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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-06 02:10:59
May 21 2014 21:35 GMT
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[image loading] Didn't see a thread for them so I figured I'd start one. Any news as to what's next for this team? Do we know if they're sticking together? I hope they do.
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Verrou
Profile Joined July 2013
France193 Posts
May 21 2014 21:48 GMT
#2
They have my favourite hero as their emblem. They better stay together. I really liked their drafts and their play, even if it's still not up to TI level, but if they keep it up, they might be there for TI5
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28090 Posts
May 21 2014 21:53 GMT
#3
First of all, thanks for making a team thread!!! Our staff made the initial batch, but we hoped at some point fans would start creating the threads on their own

I interviewed USH last week btw, and they aren't sure if they are sticking together. He said the experience was great, and that he wanted to continue making his name bigger in Dota 2. So I guess we need to wait and see!
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
May 21 2014 22:41 GMT
#4
Fluff and mike can form a team with better pub stars, probably will disband.
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 21 2014 23:27 GMT
#5
yeah, that's the problem with TI - teams form for TI, disband if they don't qualify, and disband anyway after TI unless they have brilliant team chemistry and place highly. TI is too pivotal for the scene

i wish these guys the best, but it seems inevitable they'll all be in the great american shake post-TI
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 23:35:52
May 21 2014 23:35 GMT
#6
In all honesty, maybe not a complete redo, but we might see a change or so.

I like what they have to be perfectly honest, though I'm not sold on Mike as a core. Still Fluff seems to be playing well and USH/SNA show a lot of potential. Whitebeard I haven't watched closely enough to make a decision on, but we'll see about him too.

Very interesting team. Wish them the best, that's for sure.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 00:52:29
May 22 2014 00:46 GMT
#7
sticking together is their only right course of action

its 5 players about the same skill level that get along fine, splitting up wont help anyone.

of course only as long as everyone has about the same goals after ti4.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
May 22 2014 01:53 GMT
#8
IDK about the same skill level. Fluff is pretty clearly a step above the rest of the guys and Mike is a close second with USH as probably the third best on the team.

It's going to come down more to what happens with other teams more than anything else. I don't think anyone can predict that accurately right now though so until that time I think just hoping they stay together is enough.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
May 22 2014 03:16 GMT
#9
whitebeard showed a lot of growth over the qualifiers but he isn't quite up to par yet. Honestly I hope SNA and USH go on to bigger things and Mike and Fluff keep growing some talent and play part time . Enjoyed watching them grow as a team and individuals
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
May 22 2014 13:19 GMT
#10
On May 22 2014 06:53 TheEmulator wrote:
First of all, thanks for making a team thread!!! Our staff made the initial batch, but we hoped at some point fans would start creating the threads on their own


You're very welcome! Thanks for helping to make LiquidDota awesome!!!


Can they at least make a shirt on cafepress or something so I can support them and get a momento for this moment in time? I WANT SWAG.
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SexyPoloondi
Profile Joined May 2014
United States31 Posts
June 03 2014 01:25 GMT
#11
Played a game of CS with Mike and Ush yesterday and I have to say they're both pretty nice guys. I hope they do well in the future!
Classic Jimmy
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
June 03 2014 01:58 GMT
#12
I was just looking for any new info on them. I saw USH tweet about how he misses competitive DOTA, but I don't know if that means anything regarding the group other than they have no pro matches scheduled any time soon. Anyone know anything? I really like this team and hope they stick together.
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 01 2014 01:06 GMT
#13
I haven't been able to follow DOTA much this summer, so now coming back to it I see that there have been some roster changes, most notably SNA and whitebeard officially leaving the team, as did someone named Lust (I'm guessing that was a short stint at one point?). Anyway, does anyone know any details behind why any of these guys are no longer with the team?

Also, I see wayto listed as an active member of the team. I read about his departure from Liquid and how it had a lot to do with him wanting to go back to school, so is he just playing with them until school starts or is he an "official" member? Did his plans for going back to school change?

Just curious if anyone knows anything. Thanks in advance for any info!!
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 01 2014 21:31 GMT
#14
Also is it just me or did SNA's gaming schedule get totally fucked around today?
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 01 2014 22:21 GMT
#15
SNA is playing on joindotaBLUE, not RED as advertised on this site. http://www.twitch.tv/joindotablue
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AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-02 20:02:15
September 02 2014 20:01 GMT
#16
On September 01 2014 10:06 The Binary Son wrote:
I haven't been able to follow DOTA much this summer, so now coming back to it I see that there have been some roster changes, most notably SNA and whitebeard officially leaving the team, as did someone named Lust (I'm guessing that was a short stint at one point?). Anyway, does anyone know any details behind why any of these guys are no longer with the team?

Also, I see wayto listed as an active member of the team. I read about his departure from Liquid and how it had a lot to do with him wanting to go back to school, so is he just playing with them until school starts or is he an "official" member? Did his plans for going back to school change?

Just curious if anyone knows anything. Thanks in advance for any info!!


I don't think anyone really knows what their roster is, the closest we have to an official roster is TC, Fluff, Mike, Ush and wayto. But yesterday I think they played with Lust and Mason instead of Us and Fluff (could be wrong as they were smurf accounts). They're playing a series for CEVO tonight, to let's see who they will be playing with.

They're actually doing pretty well outside of the random feeds by some of their players. TC said on his stream that it shouldn't be too hard for them to achieve #2 USA team
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
September 03 2014 15:18 GMT
#17
Wayto has been playing amazing lately. Their next litmus test would be narvi, but judging by their respective matches, I think sna has the edge easy. Really excited fot this team.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 03 2014 23:19 GMT
#18
Yeah they look pretty good. Still I really would like to see how it comes together for them against EG and Narvi. Narvi has always given them issues and I don't see anything that would make me believe 100% that this has changed.

Probably going to be the best matchup of the starladder qualifiers. I still think EG is going to take it all, but it would be nice if there was at least one team to give them a fight.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
September 04 2014 05:17 GMT
#19
Apparently they had a second match against NoT for the BSI Beat It qualifiers (next to the earlier one for D2CL). VOD: http://www.twitch.tv/joindotablue/b/564944289

Result:
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SNA 2:0 NoT
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/873137271
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/873100524

theaxis12
Profile Joined March 2011
United States489 Posts
September 04 2014 06:49 GMT
#20
TL Rejects are looking really good. I'm glad to see TC land on a team that can go somewhere, he is so underrated.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 04 2014 18:26 GMT
#21
Lol they really are the TL rejects. Though I suppose they are also the Col rejects as well. Either way they are playing well right now. Still have to wait for the Narvi game but till then I'm excited.

LD flair for SNA when?
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-05 23:29:33
September 05 2014 23:16 GMT
#22
If you have the chance to check out Fluff's stream I would recommend it by the way. He interacts really well with stream chat and he always is answering questions about the game and his thoughts. Also you learn how to do crazy things like chain pulling radiant hard camp directly to the easy camp with windranger as well as a lot about support play in general. Also he's one of the few streamers that will play support in their public games and he shows you how to have an impact in games as support.

