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phantomlancer23
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FuzioNda1337
Sweden159 Posts
On July 10 2014 07:50 phantomlancer23 wrote: When alliance has the fp and the opponent bans wisp np they must punish them with lycan.Lycan OP and fits very well with their play style. that is not the issue, the issue is what they ban and what they pick in response to their bans and pick in first 2 stages and mid stages. how do you handle a brew? you go earlygame intiation, slardar wk like they just did this game, swm is great but he falls of flat in cc compared to other supports lategame. brew will get his bkb. Im actually fucking suprised ppl dont pick slardar, best fucking counter to brew. you intiate, if he bkb:s lategame you just sprint away with followup stun or fs to get you away, and brew ult lost. Oldschool bait that always works, and if he dont bkb he is dead. biggest bane of teams right now is op brew and how to handle him. also this low impact heroes like wisp do not work unless other 4 are really high impact heroes against most drafts nowdays, wisp work if they dont draft as they do. Just look at last game vs arrow, it was not a perfect game, im not saying arrow played well they sure did not. but if you look at that draft, compared to their other drafts against iG for an example you cannot let thru doom and brew to one team, you just cant. Many say brew is op becuse of the buff he got well yes and no, the thing that makes him so godamn op is his spirit form lift somone in the air 24/7 in a fight. doom one and lategame refresher doom another, thats 3 out of the fight 24/7. as i said somthing needs to be done about brew:s spirit lift, that is the biggest issue i have with him and always has been, before when his spirits didnt deal much dmg i was fine with it. Now there is crit and clap in pandmonium. plus that lift, thats just way to much to give to an ultimate, it just gives to much utility and damage compared to any other heroes ultimate. | ||
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Nomzter
Sweden2802 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 10 2014 17:50 Nomzter wrote: Not doing well so far :/ I hope they can turn it around It's still ok, even being freaking pissed of [A] throwing won games into dump, i can still think about bad schedule and stuff. They have all chances in the world to go 4-0 tonight and considering how is everyone dropping games to everyone, they might just skyrocket into top-6 easily. But knowing that NewBee and DK lost to Fnatic and Liquid and Titan lost to Na'Vi.NA, it makes me so salty, rofl. Even iG aren't even close to be untouchable. This TI can easily have completely random winner this way and bunch of favourites won't even make it to main event. #longliveAlliance | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
It's hilarious, how hard do i love this team but can't even get sad because i'm not emotional enough. But this loss is veeeeeery important, damn. Okay, tomorrow LGD, VG, C9 and Liquid, i can definitely see 4-0 for [A] and 0-4 as well, but if we finish 3-1, i will be satisfied. With this absolute unpredictability in tournament, i guess, something like 4 losses could be enough to even contest top-2, now Alliance have 5, if we finish with 7, we're safe. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/azJv93r.jpg?1) nice art by s4 | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
vs. LGD LGD has been off their game so far in TI. Sure they have had one of the toughest schedules yet but I really hope this game goes in favor of [A], but they cannot be underestimated. Prediction: [A] vs. C9 Alliance have been playing great against them during the time leading up to TI, beating them in both DH Summer and ESL One. A big decider in this game will not only be [A]'s draft but what EE shows up. If it's the EE clinkz for yesterday the game should easily swing in favor of [A]. If it's EE the farming machine we Loda better step up his carry game! Prediction: [A] vs. VG Vici has just been playing great this tournament, only dropping a game to NaVi, and fy's ES play yesterday was nothing short of stunning. I have a hard time seeing [A] taking this to be honest. But who knows, Vici already qualified for the next round and might feel like saving their strats and if [A] has a pocket strat ready for them anything can happen. Prediction: VG vs. Liquid This is the real heartbreaker for me. This will probably be the game that makes or breaks one of these teams. Liquid is always close to my heart and had a stellar performance in the qualifiers and during day 1. They fell off a bit yesterday but give qojqva a qojqva hero and anything can happen. Early pressure on Demon/Pegasus is a must. EGM and Akke are going to be the key players in this game. Prediction: Too close to call So agree/disagree? | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
(yes I realize Im saying this with a fnatic logo on my post) | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On July 11 2014 13:32 ForTehDarkseid wrote: You can't be theoretically safe with 7 loses. You honestly think that 10th place will have less than 7 losses? On July 11 2014 17:42 ahswtini wrote: I have real doubts if they'll make it out of groups :/ #BELIEVE On July 11 2014 16:57 Julmust wrote: So they have LGD, C9, Vici and Liquid today. vs. LGD LGD has been off their game so far in TI. Sure they have had one of the toughest schedules yet but I really hope this game goes in favor of [A], but they cannot be underestimated. Prediction: [A] vs. C9 Alliance have been playing great against them during the time leading up to TI, beating them in both DH Summer and ESL One. A big decider in this game will not only be [A]'s draft but what EE shows up. If it's the EE clinkz for yesterday the game should easily swing in favor of [A]. If it's EE the farming machine we Loda better step up his carry game! Prediction: [A] vs. VG Vici has just been playing great this tournament, only dropping a game to NaVi, and fy's ES play yesterday was nothing short of stunning. I have a hard time seeing [A] taking this to be honest. But who knows, Vici already qualified for the next round and might feel like saving their strats and if [A] has a pocket strat ready for them anything can happen. Prediction: VG vs. Liquid This is the real heartbreaker for me. This will probably be the game that makes or breaks one of these teams. Liquid is always close to my heart and had a stellar performance in the qualifiers and during day 1. They fell off a bit yesterday but give qojqva a qojqva hero and anything can happen. Early pressure on Demon/Pegasus is a must. EGM and Akke are going to be the key players in this game. Prediction: Too close to call So agree/disagree? They will stomp Liquid. I'm more worried about C9 and LGD honestly, than VG and Liquid. People overrate Liquid so hard this tournament, just ban Tinker/Furion, get Razor if you want and Liquid are done with those farm midlanes. Or push, like Na'Vi.NA did and dump them into ground. Rofl, just realised that 0 SFes were in this tournament so far. But i expect 4-0 or 3-1 with only loss to Cloud9/LGD, that's it. On July 11 2014 18:28 Julmust wrote: Yeah, if they would've won against fnatic yesterday they would've been golden in my book. But this TI. So many good teams! (yes I realize Im saying this with a fnatic logo on my post) If they won, Fnatic would have been done this tournament with Arrow, mouz and Empire. But it's ok. If Alliance don't pick Lycan this group stage, they have shot at losing no more, tbh. | ||
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Alliaria
Sweden18 Posts
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Aelfric
Turkey1496 Posts
Seriously though, they should play more tanky heroes and make other teams play their game not the other way arround. They let chinese smoke gang and they know the strategy and they decide to defend it with wasting their time on smoke to gain advantage in farm. I think thats not a good way to approach against these guys. They are extremely good at team coordination so i think they should do some teamfight control and early game snowballing kind of action. If they go for late game farming for rat i don't think they gonna do well in this. | ||
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ForTehDarkseid
8139 Posts
On July 11 2014 20:01 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: You honestly think that 10th place will have less than 7 losses? No, but there're scenarios for the tie-breakers. | ||
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
Alliance are playing lineups and styles they have NEVER played and with which they don't look comfortable. Why not go back to more familiar playing styles.. Also S4 WTF??!?! This TI S4 is really dissapointing, worst player on the team  | ||
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hifriend
China7935 Posts
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
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WakaDoDo
Sweden1183 Posts
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Belano
Sweden657 Posts
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