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On September 02 2018 02:16 shouldbeworking wrote:
Emotion got the best of Ame. If he could get in the zone they would have won, but he crumbled under pressure. Oh well there is always next year and he could improve. Maybe he should take a break like Ana and come back fresh and mature.
Blaming Ame is just wrong, He did what he thought was right if anyone to be blamed its fy for not full-filling captains role properly , a team's captain does alot more than just play out of his mind, a captain need to call shots in game and makes calls during the entire game, and i believe it was said in an interview that fy dont talk much so shots are called between 2-3 guys which can be chaotic and to be honest terrifying because 2-3 different players can have different opinions while calling shots and i thinks thats exactly what LGD lacked, a good captain, undoubtedly Fy is one of the best if not the best player in his role but he is far from a great captain and as we all know, dota is a game about team and not about player.
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wow really? This team had the best coordination and warding overall
I guess yeah in 2-3 key moments vs OG one dominant shot caller could swing the tide
But they would miss out on so many other situations where the team looked like a well oiled machine between 2-3 players
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yeah. they are making mistakes and everyone is. i'm not talking about those.
i was talking about the ones that players don't make under most if not all circumstances.
does his team or does an individual ask him to choke/bait, or is he doing it on his own?
i've always known ame to be a choker even while they were winning majors in the regular circuit. you don't have to believe it's an individual thing or to take my word for it. you can go ahead and watch the TI replays in his perspective.
i'm not even an LGD fan, or an OG anti-fan. the better team did, and will always win. it was just truly, in the moment, a painful thing to watch to see it unfold. some of the easiest decision making things, especially for a player of his supposed calibur completely slipping.
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On September 03 2018 05:47 nanaoei wrote:
i'm not even an LGD fan, or an OG anti-fan. the better team did, and will always win. it was just truly, in the moment, a painful thing to watch to see it unfold. some of the easiest decision making things, especially for a player of his supposed calibur completely slipping.
Not necessarily related to LGD, but it's clearly a fallacy to say that the best team "did and always will win." That's really far away from the truth imo.
As for LGD, I'm pretty sure they're still the best team in the world. Just because you don't win one tournament doesn't take that title away from you, and their performances over the last 4 months have clearly been better than every other team. With TI 9 in Shanghai, I don't see any way that a Chinese doesn't win, and LGD will most likely be the best Chinese team for a long time to come.
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Why are u so sure that a Chinese team will win. VP was the best team this year but meta and TI pressure made them flop this year. I think playing in Shanghai will put much more pressure on the Chinese teams and makes it much more likely they will flop.
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Better team will always win? Are you even playing Dota guys? The proscene is a game of small edges, there are random elements small plays swinging the tide
Any top team the odds of winning a series is like 60:40 at best these days
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On September 03 2018 14:54 Sapaio wrote:
Why are u so sure that a Chinese team will win. VP was the best team this year but meta and TI pressure made them flop this year. I think playing in Shanghai will put much more pressure on the Chinese teams and makes it much more likely they will flop.
I have a hunch the Chinese government is going to support the teams this year in any way they can. The Chinese consider it embarrassing to lose on their home turf (look how good their Olympic teams were in 2008 or how well China did as a region in League's Worlds last year, for example) and I feel that they'll get access to resources they may not have had for this season.
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none the less, its highly debatable which is the best team but the most important thing is The LGD could not deliver when it was required and that disappointed many fans, not to take anything away from OG ,they did well, But LGD could not reach the same caliber of team fight execution when it was needed most and thats just a simple fact
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On September 03 2018 23:44 warrior4093 wrote:
none the less, its highly debatable which is the best team but the most important thing is The LGD could not deliver when it was required and that disappointed many fans, not to take anything away from OG ,they did well, But LGD could not reach the same caliber of team fight execution when it was needed most and thats just a simple fact
That's not a fact. It's just easier to look good against weaker teams.
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On September 04 2018 14:25 haxhax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2018 23:44 warrior4093 wrote:
none the less, its highly debatable which is the best team but the most important thing is The LGD could not deliver when it was required and that disappointed many fans, not to take anything away from OG ,they did well, But LGD could not reach the same caliber of team fight execution when it was needed most and thats just a simple fact That's not a fact. It's just easier to look good against weaker teams.
read it again, i m certain u misunderstood what i said
I was criticizing LGD and the fact that they were not as good as OG at team fight execution.
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LGD is juz unlucky. Need to play 8 tight games in the same day. They are losing concentration and judgement impaired especially at the grandfinal 4th games. But this is the result and we should respect them. The best MVP is still fy and i dun see anyone can be as good as him in the grandfinal. The other reason is the 4th games, the super fat late game PL is almost undeadable, exactly look like Dota Medusa, juz let them farm and they can come back.
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Maybe taking a break!
Maybe is taking a break for an undisclosed amount of time. Huge loss for LGD as he is by far the best and consistent midlaner China has to offer. Let´s see if this will have some impact on the forthcoming qualifiers.
Hope to see Maybe returning soon. Would be sad if he miss many Majors and/or TI.
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On January 29 2019 19:24 Rufus Dupres wrote:Maybe taking a break!Maybe is taking a break for an undisclosed amount of time. Huge loss for LGD as he is by far the best and consistent midlaner China has to offer. Let´s see if this will have some impact on the forthcoming qualifiers. Hope to see Maybe returning soon. Would be sad if he miss many Majors and/or TI.
Yeah hope he is back for TI, but they probably need a good rest. I heard the sub XM is a very good player who was ranked 1 in CN for quite some time. Hopefully they can mesh well too
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Updated the OP with the recently announced changes. Think LGD is the first team to announce that they're taking a break. Will be interesting to see how many others will follow!
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Hopefully fy doesn't smash too many darts in his downtime. Otherwise he might need eye surgery again soon
Glad they didn't kick anyone. They are still really good.
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for sure. they were ultra behind on tempo in the upper bracket, but had multiple chances to take OG down to the lower bracket in that series. i don't blame the drafts as bad as the last game looked.
fy has become one of my favourite players for always delivering a performance that makes your mouth go agape.
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First surprise of the qualifiers...LGD lost to FTD Apollo in the round of 16(last BO1 before BO3 starts) and will not be moving forward to the closed qualifiers and/or participating at the 2nd Major. Guess we will see some more upsets with the new patch.
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I'd prefer to blame the system before LGD here. A patch released just two days before the open qualifiers opens you up to a bunch of cheesy strats. Or not even cheese, one team can just have figured out a good combo that's really hard to counter (like morphling/es in the last patch). The fact that the OQ is all Bo1 means that you have no way to recover from that. I don't think this will be the only legit team to fall in the OQ's. I'd be scared if I was Liquid or Secret, for example.
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On November 28 2019 21:23 Julmust wrote:
I'd be scared if I was Nigma or Secret, for example.
Have amended it. 
Yeah, I am pretty scared as well that one of these two teams will fall to a cheese strat in a BO1. Wondering if Secret and Nigma will be the top-seeded teams with no possibility to play against each other.
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