EDIT: Also on stream Fluff said that they were in talks with sponsors, but were not considering Liquid. He won't get into it, but he doesn't want to go back to them. Not really surprising though considering that him, Mike and Wayto were all kicked from the team at one point or another.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
drusalnik
Profile Joined July 2014
Bulgaria133 Posts
September 06 2014 02:16 GMT
#23
On September 06 2014 08:16 LeLoup wrote:
If you have the chance to check out Fluff's stream I would recommend it by the way. He interacts really well with stream chat and he always is answering questions about the game and his thoughts. Also you learn how to do crazy things like chain pulling radiant hard camp directly to the easy camp with windranger as well as a lot about support play in general. Also he's one of the few streamers that will play support in their public games and he shows you how to have an impact in games as support.

EDIT: Also on stream Fluff said that they were in talks with sponsors, but were not considering Liquid. He won't get into it, but he doesn't want to go back to them. Not really surprising though considering that him, Mike and Wayto were all kicked from the team at one point or another.


There are reasons for them been kicked and we all know them.
It is good that Liquid isn't gonna sign these 3 people again.

Also i don't think interacting with viewers makes anything worth while if you don't win even some medicore lans/online tournaments.

Lets be honest SNA don't really have much chance against 95% of the now considered tier 1 teams.
I do wish them the best of luck tough and to whom ever decides to pick them.
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
September 07 2014 07:57 GMT
#24
Wait they actually lost to Dream Destroyers? :/
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
September 07 2014 09:01 GMT
#25
Tc played well, fluff played phenomenal, standins were crap and wayto playing core was horrible

/excuses off

To dream destroyers?! GODDAMIT
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14896 Posts
September 08 2014 15:34 GMT
#26
what a shame, i'm a big bkid fan too
DoctorHeckle
Profile Joined October 2013
United States192 Posts
September 18 2014 01:43 GMT
#27
No one's talking about that win over EG? That showed shades of Liquid/LGD from TI3.
I keep things two ways: Nice, and neat.
Ricci
Profile Joined April 2014
Brazil52 Posts
September 18 2014 17:37 GMT
#28
On September 18 2014 10:43 DoctorHeckle wrote:
No one's talking about that win over EG? That showed shades of Liquid/LGD from TI3.


Indeed. I was expecting this here as well. That game was something.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 18 2014 18:21 GMT
#29
They did it with whitebeard as well. Makes me think that wayto was just a standin for a while. Kinda glad that it is back to whitebeard though. Fluff and him have pretty good synergy and they play well together. I always felt that Fluff and Wayto didn't work correctly.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
October 05 2014 21:12 GMT
#30
So Ush is pretty good. any word on whether they'll stick with TC/Fluff/Mike/Whitebeard/Ush?
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 05 2014 22:24 GMT
#31
I think whitebeard is the only question out of that group, but he has shown solid improvement over the past year. I think TC and/or USH could potentially be poached if they don't get a sponsor and a sponsored team wants one of them. TC's still getting liquid money but that runs out soon iirc
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 06 2014 02:38 GMT
#32
One of the most underrated things about supports is how well they synergize with the other support. Whiteboard and Fluff work very well together and their hero pools compliment each other nicely. I think that they should keep it as is.

As for players getting poached I doubt that any of them are going to leave an 'established' team to join up with relative unknowns. More likely sna gets a sponsor. I think they are just waiting for the right deal to come along.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 04:43:57
October 06 2014 04:43 GMT
#33
Yeah I don't see them leaving for unknown players on a non-sponsored team, but if say NarVi decide they want USH to replace braxx; hard to say no to the paycheck. Kid's been getting better and better, his games today reminded me of TC playing carry.

I agree about support play though, wayto and fluff never meshed well
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
October 06 2014 05:01 GMT
#34
Whitebeard is so much better as support than wayto, mainly because wayto feels like he only moonlights as support (see his stream, all he plays are carries). WB is more dedicated, and is a bigger playmaker. Him, ush and tc are this teams biggest assets. They can surprise a lot of people in esl ny if their opponents sleep on them.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 06 2014 06:07 GMT
#35
whitebeard also presses like 2 buttons every teamfight wheras way2 usually presses 1
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
DoctorHeckle
Profile Joined October 2013
United States192 Posts
October 07 2014 20:50 GMT
#36
Looking dominant against NaVi.US! Looks like they either figured out their old rival or that team is just crumbling with internal issues.
I keep things two ways: Nice, and neat.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 07 2014 21:42 GMT
#37
Part of both IMO. TC being added to the team as well as Navi US kind of falling apart.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
DoctorHeckle
Profile Joined October 2013
United States192 Posts
October 07 2014 21:50 GMT
#38
TC's been on the team all season, though. Looks like wayto's officially on NaVi.US, so yeah they're big time falling apart.

Doesn't really matter though. They're going to Bucharest! SNA world tour.
I keep things two ways: Nice, and neat.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 07 2014 22:00 GMT
#39
I'm saying that since TC has been playing with them they've been slowly getting better.

Really though it was Whitebeard playing consistently that has made the most difference. Whitebeard and Fluff are really clicking in matches together.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
October 07 2014 23:35 GMT
#40
so is TC confirmed in yet?
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-08 00:34:23
October 08 2014 00:34 GMT
#41
On October 08 2014 08:35 Promethelax wrote:
so is TC confirmed in yet?

mike, fluff and tc... that's a combo i've heard more than once
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
October 08 2014 02:12 GMT
#42
On October 06 2014 15:07 Kupon3ss wrote:
whitebeard also presses like 2 buttons every teamfight wheras way2 usually presses 1

If only this was said during TI performances, lol the chaos.
GranDGranT
Profile Joined April 2011
Sri Lanka2141 Posts
October 08 2014 02:49 GMT
#43
Ush is by far the best player on this team, not to mention his Zai's age. TC is pretty close up there and it goes downhill from there.
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Snerd
Profile Joined October 2013
United States125 Posts
October 08 2014 02:59 GMT
#44
Dang these guys are looking good right now. They could possibly become a top tier team pretty soon.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
October 08 2014 19:40 GMT
#45
On October 08 2014 11:12 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 15:07 Kupon3ss wrote:
whitebeard also presses like 2 buttons every teamfight wheras way2 usually presses 1

If only this was said during TI performances, lol the chaos.


Ive said exactly this for the past year
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 10 2014 05:06 GMT
#46
Good try by SNA. They had some good moments, had some good pickoffs. I know I wouldnt' be happy losing, but I feel like they can look at those games, see what went well, what went wrong and build off of that for upcoming D2CL
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 10 2014 15:59 GMT
#47
Yeah there isn't a lot of shame in losing to c9. First lan for USH and whitebeard as well. Hopefully they can do better at Bucharest.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
October 10 2014 18:56 GMT
#48
Are they going to get a sponsor?
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 10 2014 19:43 GMT
#49
I would imagine they will. Hard to believe that a team that is arguably the second best in NA wouldn't be able to get a sponsor, but you never know. They're not a bad team, though still probably a step below the T1 teams at the moment.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 10 2014 22:12 GMT
#50
I know it is JD, but this was a pretty good article on SNA

http://www.joindota.com/en/news/22109-the-story-of-the-fallen
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 24 2014 22:54 GMT
#51
USH said on his twitter that he is out of the team, was seen playing with NaVi.US boys. Brax was playing with SNA as well. No idea when Brax's contract runs out but it's possible he is the replacement. I can see Brax and Fluff butting heads so hard...
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
October 24 2014 23:06 GMT
#52
Yeah, that's a bit weird. Brax doesn't seem like the fit for the team, but it's hard to say who would be good for them. Not sure if they go for a mid player or a safe lane player either.

