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Ultimo Hombre
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia1436 Posts
May 13 2015 11:39 GMT
#561
On May 13 2015 20:18 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 19:55 Atoissen wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:22 goody153 wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:12 Rix wrote:
On May 13 2015 06:49 Azimuth wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:40 HighTimeDotA wrote:
if super was as bad as noobs think he is he wouldve been replaced already.

its just like people flaming rotk and xiao8 and they got second and first at ti4. gg haters.


To be fair, rotk and xiao8 are known for their leadership, drafting and just in general captaining a team, neither of them are known as great mechanical players and they don't play mid which is probably the most mechanic intense position.



I believe Xiao8 played mid for LGD in 2013 and more recently for Big God

he's not really amazing at mid .. the current mid Maybe obviously plays a better mid than him

Xiao8 was a amazing mid, and I believe he still would be if that was the pos he practiced.

honestly while he was good .. he wasn't that "good" like the difference between sing, mynuts from the best mids like Ferrari/rtz/others

also it's a waste to put Maybe on something he doesn't excel that's like putting suma1l on support or something where he couldn't what he does best

Yeah its not exactly a controversial statement to say that Maybe is a better mid player than xiao8
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
May 13 2015 11:41 GMT
#562
On May 13 2015 20:39 Ultimo Hombre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2015 20:18 goody153 wrote:
On May 13 2015 19:55 Atoissen wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:22 goody153 wrote:
On May 13 2015 18:12 Rix wrote:
On May 13 2015 06:49 Azimuth wrote:
On May 13 2015 05:40 HighTimeDotA wrote:
if super was as bad as noobs think he is he wouldve been replaced already.

its just like people flaming rotk and xiao8 and they got second and first at ti4. gg haters.


To be fair, rotk and xiao8 are known for their leadership, drafting and just in general captaining a team, neither of them are known as great mechanical players and they don't play mid which is probably the most mechanic intense position.



I believe Xiao8 played mid for LGD in 2013 and more recently for Big God

he's not really amazing at mid .. the current mid Maybe obviously plays a better mid than him

Xiao8 was a amazing mid, and I believe he still would be if that was the pos he practiced.

honestly while he was good .. he wasn't that "good" like the difference between sing, mynuts from the best mids like Ferrari/rtz/others

also it's a waste to put Maybe on something he doesn't excel that's like putting suma1l on support or something where he couldn't what he does best

Yeah its not exactly a controversial statement to say that Maybe is a better mid player than xiao8

well out of the two xiao8 certainly the one who knows how to adapt though

not that Maybe has tried adapting but he generally plays carry/mid so why throw him away of his comfort zone ..
this is a quote
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
May 13 2015 12:06 GMT
#563
On May 13 2015 18:53 uriel- wrote:
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On May 13 2015 01:06 DucK- wrote:
On May 12 2015 19:59 uriel- wrote:
Nobody notices when super straight up carries the team, that's just him doing his job apparently. But everyone jumps on him when he underperforms.

Super's ember spirit, sniper and SF were crushing faces during VG's 6.83 run but I guess everyone knows VG is all about dat iceiceice and fy-god.



I slam super all the time, but I do give credit in the few games that he shows up and dominate.

I think everyone slamming super recognises that he has his A games. But I think we rather have a player that consistently gets a B grade, rather than one that gets B 65% of the time, C 25% of the time, and A 10% of the time. A player that we can depend on, that won't lose you the game.



As I was saying, a consistent B grade doesn't win TI. If he is F- throughout the year and goes A+ during TI, that wins TI.

That's an extreme exaggeration obviously but you get my point. And I don't think super "lost VG the game" either - their losses against empire came down to drafts and misplays by everyone, including things that aren't so obvious like vision and team decisions. Nobody seems to be criticizing the captain and drafter even though that's the person who should come under fire first and foremost when teams get thoroughly outplayed - for some reason it's always "super the weakest link".


My point is that the +4 is good enough to win TI. All they need is a solo mid that can reliably do his job. But super and reliability are like opposites. That guy could actually miss razes on stunned heroes.

I don't always blame super for everything. They often do lose due to awkward drafts by fy. I said many times how I feel ever time Vici drafts a relatively early clock for iceiceice. Not that he is bad at the hero, but they expect him to do so much while providing so little.

