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Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 12 2015 21:29 GMT
#22681
Carry Venge sort of works because being a ranged agi hero with a right-click-boosting skill inherently gives scaling potential. Having experimented with the build, it's best as a position 2 behind another right-clicker, but it's sometimes also necessary if I pick support Venge but my lane-partner completely fails at last hitting, or in a lineup with no harder carries.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 12 2015 21:56 GMT
#22682
On August 13 2015 05:32 Shikada wrote:
I can't find this info anywhere: when is the end date for completing challenges and getting compendium points (also including buying points) ?

not sure....but the coin charms and stuff expire on october 1st
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2718 Posts
August 12 2015 23:07 GMT
#22683
On August 13 2015 05:32 Shikada wrote:
I can't find this info anywhere: when is the end date for completing challenges and getting compendium points (also including buying points) ?


My dota buddies have been saying Thursday (tomorrow). Not sure how true that is, but it's been unanimous.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8865 Posts
August 13 2015 00:49 GMT
#22684
carry venge is awesome. max wave of terror and get a shadowblade and just farm off heroes. you suck at farming creeps so you need to farm off heroes. luckily with a decent early item he can 1v1 pretty much anyone
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
August 13 2015 02:43 GMT
#22685
On August 13 2015 09:49 evilfatsh1t wrote:
carry venge is awesome. max wave of terror and get a shadowblade and just farm off heroes. you suck at farming creeps so you need to farm off heroes. luckily with a decent early item he can 1v1 pretty much anyone


*she

Carry venge is fun. Usually you'd just get a single point in Magic Missile then max out Wave of Terror and Vengeance Aura. One point in stun allows you to use it multiple times in a fight.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
August 13 2015 03:26 GMT
#22686
didn't navi lose with carry venge vs alliance in one of the ti3 finals games or am I making that up
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rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
August 13 2015 03:30 GMT
#22687
they did. they ran some quirky venge-veno lineup that got facerolled in game 1.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Buckyman
Profile Joined May 2014
1364 Posts
August 13 2015 03:54 GMT
#22688
Xboct doesn't build his Venge like he's position 1. In that particular game, he maxed Missile first, which didn't pay off in the form of kills in lane, when what he really needed was Wave to enable jungle farming. I also remember him rushing a Mek in a different game, when, again, what he needed was a farming item.
Jisira
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
470 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-13 21:04:34
August 13 2015 21:02 GMT
#22689
On August 13 2015 12:26 eieio wrote:
didn't navi lose with carry venge vs alliance in one of the ti3 finals games or am I making that up

They were all like "we have the counter" with Venge Veno Visage and got wrecked by Furion safe with some of the sickest Akke Enchantress play ever whilst Funn1k died vs Gyro Wisp bot. The stalling they did top was insane and Na'Vi sorta tilted away game 1.
Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
August 13 2015 21:53 GMT
#22690
The old carry for power rangers, moonlight, played a good amount of venge carry. Back when fng was on the team, then xboxt played venge a couple of times while fng was the drafter for navi I think?
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 00:53:16
August 14 2015 00:52 GMT
#22691
So in summary: it's definitely a thing, but probably not an optimal thing unless your team's lineup is weird.
Baelov
Profile Joined January 2014
United States7 Posts
August 14 2015 01:43 GMT
#22692
what do you guys think are top tier 1s right now. I have been gyro and he seems good in almost every situation and want someone else to play
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-14 04:36:13
August 14 2015 04:34 GMT
#22693
On August 14 2015 10:43 Baelov wrote:
what do you guys think are top tier 1s right now. I have been gyro and he seems good in almost every situation and want someone else to play


Leshrac sometimes better then mid if you think they are going to focus you mid. Probably want to end game between 40 to 50 minute mark, but if you have a good physical dps mid then you are fine to extend it a little longer.
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HUMMAN
Profile Joined July 2015
Turkey61 Posts
August 14 2015 09:01 GMT
#22694
Whats the reason behind blade-mail build on furion?
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
August 14 2015 09:02 GMT
#22695
treads + 4 nulls + blademail hurts a lot early game.
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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
August 14 2015 10:24 GMT
#22696
Its more the fact that you can TP in much more aggressively with a blademail. Other items give more damage, but enemies might just man up on you when you TP in. Blademail gives ok damage, but also protects you from being immediately focused down (which is a pretty big problem for prophet, he doesnt handle being manned up on and focused well).

That said it was quite a long time since blademail was the meta build. Its questionable how often its a good idea in comparison to something like an orchid instead.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
August 14 2015 10:46 GMT
#22697
u can tp in, sprout, attack them, and they cant run or fight u back
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
August 14 2015 12:28 GMT
#22698
All I know about that build is that it's the easiest courier sniping and TP ganks during laning phase as Furion.
I'm more of a fan of the older treads mael build, my team can semi-go fuck itself I want my farm.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
August 14 2015 20:22 GMT
#22699
it was when tinker, swm, probably more that i cant' remember were popular
u could easily 1v1 them with blademail but couldn't w/o it
Spaylz
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan1743 Posts
August 15 2015 08:02 GMT
#22700
Not related to the game itself, but a question for aussie TLers:

I recently moved to Australia, and I want to get back into Dota 2.

Do you guys play on aussie servers, or others? If others, what ping do you get?

I'm quite curious! Thanks.
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