Still, I wish USH the best of luck wherever he lands. If he wants to play at the top level, he still has a lot of time to do so.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
October 24 2014 23:08 GMT
#53
And Ush is pretty damn good, I feel like he will land on his feet. Honestly, most of the matches I've watched, it's been all on USH all the time to carry and win for team regardless of what TC was doing at Mid.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 25 2014 00:34 GMT
#54
On October 25 2014 07:54 giftdgecko wrote:
USH said on his twitter that he is out of the team, was seen playing with NaVi.US boys. Brax was playing with SNA as well. No idea when Brax's contract runs out but it's possible he is the replacement. I can see Brax and Fluff butting heads so hard...

did he delete the tweet I dont see it at all
idk why sna would kick ush but i could definitely see ush leaving for an actually sponsored team
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-25 00:43:02
October 25 2014 00:42 GMT
#55
You have to look under tweets and replies.

LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 25 2014 03:54 GMT
#56
Ewwww brax. Instant dislike and disapproval. Guess tc really wanted the carry role.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
October 25 2014 05:11 GMT
#57
nah tc said he doesnt like playing 1 anymore
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
December 08 2014 02:43 GMT
#58
This team is slowly turning into my Fantasy Team from TI3 - Liquid + Brax. I'm SO PSYCHED. But they better not break my heart and up and disband like Na'Vi.US just did...

...speaking of Na'Vi.US......what do people think of SNA's chances of becoming SNA'Vi????
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 08 2014 03:08 GMT
#59
On December 08 2014 11:43 The Binary Son wrote:
This team is slowly turning into my Fantasy Team from TI3 - Liquid + Brax. I'm SO PSYCHED. But they better not break my heart and up and disband like Na'Vi.US just did...

...speaking of Na'Vi.US......what do people think of SNA's chances of becoming SNA'Vi????

If they want another NA team (which they said they do), I can't see another team that has the same potential they do so it's possible. SNA hasn't really been improving since brax joined though, long way to go
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
December 09 2014 11:23 GMT
#60
Brax playing mid has been underwhelming. I really think tc mid is better than tc carry.
Blackspikes
Profile Joined August 2014
United States51 Posts
December 09 2014 14:46 GMT
#61
On December 09 2014 20:23 Krishan.bif wrote:
Brax playing mid has been underwhelming. I really think tc mid is better than tc carry.


Completely agree, TC needs to stay mid so Brax can carry. TC's P1 is kindof underwhelming.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 11 2014 00:56 GMT
#62
A toffees interview with USH that sheds some light on the changes that happened in Nyx Assassins


tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7048 Posts
December 20 2014 22:28 GMT
#63
So apparently SNA is now playing under the name FireDota with the roster of USH, TC, ixmike, Fogged, and FLUFFNSTUFF.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 20 2014 22:40 GMT
#64
Did Fluff write a new manifesto for the second incarnation of Fire?
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-20 23:59:45
December 20 2014 23:53 GMT
#65
On December 21 2014 07:40 Daralii wrote:
Did Fluff write a new manifesto for the second incarnation of Fire?

rofl. I'm going to be a bit sad if this is where Fogged ends up, and a bit sad for whitebeard. Feels like a team that just doesn't have a high enough ceiling (assuming USH is temporary). Fogged's still playing under standin tag though.
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
December 21 2014 00:30 GMT
#66
On December 21 2014 08:53 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 07:40 Daralii wrote:
Did Fluff write a new manifesto for the second incarnation of Fire?

rofl. I'm going to be a bit sad if this is where Fogged ends up, and a bit sad for whitebeard. Feels like a team that just doesn't have a high enough ceiling (assuming USH is temporary). Fogged's still playing under standin tag though.

To be fair, everyone on the team except for Fluff has standin tags.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 21 2014 02:06 GMT
#67
Also, who are USH and Fogged going to team up with that 1) is even playing right now and 2) has even a reasonable shot of staying together.

At least with TC/Fluff/Mike you know that core isn't going anywhere and that USH has worked well with them in the past. Fogged is also 100% legit and I would be ridiculously excited if he were to play on that team.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-21 02:28:51
December 21 2014 02:13 GMT
#68
On December 21 2014 11:06 Jinxed wrote:
Also, who are USH and Fogged going to team up with that 1) is even playing right now and 2) has even a reasonable shot of staying together.

At least with TC/Fluff/Mike you know that core isn't going anywhere and that USH has worked well with them in the past. Fogged is also 100% legit and I would be ridiculously excited if he were to play on that team.

If USH comes back it's a different story. Brax on that team just feels like an inevitable fail, but I have no idea how committed they are to having him on the team.

EDIT: Fluffs tweets make it sound like it is probably the new roster with USH TC Mike Fogged Fluff
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 21 2014 02:34 GMT
#69
Yeah, I agree that Brax and the rest wasn't that great. I like Brax and think that he's good, but I don't think he works with TC and the rest.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
December 21 2014 03:43 GMT
#70
Heh. A team with the potential to hit just tier 2 status. At least there's no more brax, but why no whitebeard. Think he was the beat performing player.
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 21 2014 05:15 GMT
#71
On December 21 2014 11:13 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2014 11:06 Jinxed wrote:
Also, who are USH and Fogged going to team up with that 1) is even playing right now and 2) has even a reasonable shot of staying together.

At least with TC/Fluff/Mike you know that core isn't going anywhere and that USH has worked well with them in the past. Fogged is also 100% legit and I would be ridiculously excited if he were to play on that team.

If USH comes back it's a different story. Brax on that team just feels like an inevitable fail, but I have no idea how committed they are to having him on the team.

EDIT: Fluffs tweets make it sound like it is probably the new roster with USH TC Mike Fogged Fluff

Ush made a similar tweet. So how long until this roster gets picked up by CoL, then dumped and picked up by Liquid?
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sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
December 21 2014 08:15 GMT
#72
how do two people get kicked from this team and neither of them are ixmike is my question
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Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
December 21 2014 09:05 GMT
#73
Enjoying playing with people is kinda a big deal too. Clearly TC, Fluff and Mike have a thing going
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 22 2014 02:02 GMT
#74
On December 21 2014 18:05 Zealos wrote:
Enjoying playing with people is kinda a big deal too. Clearly TC, Fluff and Mike have a thing going


Yeah, this part seems pretty clear. And tbh Fire/SNA have proved time and time again like it or not that they're the second best team in North America, or at least the most consistent team besides EG in the region. (probably not the most balanced of statements since I'm a TC fan(chillest of all streams)).
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Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
December 22 2014 02:12 GMT
#75
I'm just glad that tc is back in mid, ush is back to carry and brax is gone. It's going to be 45 mins or more of farming kind of games, but at least there's no more of brax puck walking into fog of war and getting decimated by 4 people.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
December 22 2014 02:47 GMT
#76
Congrats and cya in kiev <3
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 22 2014 02:57 GMT
#77
Hopefully they can do well when other teams don't shoot themselves in the foot with drafts. Drafting morphling into et and disruptor? Easy MMR for Fire.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 07:04:07
December 22 2014 07:03 GMT
#78
Fogged and USH are on the team now not just standing in.