We all love to see A+ super show up. But when will he come? Will he even show up in TI? Or will not-so-super turn up as he often is these days.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44306 Posts
May 13 2015 14:44 GMT
#564
this is a quote
Azimuth
Profile Joined April 2015
231 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 22:55:49
May 13 2015 22:52 GMT
#565
Props to Super, his Alch was on point and so was his Pugna.

And that Decrepify on Fenrir to save his life at 2% hp was masterful.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-13 23:09:23
May 13 2015 23:08 GMT
#566
That was a dominating Day 1 by VG.
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 14 2015 00:52 GMT
#567
On May 14 2015 07:52 Azimuth wrote:
Props to Super, his Alch was on point and so was his Pugna.

And that Decrepify on Fenrir to save his life at 2% hp was masterful.


That was a sick play indeed.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Rix
Profile Joined May 2015
Singapore39 Posts
May 14 2015 02:06 GMT
#568
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
May 14 2015 03:57 GMT
#569
Goddamn Iceiceice

And yeah, back to Super... I recall a Dendi and 430 interview back in TI2 (when they were the two mids most talked about by everyone) and both of them said that Super was the best mid they faced (instead of each other).
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
Reson
Profile Joined July 2014
530 Posts
May 14 2015 04:12 GMT
#570
As much as it's fun for Ice to troll around sometimes. I hope they ask Josh to translate some of the. Hotbid Interviews next time to help showcase the interviewee's personality more directly.
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
May 14 2015 09:40 GMT
#571
On May 14 2015 13:12 Reson wrote:
As much as it's fun for Ice to troll around sometimes. I hope they ask Josh to translate some of the. Hotbid Interviews next time to help showcase the interviewee's personality more directly.

He did the subtitles for the video.
ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 17 2015 00:10 GMT
#572
man its very entertaining watching iceiceice playing offlane. i think there is something different. i watched rotk's, fata's and the other offlaners but there is something on iceiceice. something that makes him better than all of them that i dont know what. i want iceiceice's style. teach me senpai . :3
Support? Offlane? Mid? Carry? Hell with that, a good player is a good player regardless of the role
ActStyle
Profile Joined May 2015
43 Posts
May 17 2015 02:06 GMT
#573
VG What happen? that game2-3 against Secret (
Support? Offlane? Mid? Carry? Hell with that, a good player is a good player regardless of the role
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
May 17 2015 02:33 GMT
#574
iono what happened probably got out drafted that last game.
they picked ember at the _very_ last second, probably doesn't want to play him.
They need to find a new hero for super, and honestly he could've played sniper, really...
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
May 17 2015 03:09 GMT
#575
fy still has problems drafting imo
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
May 17 2015 03:41 GMT
#576
On May 17 2015 11:33 evanthebouncy! wrote:
iono what happened probably got out drafted that last game.
they picked ember at the _very_ last second, probably doesn't want to play him.
They need to find a new hero for super, and honestly he could've played sniper, really...


Probably wanted Alchemist, Alchemist was banned, didn't know what to pick and panicked.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
OzVelas
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria516 Posts
May 17 2015 06:24 GMT
#577
On May 17 2015 12:41 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 11:33 evanthebouncy! wrote:
iono what happened probably got out drafted that last game.
they picked ember at the _very_ last second, probably doesn't want to play him.
They need to find a new hero for super, and honestly he could've played sniper, really...


Probably wanted Alchemist, Alchemist was banned, didn't know what to pick and panicked.


They could have picked dk whos pretty similar to alchemist.. and that second pick timber was so odd
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-17 07:54:08
May 17 2015 07:52 GMT
#578
On May 17 2015 15:24 OzVelas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2015 12:41 the bear jew wrote:
On May 17 2015 11:33 evanthebouncy! wrote:
iono what happened probably got out drafted that last game.
they picked ember at the _very_ last second, probably doesn't want to play him.
They need to find a new hero for super, and honestly he could've played sniper, really...


Probably wanted Alchemist, Alchemist was banned, didn't know what to pick and panicked.


They could have picked dk whos pretty similar to alchemist.. and that second pick timber was so odd

Deleted as wrong info. Yeah, i don't understand their game 3 draft tbh either after that. I mean i understand the fear of DK getting dominated mid hardcore but they understood well they had to sac one of lanes at this point either way.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
May 17 2015 17:13 GMT
#579
bois we pulling of a secret ;(
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
cbk486
Profile Joined July 2014
154 Posts
May 17 2015 19:26 GMT
#580
Ugh.
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