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Blackspikes
Profile Joined August 2014
United States51 Posts
December 09 2014 14:46 GMT
#61
On December 09 2014 20:23 Krishan.bif wrote:
Brax playing mid has been underwhelming. I really think tc mid is better than tc carry.


Completely agree, TC needs to stay mid so Brax can carry. TC's P1 is kindof underwhelming.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 11 2014 00:56 GMT
#62
A toffees interview with USH that sheds some light on the changes that happened in Nyx Assassins


tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7059 Posts
December 20 2014 22:28 GMT
#63
So apparently SNA is now playing under the name FireDota with the roster of USH, TC, ixmike, Fogged, and FLUFFNSTUFF.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 20 2014 22:40 GMT
#64
Did Fluff write a new manifesto for the second incarnation of Fire?
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 23:59:45
December 20 2014 23:53 GMT
#65
On December 21 2014 07:40 Daralii wrote:
Did Fluff write a new manifesto for the second incarnation of Fire?

rofl. I'm going to be a bit sad if this is where Fogged ends up, and a bit sad for whitebeard. Feels like a team that just doesn't have a high enough ceiling (assuming USH is temporary). Fogged's still playing under standin tag though.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 21 2014 00:30 GMT
#66
On December 21 2014 08:53 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 07:40 Daralii wrote:
Did Fluff write a new manifesto for the second incarnation of Fire?

rofl. I'm going to be a bit sad if this is where Fogged ends up, and a bit sad for whitebeard. Feels like a team that just doesn't have a high enough ceiling (assuming USH is temporary). Fogged's still playing under standin tag though.

To be fair, everyone on the team except for Fluff has standin tags.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 21 2014 02:06 GMT
#67
Also, who are USH and Fogged going to team up with that 1) is even playing right now and 2) has even a reasonable shot of staying together.

At least with TC/Fluff/Mike you know that core isn't going anywhere and that USH has worked well with them in the past. Fogged is also 100% legit and I would be ridiculously excited if he were to play on that team.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 02:28:51
December 21 2014 02:13 GMT
#68
On December 21 2014 11:06 Jinxed wrote:
Also, who are USH and Fogged going to team up with that 1) is even playing right now and 2) has even a reasonable shot of staying together.

At least with TC/Fluff/Mike you know that core isn't going anywhere and that USH has worked well with them in the past. Fogged is also 100% legit and I would be ridiculously excited if he were to play on that team.

If USH comes back it's a different story. Brax on that team just feels like an inevitable fail, but I have no idea how committed they are to having him on the team.

EDIT: Fluffs tweets make it sound like it is probably the new roster with USH TC Mike Fogged Fluff
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 21 2014 02:34 GMT
#69
Yeah, I agree that Brax and the rest wasn't that great. I like Brax and think that he's good, but I don't think he works with TC and the rest.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 21 2014 03:43 GMT
#70
Heh. A team with the potential to hit just tier 2 status. At least there's no more brax, but why no whitebeard. Think he was the beat performing player.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 21 2014 05:15 GMT
#71
On December 21 2014 11:13 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 11:06 Jinxed wrote:
Also, who are USH and Fogged going to team up with that 1) is even playing right now and 2) has even a reasonable shot of staying together.

At least with TC/Fluff/Mike you know that core isn't going anywhere and that USH has worked well with them in the past. Fogged is also 100% legit and I would be ridiculously excited if he were to play on that team.

If USH comes back it's a different story. Brax on that team just feels like an inevitable fail, but I have no idea how committed they are to having him on the team.

EDIT: Fluffs tweets make it sound like it is probably the new roster with USH TC Mike Fogged Fluff

Ush made a similar tweet. So how long until this roster gets picked up by CoL, then dumped and picked up by Liquid?
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sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
December 21 2014 08:15 GMT
#72
how do two people get kicked from this team and neither of them are ixmike is my question
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
December 21 2014 09:05 GMT
#73
Enjoying playing with people is kinda a big deal too. Clearly TC, Fluff and Mike have a thing going
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 22 2014 02:02 GMT
#74
On December 21 2014 18:05 Zealos wrote:
Enjoying playing with people is kinda a big deal too. Clearly TC, Fluff and Mike have a thing going


Yeah, this part seems pretty clear. And tbh Fire/SNA have proved time and time again like it or not that they're the second best team in North America, or at least the most consistent team besides EG in the region. (probably not the most balanced of statements since I'm a TC fan(chillest of all streams)).
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Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
December 22 2014 02:12 GMT
#75
I'm just glad that tc is back in mid, ush is back to carry and brax is gone. It's going to be 45 mins or more of farming kind of games, but at least there's no more of brax puck walking into fog of war and getting decimated by 4 people.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
December 22 2014 02:47 GMT
#76
Congrats and cya in kiev <3
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 22 2014 02:57 GMT
#77
Hopefully they can do well when other teams don't shoot themselves in the foot with drafts. Drafting morphling into et and disruptor? Easy MMR for Fire.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 07:04:07
December 22 2014 07:03 GMT
#78
Fogged and USH are on the team now not just standing in.

Brax is a really great player and a swell guy there's no need to be flamers ;_;
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shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 22 2014 07:33 GMT
#79
I definitely think with Fogged on the team, this team can start putting up more of a LAN presence.

they already qualified for SL11 I think, I definitely want to see more of them
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Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
December 22 2014 13:26 GMT
#80
On December 22 2014 16:03 harodihg wrote:
Fogged and USH are on the team now not just standing in.

Brax is a really great player and a swell guy there's no need to be flamers ;_;

No diss intended, I just felt replacing ush with brax then bumping tc to carry was a demotion. Ideally I would like brax over ixmike, but we all know thats not gonna happen. Also awfully disappointed that WB got cut, he was really impressive.

Also-- wheres my sna/fire flair, liquid?
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