Brax is a really great player and a swell guy there's no need to be flamers ;_;
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shizaep
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2920 Posts
December 22 2014 07:33 GMT
#79
I definitely think with Fogged on the team, this team can start putting up more of a LAN presence.

they already qualified for SL11 I think, I definitely want to see more of them
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Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
December 22 2014 13:26 GMT
#80
On December 22 2014 16:03 harodihg wrote:
Fogged and USH are on the team now not just standing in.

Brax is a really great player and a swell guy there's no need to be flamers ;_;

No diss intended, I just felt replacing ush with brax then bumping tc to carry was a demotion. Ideally I would like brax over ixmike, but we all know thats not gonna happen. Also awfully disappointed that WB got cut, he was really impressive.

Also-- wheres my sna/fire flair, liquid?
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-22 17:40:07
December 22 2014 17:37 GMT
#81
ixmike needs to go. He's a freaking burden on the team. Or at the very least he needs to get to 7k mmr, and increase his personal skill so that he doesn't feed like a maniac in every game vs decent teams. You can't hope to become a T1 team with a player who can't even reach 5.5k MMR.

The only exception to this I have seen in Bone7, but the dude has proven himself as a world class offlaner in many games and tournaments.
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
December 22 2014 19:43 GMT
#82
ixmike has been over 5.5k in the past just for the record
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MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
December 22 2014 21:06 GMT
#83
Pls be TeamLiquid
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 22 2014 22:24 GMT
#84
Wonder how likely they might get picked up by Navi if they win starladder. Navi said they want back into the NA scene.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 22 2014 23:15 GMT
#85
On December 23 2014 06:06 MirageTaN wrote:
Pls be TeamLiquid

Won't happen; Fluff is still salty from before and I can't see TL looking at this team and seeing a ton of potential. I love Fogged, USH, TC combo but mike offlane is still pretty bad (it looks better in NA games). Fluff will thrive in this situation until the expectations get higher (probably when NaVi come calling).
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
December 22 2014 23:21 GMT
#86
On December 23 2014 02:37 Piledriver wrote:
ixmike needs to go. He's a freaking burden on the team. Or at the very least he needs to get to 7k mmr, and increase his personal skill so that he doesn't feed like a maniac in every game vs decent teams. You can't hope to become a T1 team with a player who can't even reach 5.5k MMR.

The only exception to this I have seen in Bone7, but the dude has proven himself as a world class offlaner in many games and tournaments.

bone7 is 6.5k on main and like 5.8k on the account that he spams blink euls shadow fiend on...
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
December 22 2014 23:24 GMT
#87
On December 23 2014 08:15 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 06:06 MirageTaN wrote:
Pls be TeamLiquid

Won't happen; Fluff is still salty from before and I can't see TL looking at this team and seeing a ton of potential. I love Fogged, USH, TC combo but mike offlane is still pretty bad (it looks better in NA games). Fluff will thrive in this situation until the expectations get higher (probably when NaVi come calling).

dont think fluff is salty from before
think he said there's nothing wrong what happened but he says he wants a team that will promote players better
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 23 2014 00:04 GMT
#88
On December 23 2014 08:24 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2014 08:15 giftdgecko wrote:
On December 23 2014 06:06 MirageTaN wrote:
Pls be TeamLiquid

Won't happen; Fluff is still salty from before and I can't see TL looking at this team and seeing a ton of potential. I love Fogged, USH, TC combo but mike offlane is still pretty bad (it looks better in NA games). Fluff will thrive in this situation until the expectations get higher (probably when NaVi come calling).

dont think fluff is salty from before
think he said there's nothing wrong what happened but he says he wants a team that will promote players better

I remember the interview you are talking about; he said he wasn't upset but either way I don't see him ever going back to work for TL again.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 00:14:14
December 23 2014 00:07 GMT
#89
Also-- wheres my sna/fire flair, liquid?

Gave the logo on Liquipedia a go.

png:
[image loading]
example:
[image loading]

Dunno if they're likely to be used but was putting off studying and needed something to do
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 01:41:38
December 23 2014 01:02 GMT
#90
While we're at it can we change the OP for this thread so it has more info

[image loading]


(Wiki)FIRE




ROSTER


us Chris "(Wiki)USH" Usher [image loading]
ca Tyler "(Wiki)TC" Cook [image loading]
us Michael "(Wiki)ixmike88" Ghannam [image loading]
us Ioannis "(Wiki)Fogged" Loucas [image loading]
us Brian "(Wiki)FLUFFNSTUFF" Lee [image loading]




ACHIEVEMENTS

[image loading](Wiki)Star Ladder Star Series/Season 11/Americas

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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 23 2014 02:25 GMT
#91
That's really good. Added it to the OP.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
December 23 2014 02:57 GMT
#92
Thanks!
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harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
December 23 2014 03:22 GMT
#93
go LightTemplar!!
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 23 2014 07:46 GMT
#94
On December 23 2014 02:37 Piledriver wrote:
ixmike needs to go.


I think this is very unlikely to happen, especially considering how the atmosphere on Liquid ended up being after they started parting with their original players and started replacing them with individually better players.

They're probably pretty determined to stick together this time.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
December 23 2014 09:11 GMT
#95
ixmike gets so much flak I feel obligated to cheer for him doing well in his games. Compared to his old games in offlane he's playing WAY better
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 23 2014 09:48 GMT
#96
I definitely cheer for Mike as well. I don't need all my favorite players to be perfect.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
December 23 2014 10:42 GMT
#97
How did they do vs Root ? are they T1 level yet at the moment ?
this is a quote
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 23 2014 11:48 GMT
#98
I mean they pretty much dismantled them, but root is literally just a bunch of pub scrubs. We'll see how they do against real teams soon.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
December 23 2014 11:55 GMT
#99
I hope they do well. EG is pretty much the only threat in NA i feel.
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
December 23 2014 14:28 GMT
#100
Well right now in general there is a pretty big disparity between the top teams and the next level. C9 EG and secret are at another level when compared to everyone else.

If Fire could get to even a VP level that would be good. As it stands now though I'm not sure they can go even with the T2 euro teams. We'll see how they do at Starladder though.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
December 23 2014 15:56 GMT
#101
On December 23 2014 19:42 goody153 wrote:
How did they do vs Root ? are they T1 level yet at the moment ?

Like Jinxed said, they are probably the best team outside of EG in NA. But if you are doing tiers, they aren't close to T1. EG, Secret, VG, and a practiced NB are T1 (C9 is arguably there depending on the day). Them getting on NaVi or VP's level would be good and it seems possible if things click (and mike continues to improve). They could be the first legitimate T2 team NA has had in a while
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
December 23 2014 16:27 GMT
#102
Are they good as Peru stack in Not Today?
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reDicE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1020 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-23 17:45:22
December 23 2014 17:44 GMT
#103
On December 24 2014 01:27 TanGeng wrote:
Are they good as Peru stack in Not Today?

