend. You pretty much pay 2-3 dollars for one cosmetic item, which might not even be rare (I think, this depends on chest obviously). At the same time, you usually have a chance to get some pretty nice items (huds etc).

Personally, I'm cheap as hell and can't bring myself to pay for cosmetics, so I just ignore the chests.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
June 24 2013 07:55 GMT
#9866
On June 24 2013 14:02 IAmThEnd wrote:
As a relatively new player, should I buy keys for chests? I have alot of them and don't know if it's worth investing in keys or not.

It's all cosmetics.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 24 2013 12:08 GMT
#9867
Since S&Y isn't an UAM since forever i've been wondering, does it stack with itself with diminishing returns?
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
June 24 2013 12:25 GMT
#9868
On June 23 2013 04:52 Slardar wrote:
You receive 30% of the damage you took while silenced at the END of the Orchid duration on you.


Is this pure damage? Or magical?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 24 2013 12:26 GMT
#9869
magical, so reduced by magic resist.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
June 24 2013 12:27 GMT
#9870
On June 23 2013 15:48 Staboteur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2013 14:30 Erasme wrote:
On June 23 2013 14:22 Staboteur wrote:
Can you send your flying courier within shop range of the enemy fountain and buy their observer wards / gem / smoke?

No ! Was fixed a while ago


Good to know.

What are the mechanics behind the damage dealt in denying? I've noticed it doesn't apply certain things (doesn't seem to apply Luna's aura, doesn't apply quelling blade) but I'm not sure what damages it does/doesn't include. Anyone know?


Seems it doesn't apply passives. But I'm not really sure.

I would like to know if anyone can answer this.

I find it nice, for example, that it doesn't apply area of effect right clicks, life magnus', kunkka's, sven's, etc... Or auto cast passives live Jakiro's, but don't really know what does and doesn't apply.
Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
June 24 2013 12:29 GMT
#9871
On June 24 2013 21:26 PassiveAce wrote:
magical, so reduced by magic resist.


And blocked by BKB/rage/repel, naturally? Nice to know.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 12:31:32
June 24 2013 12:30 GMT
#9872
yepyep all that good stuff
but ofc your not gonna be able to dodge it with rage while ur silenced :p
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 24 2013 14:18 GMT
#9873
On June 24 2013 21:30 PassiveAce wrote:
yepyep all that good stuff
but ofc your not gonna be able to dodge it with rage while ur silenced :p

Same with BKB.. if you BKB before the orchid is used, the orchid obviously can't be used (since it doesn't go through BKB), and once the silence is on, you can't BKB or Rage. Repel should work fine though (and also debuff the silence immediately I think).
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-24 14:22:24
June 24 2013 14:21 GMT
#9874
I am pretty sure that you can bkb out of orchid silence since items are usable through silences. I think Orchid mutes items in hon but not in dota?

Happy Birthday man
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aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 24 2013 15:33 GMT
#9875
orchid does not mute items in dota2. you can bkb out of orchid and all other silence spells except doom.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
June 24 2013 22:58 GMT
#9876
On June 24 2013 23:18 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 21:30 PassiveAce wrote:
yepyep all that good stuff
but ofc your not gonna be able to dodge it with rage while ur silenced :p

Same with BKB.. if you BKB before the orchid is used, the orchid obviously can't be used (since it doesn't go through BKB), and once the silence is on, you can't BKB or Rage. Repel should work fine though (and also debuff the silence immediately I think).


What? You can BKB out of orchid just fine.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
June 24 2013 23:19 GMT
#9877
On June 24 2013 23:18 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 21:30 PassiveAce wrote:
yepyep all that good stuff
but ofc your not gonna be able to dodge it with rage while ur silenced :p

Same with BKB.. if you BKB before the orchid is used, the orchid obviously can't be used (since it doesn't go through BKB), and once the silence is on, you can't BKB or Rage. Repel should work fine though (and also debuff the silence immediately I think).

HoNtrash detected.
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Jotoco
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1342 Posts
June 25 2013 00:21 GMT
#9878
On June 25 2013 08:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2013 23:18 Tobberoth wrote:
On June 24 2013 21:30 PassiveAce wrote:
yepyep all that good stuff
but ofc your not gonna be able to dodge it with rage while ur silenced :p

Same with BKB.. if you BKB before the orchid is used, the orchid obviously can't be used (since it doesn't go through BKB), and once the silence is on, you can't BKB or Rage. Repel should work fine though (and also debuff the silence immediately I think).

HoNtrash detected.


Don't say this.

I have at least one friend who came from Hon, and he is a nice guy and a good player.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 25 2013 00:23 GMT
#9879
On June 25 2013 09:21 Jotoco wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2013 08:19 Firebolt145 wrote:
On June 24 2013 23:18 Tobberoth wrote:
On June 24 2013 21:30 PassiveAce wrote:
yepyep all that good stuff
but ofc your not gonna be able to dodge it with rage while ur silenced :p

Same with BKB.. if you BKB before the orchid is used, the orchid obviously can't be used (since it doesn't go through BKB), and once the silence is on, you can't BKB or Rage. Repel should work fine though (and also debuff the silence immediately I think).

HoNtrash detected.


Don't say this.

I have at least one friend who came from Hon, and he is a nice guy and a good player.

HoNtrash is pretty much exclusivelly a joke now. HONTRASHPLAYER still the best nick in the competitive scene.
StaraCroft
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 01:13:55
June 25 2013 01:09 GMT
#9880
How do you deal with spirit breaker's Ult?
We've tried to stop him with Omninights magic immunity+physical immunity cast on a hero with BKB active whilst poking SB with force staff, and he still stuns and deals damage. Is there any way to avoid it short of the worlds fastest TP?

Are there any items or abilities that can save you once you have identified that you are getting charged at? Puck's phase shift and maybe Ghost scepter are the only ones that come to my mind.

And how is it possible that his ult goes through both magic and physical immunity while being magic immune himself? What type of damage is he doing?
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