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Kirsed
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opterown
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GodBlessMali
France251 Posts
On May 30 2014 19:00 opterown wrote: wp, looks good! Well, if you didn't want me to sue you for making LGD look bad...  | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
I was skeptical at first when Rabbit replaced Syllar but he really has become one of the best carries with quite a diverse hero pool. Not so confident in Lin yet tho. | ||
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GodBlessMali
France251 Posts
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Kirsed
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http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Lin | ||
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I_love_sharkpeople
United States253 Posts
On May 30 2014 20:21 GodBlessMali wrote: I think Rabbit is one of the best players in China. He is monstrous as a carry player, but he can also play the mid role very well (Batrider, Storm Spirit...). Lin is behind the rest of the team, but he has improved a lot ever since he joined. Agreed! Honestly, Rabbit was an upgrade from sylar. That's saying a lot, given how damn good sylar is. I'd put rabbit up there as one of the top 5 or so carry players in the world, no question. That whole thing when chinese fans were calling for him to be replaced by zsmj or someone a month or so ago just boggled my mind. He's like the best player on the team. I don't know how behind lin is right now - the guy has improved incredibly fast. If he keeps improving at this pace, he can be a big threat at ti4. And speaking of improvement, yao's really recovered from the slump he got into when he became captain. I think he finally adjusted to his new role, so his play has returned to the level it was before. It's really good to see - I've been worried for awhile now. | ||
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Kirsed
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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GodBlessMali
France251 Posts
On May 30 2014 20:52 I_love_sharkpeople wrote: Agreed! Honestly, Rabbit was an upgrade from sylar. That's saying a lot, given how damn good sylar is. I'd put rabbit up there as one of the top 5 or so carry players in the world, no question. That whole thing when chinese fans were calling for him to be replaced by zsmj or someone a month or so ago just boggled my mind. He's like the best player on the team. I don't know how behind lin is right now - the guy has improved incredibly fast. If he keeps improving at this pace, he can be a big threat at ti4. And speaking of improvement, yao's really recovered from the slump he got into when he became captain. I think he finally adjusted to his new role, so his play has returned to the level it was before. It's really good to see - I've been worried for awhile now. I'm a Sylar fan, but I prefer Rabbit because he can play more heroes and more positions which makes LGD unpredictable. | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
Rabbit definitely top 5 though. Burning Hao Sylar Rabbit and maybe Silent. | ||
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GodBlessMali
France251 Posts
On May 31 2014 10:44 Caladbolg wrote: Rabbit ian't necessarily better than Sylar. Sylar excelled with the true lategame carries that required a 4 p 1 or at least a lot of space. Rabbit isn't as impressive a farmer, but is naturally teamfight oriented which plays into how LGD runs their strats nowadays. He's more versatile and it suits them. Put him in VG, however, and you'll see that in their type of lineup (traditional 2 or 3 core with a hard farmer) he won't excel as much. Rabbit definitely top 5 though. Burning Hao Sylar Rabbit and maybe Silent. I'm not sure if I agree with you here because in the current "metagame", it's "rare" to see very late game carries picked. When Rabbit was still in RisingStars, he was very good with some late game heroes such as Anti Mage. LGD's playstyle is not really about the late game, but more about the mid game, that's why he doesn't often play heroes like Spectre. | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On June 01 2014 18:09 GodBlessMali wrote: I'm not sure if I agree with you here because in the current "metagame", it's "rare" to see very late game carries picked. When Rabbit was still in RisingStars, he was very good with some late game heroes such as Anti Mage. LGD's playstyle is not really about the late game, but more about the mid game, that's why he doesn't often play heroes like Spectre. Ah well what i'm saying is basically that rabbit is very good, but it's a stretch to say he's a better carry than sylar who's beastly on pretty much every true carry hero. | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
Any general opinion on rabbit and lin? and how is dd,ddc and yao doing? also yao is still a qt on par with fy. :p | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On June 01 2014 18:09 GodBlessMali wrote: I'm not sure if I agree with you here because in the current "metagame", it's "rare" to see very late game carries picked. When Rabbit was still in RisingStars, he was very good with some late game heroes such as Anti Mage. LGD's playstyle is not really about the late game, but more about the mid game, that's why he doesn't often play heroes like Spectre. I agree with this sentiment that the current strategy set does not always allow for late game carries. And even if you pick late game carries, the team 5 mans quite often enough that involves the carry instead just 4 players fighting and the carry farming away alone. But current strategy is still very heavily 4p1 centric and very aggressive on fighting at that such that both offlane and middle lane heroes rarely get the chance to be greedy in China. In fact, often picking the greedy heroes allows the enemy to get midas that either equalizes the greed or allows the enemy to go aggressive to punish the greed. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On June 01 2014 23:15 Fwizzz wrote: I haven't watched any games of LGD since the departure of xiao8 and sylar. Any general opinion on rabbit and lin? and how is dd,ddc and yao doing? also yao is still a qt on par with fy. :p Rabbit has improved tremendously, not that sold on Lin, does an okay job but doesn't seem to be a standout player relative to the other plays of LGD, perhaps its bias but he makes mistakes quite often that he should not make if LGD wants to win TI. He has improved since joining the team for sure(must be something in LGD's water since that happened with Rabbit). I believe they were stronger with Maybe then with Lin but you know, you roll with what you get. The drafting has improved a lot(this happened after TI even when Xiao8 was still captain). LGD still 5mans quite a bit in their ever so crisp execution but they also diversify. They no longer play 4-1 all the time but play more dualcore strategies with a wider variety of heroes. DD and DDC are still one of the most solid support duo's in the scene, Yao does great and plays a nice Invoker. LGD thinks a lot more out of the box then they used to(which like I said changed after TI and still does occur). I am not sold on Xiao8's departure as I believe that with Xiao8 they would still be quite a bit stronger but so be it. A couple things have not changed about LGD 1. Their 5man is as strong as ever and is to be feared greatly, even if you see it coming from a mile away. 2. They are as disciplined as ever, it doesn't appear as someone questions the authority of the one calling the shots in game, backing off means backing off and it means that LGD does not overextend as much as other teams or makes play. 3. They still suffer from too much 5 manning in some situations, this means that splitpush is still the bane of their existence, while the push that they do is extremly strong and hard to stop they still suffer. They have gotten better at transitioning though and also picking lineups that offer that option much more. I think that LGD right now is not the topdog in China but they are a potent force to be reckoned with, they can win from any team most certainly but they are the underdog against iG, DK and Newbee. I would rate them on the same level as VG. | ||
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opterown
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ForTehDarkseid
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On July 04 2014 14:34 ForTehDarkseid wrote: So we are facing Newbee, DK, EG, Arrow and NaVi.NA on the first day. Harsh schedule, 3-2 is barely reachable, but I'll hope for best! Yep I think 2-3 is more realistic. | ||
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