Not Today went 1-6 in SL11, coming in last.

Starting from The Summit, they've only won a single game (That game being the game versus Team Tinker at the Summit itself), at least according to their gosugamers page.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
December 29 2014 13:19 GMT
#104
I wonder if theres any chance that Fire go to D2L finals now that Empire have pulled out and I don't know if VPP (next placed) will get visas in time. Could be interesting.
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
December 29 2014 13:26 GMT
#105
On December 29 2014 22:19 LightTemplar wrote:
I wonder if theres any chance that Fire go to D2L finals now that Empire have pulled out and I don't know if VPP (next placed) will get visas in time. Could be interesting.

VPP are confirmed already.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
December 29 2014 13:51 GMT
#106
Aw, ok. Starladder in 2 weeks at least
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nassij
Profile Joined December 2014
5 Posts
January 02 2015 18:37 GMT
#107
Fluff: 'The entire pool is open for position 4 supports'

Shortly after the rebirth of Team Fire, GosuGamers was able to talk to support player Brian 'Fluffnstuff' Lee to talk about his past year, his experience with Team Liquid but even more so about Team Fire, their TI5 aspirations and the new roster. Fluffnstuff also shares his opinion on the new patch and old innovations of his.


http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/4074-fluff-the-entire-pool-is-open-for-position-4-supports
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
January 02 2015 19:29 GMT
#108
Pretty good interview. I felt it was kind of rehashing old ground quite a bit though.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-05 21:08:36
January 05 2015 20:32 GMT
#109
Next game



[image loading]
(Wiki)Dota 2 Asia Championships/North America

(Wiki)Fire vs (Wiki)Complexity

[image loading] twitch.tv/beyondthesummit



Thought I'd give this a go, no idea if the game will be streamed on bts but they are the official english broadcasters.

Edit: yup LD + Merlini cast is up on bts
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Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
January 16 2015 17:20 GMT
#110
Pushing c9 to five games (technically 4 games, 2-2), and now winning their first lan match, this team is steadily, albeit slowly, improving. Ixmike is still inconsistent, they still get ridiculously outdrafted, and early aggression is still a problem. But not as bad as before.

Also, TC is a rock, ush has tremendous upside, fogged is an additional voice ingame, and their teamfights are super solid. I feel that they are not only the undisputed 2nd best NA team, but can give the new EG a run for their money.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 16 2015 17:22 GMT
#111
mike looks like a god on bat and average nadoto pub on every other hero
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Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
January 16 2015 17:33 GMT
#112
His clockwerk and spirit breaker are pretty good. I think he excels at heroes that go yolo and die. Creating space and whatnot.

Also his twitter game is topnotch.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 20:03:47
January 16 2015 20:03 GMT
#113
[image loading]
Nice games today. Gl vs VPP tomorrow
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isospeedrix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
January 17 2015 01:27 GMT
#114
plEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BEAT VP TOMORROW PLS
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 17 2015 04:38 GMT
#115
On January 17 2015 10:27 isospeedrix wrote:
plEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BEAT VP TOMORROW PLS


I believe Fire, kick some ass!
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Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
January 17 2015 07:36 GMT
#116
GO FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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SleepyDreams
Profile Joined July 2012
600 Posts
January 17 2015 09:10 GMT
#117
OK I have a problem with TC as well as team FIRE. IDK who their drafter is but TC going midas on troll and last pick mirana for fluff... You either pick mirana, play aggressive early game and not go midas or you dont last pick a fucking mirana if you plan on going late game with a midas. TC needs to learn to take risks and stop resorting to his comfort farm safely and not have any game impact ways.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 17 2015 22:47 GMT
#118
On January 17 2015 18:10 SleepyDreams wrote:
OK I have a problem with TC as well as team FIRE. IDK who their drafter is but TC going midas on troll and last pick mirana for fluff... You either pick mirana, play aggressive early game and not go midas or you dont last pick a fucking mirana if you plan on going late game with a midas. TC needs to learn to take risks and stop resorting to his comfort farm safely and not have any game impact ways.


From what I read, TC is the drafter and fluff is the in-game captain.
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
January 18 2015 02:54 GMT
#119
Someone needs to make a tier list because some of this shit is confusing
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
January 18 2015 04:46 GMT
#120
On January 18 2015 11:54 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Someone needs to make a tier list because some of this shit is confusing

That would involve people agreeing on the qualifiers and then what each team is realistically capable of, which I don't ever see happening.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
January 18 2015 05:00 GMT
#121
On January 18 2015 13:46 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 11:54 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Someone needs to make a tier list because some of this shit is confusing

That would involve people agreeing on the qualifiers and then what each team is realistically capable of, which I don't ever see happening.

Would be a lot easier if people didn't tack on weird caveats like "can beat Tier 1 teams" or "is a team of Tier 1 players who just need X".

But FIRE basically falls into "will never get top 4 at a major tournament, will never get a direct invite, and wouldn't consistently get a qualifier spot if there were other decent teams in their region", whatever Tier that would fall under.
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Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
January 18 2015 06:07 GMT
#122
On January 18 2015 14:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 13:46 giftdgecko wrote:
On January 18 2015 11:54 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Someone needs to make a tier list because some of this shit is confusing

That would involve people agreeing on the qualifiers and then what each team is realistically capable of, which I don't ever see happening.

Would be a lot easier if people didn't tack on weird caveats like "can beat Tier 1 teams" or "is a team of Tier 1 players who just need X".

But FIRE basically falls into "will never get top 4 at a major tournament, will never get a direct invite, and wouldn't consistently get a qualifier spot if there were other decent teams in their region", whatever Tier that would fall under.

How about a system where a team is rated based on their logos
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-18 06:22:11
January 18 2015 06:22 GMT
#123
Wo1fwood can help www.teamliquid.net
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
January 18 2015 09:07 GMT
#124
On January 18 2015 15:07 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 14:00 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 18 2015 13:46 giftdgecko wrote:
On January 18 2015 11:54 Howie_Dewitt wrote:
Someone needs to make a tier list because some of this shit is confusing

That would involve people agreeing on the qualifiers and then what each team is realistically capable of, which I don't ever see happening.

Would be a lot easier if people didn't tack on weird caveats like "can beat Tier 1 teams" or "is a team of Tier 1 players who just need X".

But FIRE basically falls into "will never get top 4 at a major tournament, will never get a direct invite, and wouldn't consistently get a qualifier spot if there were other decent teams in their region", whatever Tier that would fall under.

How about a system where a team is rated based on their logos

pretty sure VP crushes everyone in that case
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-19 12:02:38
January 19 2015 11:21 GMT
#125
the hunter and the face of Fire



"I have my mustache since i was young and never really shaved it."

"I like to flame everyone just for fun" lol

"I think we'll probably play in the qualifiers we won't be invited over EG"

interesting mike thinks the big western 3 didn't got worse after the western reshuffle for some reason .. he also thinks NA dota is ok and the hate is kinda unfair ..

he thinks it's unfair comparing it to EU since EU is kinda huge and they usually have the better time for playing dota(since generally the games play out in night on EU so they can juggle between work and dota)

fluff changed the name to Fire since it sounded more professional and teams take them more seriously .. pubs are really really different from competitive scrimming (i somehow hear this all the time from pros)

i actually thought the interview is gonna be trolly but he did the interview legit
this is a quote
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
January 21 2015 12:46 GMT
#126
[image loading]
New team fire roster (ignore the shirts)
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NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
January 21 2015 14:02 GMT
#127
This roster can win TI5 ez.
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
January 23 2015 12:29 GMT
#128
Has there been any definitive answer given by anyone as to why Brax is no longer with the team? I see in this thread that people didn't think that Brax was a good fit with TC and the rest of the team, but it all seemed to be opinion/analysis. Has Brax or anyone from Fire said anything concrete about this?
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sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
January 30 2015 17:23 GMT
#129
TC left fire, confirmed on his stream
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
January 30 2015 17:34 GMT
#130
reasons or ideas why given?
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
January 30 2015 20:28 GMT
#131
Damn, why did he quit? It's hard to imagine him having problems with a teammate or something like that. Hopefully he found another team.
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 31 2015 00:53 GMT
#132
he said on his stream that the team was experiencing issues and he left voluntarily

someone else said he wanted to be teamless for a bit but part of me thinks that he may consider joining demon's team? idk wild speculation
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sickoota
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada918 Posts
January 31 2015 02:28 GMT
#133
He was pretty vague, he mentioned role issues (no one wanted to carry) and also that they werent really getting much results
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 31 2015 03:30 GMT
#134
On January 31 2015 11:28 sickoota wrote:
He was pretty vague, he mentioned role issues (no one wanted to carry) and also that they werent really getting much results


No one wanted to carry? Never thought I'd hear those 5 words in that exact order.

People in NA seem to be treating Dota 2 like a complete game as opposed to a profession. Seems like players are able to function together, and whenever there is a problem, they split up. Just like Teamliquid, Navi.US, every rendition of SNA... And well, besides that, there's never been any other NA team that has survived for any length of time and had decent success.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-02 23:15:49
January 31 2015 23:50 GMT
#135
I feel like they lost their best player, and its showing now. Losing to pain 2 - 0. Brax hasn't had a strong showing in many months as well.

Ush has potential, but I feel moving him around in roles like this isn't beneficial.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
February 05 2015 15:45 GMT
#136
Guess OP needs changing now
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
February 07 2015 01:59 GMT
#137
Roster changes confirmed by Fluff. Mike and Fogged out, 7ckingmad, Brax, "Classic" Jimmy Ho in.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2v1r5n/after_match_vs_voidboys_fluff_confirms_demon/
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 07 2015 04:17 GMT
#138
why brax tho lol
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
February 07 2015 05:21 GMT
#139
Yea I would have kept fogged over brax. Oh well.
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Tephus
Profile Joined May 2011
Cascadia1753 Posts
February 17 2015 22:00 GMT
#140
New lineup isn't doing so well... I actually prefer the games they had with whitebeard in for mad.
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 17 2015 22:31 GMT
#141
On February 18 2015 07:00 Tephus wrote:
New lineup isn't doing so well... I actually prefer the games they had with whitebeard in for mad.


The comeback last night vs complexity was great and whitebeard was amazing on the Enigma. I wish they would bring him back too but I guess there might be something going on we don't know about.
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 18 2015 00:01 GMT
#142
Tiny Smash indeed.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
February 18 2015 03:44 GMT
#143
In an interview with Toffees USH said he didnt' get along with WB and essentially made them choose one or the other (this was prior to him leaving the first time).
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-19 16:09:59
February 19 2015 16:06 GMT
#144
On February 18 2015 07:31 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2015 07:00 Tephus wrote:
New lineup isn't doing so well... I actually prefer the games they had with whitebeard in for mad.


The comeback last night vs complexity was great and whitebeard was amazing on the Enigma. I wish they would bring him back too but I guess there might be something going on we don't know about.


Whitebeard is probably the best support NA IMHO (outside of EG of course). He impressed me in every single game he played during TI4 NA qualies, literally carrying the old SNA on the back of his support play (his disruptor was really something else) . Its a pity that there are irreconcilable differences between Ush and him, which caused Ush to leave immediately after ESL NY. And when Ush returned back to team fire, it was on the condition that Whitebeard be removed from the team.

A travesty really.

+ Show Spoiler +

I wouldn't mind if C9 picked up whitebeard instead of Bone7 and moved Misery to offlane instead.


Envy fan since NTH.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 20:54:18
February 20 2015 20:54 GMT
#145
disbanded

User was warned for this post
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 20 2015 21:01 GMT
#146
?

User was warned for this post
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-20 21:27:01
February 20 2015 21:10 GMT
#147
Seems to be a rumor going around that they are disbanding. They just dropped from DotaPit

http://www.thescoreesports.com/dota2/news/371

Demon says they aren't disbanding.

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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
February 21 2015 00:05 GMT
#148
Smells like a coup to me.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
February 22 2015 09:52 GMT
#149
Any idea what is going on with the name change?
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
February 22 2015 10:56 GMT
#150
fluff mike wb bsj and dragonfist
© Current year.
JD.
Profile Joined September 2014
Australia250 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 12:24:25
February 22 2015 12:24 GMT
#151
On February 22 2015 19:56 CorsairHero wrote:
fluff mike wb bsj and dragonfist


To clarify what this guy is saying, the quoted squad (wb = whitebeard, bsj = bananaslamjamma) is listed under Team FIRE for ESL Qualifier.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 12:32:10
February 22 2015 12:31 GMT
#152
Ooh, looking forward to see how Banana will do. I've been addicted to his stream lately (although it's kind of gone down in quality since the first few days)
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
February 22 2015 22:40 GMT
#153
Dragonfist still number 1 in america? So first pick TA 24/7 now eh?
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 14:31:47
August 24 2015 14:04 GMT
#154
We're back boys <3

New Roster

Jeyo

747

Moo

Fluff

Whitebeard

Blitz to sub

www.dota2.com/majorsregistration/list
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
wxyLkz
Profile Joined August 2015
210 Posts
August 24 2015 14:42 GMT
#155
what will Jeyo play?
he played carry for team Rave
too bad they have to disband due to unfortunate events
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
August 24 2015 14:53 GMT
#156
On August 24 2015 23:42 wxyLkz wrote:
what will Jeyo play?
he played carry for team Rave
too bad they have to disband due to unfortunate events

they didn't disband iirc

they went full pinoy roster
this is a quote
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
August 24 2015 14:56 GMT
#157
I'd guess that the farm priority is as listed if everybody plays their most recent roles.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
wxyLkz
Profile Joined August 2015
210 Posts
August 24 2015 14:59 GMT
#158
rave is an all pinoy team
Jeyo is filipino
though NB is not but he leaves in PH
cast chrissy and ryoyr are now in PH with a new team MSI Evo
so what do we call rave now?
inactive maybe?
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44148 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 15:10:31
August 24 2015 15:08 GMT
#159
I didn't mean the nationality. I meant in which scene they came from . (well i guess we can count 3 of them from KR doto and the 2 from NA)

If they are playing with the other pinoy players they're prolly playing against pinoy teams mostly. It's like similar to TeamTinker at one point where they were playing on NA servers and NA teams.
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spamduck101
Profile Joined August 2015
United States8 Posts
August 24 2015 16:35 GMT
#160
I'm totally on board with this roster. Fluff rocks. Moo was totally legit with Root. Whitebeard disruptor is super fun. I don't really know 747/Jeyo but sounds good to me.
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
August 24 2015 19:13 GMT
#161
pretty sure 747 plays mid in high mmr bracket
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spamduck101
Profile Joined August 2015
United States8 Posts
August 24 2015 23:11 GMT
#162
On August 24 2015 23:42 wxyLkz wrote:
what will Jeyo play?
he played carry for team Rave


Fluff says Jeyo will carry.

http://ask.fm/FluffDota/answer/132549897134
wxyLkz
Profile Joined August 2015
210 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 06:31:43
August 25 2015 06:31 GMT
#163
yeah boy jeyo for carry
hope he can play for an all filipino team again
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 22:39:46
August 25 2015 22:26 GMT
#164
This new team (as well as Digital Chaos) includes players from both ROOT and Summer's Rift. What does that mean for the future of either of those teams? Did I miss something about replacements or either team disbanding?




FYI/ATTN MODS:

1. I got a message from Beirut asking to update the OP but I no longer have edit privileges so someone else will have to do it.

2. Also, Fire and Digital Chaos have yet to be added to the drop-down menu in the calendar (unless I missed them).

3. We now have 5 non-EG NA teams (that I'm aware of at least - FIRE, ROOT, Archon, Summer's Rift, and Chaos). Aside from the fact that I'm sure within a matter of days the rosters will switch entirely, can we get some more "favorite team" signature graphics please?!?!?! Or maybe an American Flag or American/Canadian flag combo to support NA DOTA in general??
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 22:43:25
August 25 2015 22:42 GMT
#165
On August 26 2015 07:26 The Binary Son wrote:
This new team (as well as Digital Chaos) includes players from both ROOT and Summer's Rift. What does that mean for the future of either of those teams? Did I miss something about replacements or either team disbanding?




FYI/ATTN MODS:

1. I got a message from Beirut asking to update the OP but I no longer have edit privileges so someone else will have to do it.

2. Also, Fire and Digital Chaos have yet to be added to the drop-down menu in the calendar (unless I missed them).

3. We now have 5 non-EG NA teams (that I'm aware of at least - FIRE, ROOT, Archon, Summer's Rift, and Chaos). Aside from the fact that I'm sure within a matter of days the rosters will switch entirely, can we get some more "favorite team" signature graphics please?!?!?! Or maybe an American Flag or American/Canadian flag combo to support NA DOTA in general??

refreshed the edit window, you should be able to edit now

(heyoka did too lol hopefully I post before him woo~)

I'll bug folks about graphics and adding the teams to the dropdown
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Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 23:00:11
August 25 2015 22:57 GMT
#166
On August 26 2015 07:42 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 07:26 The Binary Son wrote:
This new team (as well as Digital Chaos) includes players from both ROOT and Summer's Rift. What does that mean for the future of either of those teams? Did I miss something about replacements or either team disbanding?




FYI/ATTN MODS:

1. I got a message from Beirut asking to update the OP but I no longer have edit privileges so someone else will have to do it.

2. Also, Fire and Digital Chaos have yet to be added to the drop-down menu in the calendar (unless I missed them).

3. We now have 5 non-EG NA teams (that I'm aware of at least - FIRE, ROOT, Archon, Summer's Rift, and Chaos). Aside from the fact that I'm sure within a matter of days the rosters will switch entirely, can we get some more "favorite team" signature graphics please?!?!?! Or maybe an American Flag or American/Canadian flag combo to support NA DOTA in general??

refreshed the edit window, you should be able to edit now

(heyoka did too lol hopefully I post before him woo~)

I'll bug folks about graphics and adding the teams to the dropdown


Thanks! I was just pm'ing Heyoka ha.

On August 26 2015 07:26 The Binary Son wrote:
This new team (as well as Digital Chaos) includes players from both ROOT and Summer's Rift. What does that mean for the future of either of those teams? Did I miss something about replacements or either team disbanding?


I believe both teams are disbanded according to Monkeys_Forever (Root) and Demon (Summer's Rift).
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
August 25 2015 23:00 GMT
#167
OP is updated let me know if I messed anything up.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
August 26 2015 01:06 GMT
#168
747's wiki link doesnt go anywhere but thats a wiki thing. Everything else looks correct to the best of my knowledge. Maybe make it clearer that blitz is a sub? Thanks for updating this, was going to request it earlier today.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
August 26 2015 06:20 GMT
#169
On August 26 2015 10:06 LightTemplar wrote:
747's wiki link doesnt go anywhere but thats a wiki thing. Everything else looks correct to the best of my knowledge. Maybe make it clearer that blitz is a sub? Thanks for updating this, was going to request it earlier today.


Done. Thanks!
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 11:11:15
September 09 2015 11:08 GMT
#170
1. Updated OP to include Gypsy as a sub per their liquidpedia page.

2. ATTN MODS: FIRE has been and will be playing games that are on this site's calendar, but instead of their team name for their games it just says "Other," and FIRE is not listed in the calendar team drop down menu yet.

3. ATTN MODS: On FIRE's liquidpedia page, there is a box on the right hand side that lists their Upcoming Matches. Is there a way I (or someone) can embed that box into the OP of this thread?
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reDicE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1020 Posts
September 09 2015 12:30 GMT
#171
Gypsy/Mihai is from Canada.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mihai
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 09 2015 13:23 GMT
#172
On September 09 2015 20:08 The Binary Son wrote:
1. Updated OP to include Gypsy as a sub per their liquidpedia page.

2. ATTN MODS: FIRE has been and will be playing games that are on this site's calendar, but instead of their team name for their games it just says "Other," and FIRE is not listed in the calendar team drop down menu yet.

3. ATTN MODS: On FIRE's liquidpedia page, there is a box on the right hand side that lists their Upcoming Matches. Is there a way I (or someone) can embed that box into the OP of this thread?

That third point is really interesting. We already do something like that for brackets on LR threads so it may be possible.

I'll have to ask people with more knowledge when I get home but till then feel free to message TheEmulator about it.

Also for the second point I believe we are waiting for the roster lock, but they should be added soon.
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4941 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-09 15:00:59
September 09 2015 15:00 GMT
#173
it is possible to embed that box, but you would need html rights to do it (source: I created the bracket embeds)
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 09 2015 15:08 GMT
#174
On September 10 2015 00:00 FO-nTTaX wrote:
it is possible to embed that box, but you would need html rights to do it (source: I created the bracket embeds)


While you didn't mention it, I heard you drop the mic after that post. HAHAHAHA
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 09 2015 15:16 GMT
#175
On September 09 2015 21:30 reDicE wrote:
Gypsy/Mihai is from Canada.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Mihai


Fixed/updated. Thanks!
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4941 Posts
September 09 2015 16:35 GMT
#176
On September 10 2015 00:08 The Binary Son wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 00:00 FO-nTTaX wrote:
it is possible to embed that box, but you would need html rights to do it (source: I created the bracket embeds)


While you didn't mention it, I heard you drop the mic after that post. HAHAHAHA

What?
I'm still fixing the occasional bug with it, and it is very much working
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 09 2015 20:28 GMT
#177
On September 10 2015 01:35 FO-nTTaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 00:08 The Binary Son wrote:
On September 10 2015 00:00 FO-nTTaX wrote:
it is possible to embed that box, but you would need html rights to do it (source: I created the bracket embeds)


While you didn't mention it, I heard you drop the mic after that post. HAHAHAHA

What?
I'm still fixing the occasional bug with it, and it is very much working



No I didn't mean that, I just imagined you dropping the microphone after mentioning how you created the bracket embeds. Just fooling around. Thanks for doing it!
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FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4941 Posts
September 10 2015 00:18 GMT
#178
oh i misunderstood then, my bad

anyhow, keep going Team FIRE
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The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
September 10 2015 23:50 GMT
#179
Great win by TEAM FIRE!!!

... Hey by the way, can we get some Team Fire sig flair???
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
September 11 2015 00:03 GMT
#180
Yeh that game was onesided as hell. I was worried after their series earlier this week but that looked convincing.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
September 11 2015 03:32 GMT
#181
747 is a weak weak link. If TC had stayed with Fluff I think that Fire would be the most legit post TI-shuffle NA team.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
September 11 2015 17:47 GMT
#182
On September 11 2015 12:32 ampson wrote:
747 is a weak weak link. If TC had stayed with Fluff I think that Fire would be the most legit post TI-shuffle NA team.

I'm assuming you mean behind EG?
spamduck101
Profile Joined August 2015
United States8 Posts
September 18 2015 02:42 GMT
#183
Oh man they did it:


They're off to ESL New York!
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 18 2015 02:43 GMT
#184
On September 18 2015 11:42 spamduck101 wrote:
Oh man they did it: https://twitter.com/FireEsports/status/644681643345580032

They're off to ESL New York!


Yes best of luck to our new Team Liquid.

I kid, I kid, though awesome job and hope they do well in NYC.

Though on the topic, who would sponsor them from the America's that doesn't already have a team? Anyone left or maybe someone gets back into dota 2 like dignitas or someone completely new.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
September 18 2015 02:54 GMT
#185
On September 18 2015 11:43 the bear jew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 11:42 spamduck101 wrote:
Oh man they did it: https://twitter.com/FireEsports/status/644681643345580032

They're off to ESL New York!


Yes best of luck to our new Team Liquid.

I kid, I kid, though awesome job and hope they do well in NYC.

Though on the topic, who would sponsor them from the America's that doesn't already have a team? Anyone left or maybe someone gets back into dota 2 like dignitas or someone completely new.

Depends on what they want. Moo and WB have improved a lot over the last year. Jeyo and Fluff are working well together. 747 still is the weak link imo but until the next patch it's hard to make a real decision on him. Maybe Archon takes a look at them, someone has to be after taking down Col and DC the way they did.
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 18 2015 02:57 GMT
#186
On September 18 2015 11:54 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2015 11:43 the bear jew wrote:
On September 18 2015 11:42 spamduck101 wrote:
Oh man they did it: https://twitter.com/FireEsports/status/644681643345580032

They're off to ESL New York!


Yes best of luck to our new Team Liquid.

I kid, I kid, though awesome job and hope they do well in NYC.

Though on the topic, who would sponsor them from the America's that doesn't already have a team? Anyone left or maybe someone gets back into dota 2 like dignitas or someone completely new.

Depends on what they want. Moo and WB have improved a lot over the last year. Jeyo and Fluff are working well together. 747 still is the weak link imo but until the next patch it's hard to make a real decision on him. Maybe Archon takes a look at them, someone has to be after taking down Col and DC the way they did.


ESL is gonna be a really tough tournament. Looks pretty damn stacked, Fire is gonna have their work cut out for themselves.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
September 18 2015 11:43 GMT
#187
For sure, with ESL's format its going to be exceptionaly tough for Fire, its a huge oppurtunity to prove themselves though, hopefully they do well.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
Krishan.bif
Profile Joined December 2013
Philippines491 Posts
September 22 2015 06:14 GMT
#188
Moo is playing out of his goddamn kind, and jeyo is getting shit done. Losing monkeys and fun and getting wb and jeyo is a hell of an upgrade. Tc jumped ship way too soon, if he was in this lineup they'd be balling. Can't wait for their eventual matchup with c9 so we can crown the official EG whipping team. Go nadota!
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
September 22 2015 09:51 GMT
#189
Its kind of impressive they haven't matched up with C9 yet since the shuffle, gonna be interesting to see when it comes up only real chance is MLG finals though. That last game against unknown was pretty..interesting.
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
December 07 2015 10:36 GMT
#190
Just saw this thread got renamed for Team Archon. Thanks Mods!! Now if we can just get a sig flair for them...
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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
January 10 2016 05:24 GMT
#191
Congrats on going to the Shanghai Major!

I remember cheering for Whitebeard and Fluff in NYC when they were Sneaky Nyx Assassins. I won't be going to China but I will be rooting for you guys!
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ampson
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2355 Posts
January 10 2016 05:58 GMT
#192
Always happy to see fluff do well and I'm a fan of everyone on this squad. Hoping for big things in Shanghai to show the strength of stable NA dota.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
January 10 2016 21:15 GMT
#193
Actually so happy for fluff and the team <3
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6592 Posts
January 10 2016 21:58 GMT
#194
grats to Archon and Monkeys/Moo/Fluff in particular really happy for em
LiquidDota Staff
Souldivnr
Profile Joined September 2015
Cuba127 Posts
January 11 2016 19:59 GMT
#195
Congrats to Team Archon!!
"Puppey is always the BOSS"- XBOCT 2016
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
January 11 2016 21:47 GMT
#196
the merging is complete
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-19 23:08:10
March 19 2016 23:01 GMT
#197
So do we move this thread back to being a Fire thread? Do we make a new Fire thread? NA doto pls.

Fluff's Current Team Discussion Thread?
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
March 23 2016 17:03 GMT
#198
On March 20 2016 08:01 LightTemplar wrote:
So do we move this thread back to being a Fire thread? Do we make a new Fire thread? NA doto pls.

Fluff's Current Team Discussion Thread?


Clutch question. Was gonna ask the same thing. Can't remember if there's a Fire thread already or if it was this one.
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LightTemplar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Ireland481 Posts
March 23 2016 20:48 GMT
#199
This used to be the Fire thread and before that the Sneaky Nyx Assassins thread
"Thoughts are always there, the mind can't stop" - Grubby
MyaurA
Profile Joined October 2013
United States50 Posts
March 24 2016 17:30 GMT
#200
w33+Resolution?
stratyk.net
The Binary Son
Profile Joined August 2013
United States207 Posts
May 25 2017 02:44 GMT
#201
As this is also the Team Fire thread, posting here. RIP

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