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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 16 2016 09:13 GMT
#1421
Yeah thats why i said after ti6 which is when Zai will return "kinda" anyway. I just want Zai to stay with EG as he good player for start and he is fun guy! But i guess if EG win ti6 then unless Fear really does want to retire there is no way any roster changes will happen for them again.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 16 2016 09:20 GMT
#1422
Hard to predict post TI6 things given that so much can happen in between. Probably Zai's first choice would be to play with the EG guys but whether EG is together or whether there is an opening for him is another question.

But one thing I'm interested in seeing is what happens with Zai before TI. His school ends around May or something so there's plenty of time to play with a team before TI to get ready. The issue is just that the last shuffle period for the top teams is after Shanghai, so Zai either has to join a team soon and then just play less events until school is mostly over and he can travel or make a stack out of leftover players for the TI quals with limited chances of succeeding.
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 09:47:46
February 16 2016 09:47 GMT
#1423
EG is in a position like Na'Vi used to be; they can recruit basically anyone they want if someone has to leave. Zai can also write his own ticket to almost any team. Those together leads to a big who knows on what zai and EG's future is together.

If he does squeeze in before TI, I can see it on Euro Mix Team #13 like mama's boys that's semi-serious semi-not. I think most serious teams will want to stay roster locked ~3 months for TI.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 16 2016 09:52 GMT
#1424
Yeah good point, if he does join a team like spudde says pre TI6 then i agree with your point that i think it would be more a pub based team with people not in it. I hope he does that just to get himself back into practice earn himself a bit of money. Then when he shows good plays the big boys come in for him after ti6.
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 10:45:40
February 16 2016 10:40 GMT
#1425
I have no clue what his mentality is but it doesn't seem too far fetched to me that he might join a team already after Shanghai. The Manila Major is in early June (?) so I think Zai's school is over already then and he could travel there and after that he can prepare for TI 100%.

For example a possible scenario could be that Secret doesn't have a great run at Shanghai, they want to do changes, and Puppey asks Zai to join. Then they just don't play too many events or play with a standin if Zai can't travel to every event. The events that really matter after that are the Manila Major and TI, and I think Zai is able to play those.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 10:59:09
February 16 2016 10:57 GMT
#1426
That is true, he could replace quite a few people in Secret too, he could take Misery or Pieliedie's spot.

Fear just went live btw if anyone is interested :D
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bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
February 16 2016 12:53 GMT
#1427
On February 16 2016 18:52 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah good point, if he does join a team like spudde says pre TI6 then i agree with your point that i think it would be more a pub based team with people not in it. I hope he does that just to get himself back into practice earn himself a bit of money. Then when he shows good plays the big boys come in for him after ti6.


He isn't making any money with a pub stack nor would he qualify to TI6 with such a team , if anything playing with a bad/mediocre team will hurt him more then help as everyone will want to watch him play and sure enough he will be "bad" because the team will lose most of the times and then idiots will say he is now bad.
as ppl mentioned he can choose to play with almost in any team , teams will make room for him and compete for his contract , i say either go big or go home for him , you play for a high caliber team or just stick to pubs until you are ready to put everything on the line again.

Amazing player can't wait to see him back in action.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 17 2016 14:18 GMT
#1428
For the first time in more than a year, EG has played more games on the current patch than most other teams. Hopefully it'll continue to lead to great results.

Since TI5, out of the 7 tournaments they entered (including Captain's Draft), they top 3'd in 6 of them, including a first place finish at The Summit.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 17 2016 15:18 GMT
#1429
Nice! I would assume as well after today's tournament they will head into boot camp mode before flying to China next Tuesday? Depending on the set up Charlie and co have got for them.
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zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 17:20:30
February 17 2016 17:18 GMT
#1430
ppd said that they are bootcamping in boston, i think he said that on one of his streams.

but i dont really get the logic of bootcamping in boston. but i guess u could scrim all the euro teams easy. i guess if they bootcamped closer to china, there's no guarantee that any of the chinese teams would even scrim them.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-17 17:40:53
February 17 2016 17:38 GMT
#1431
The logic is just being able to play EU teams on okay ping. There's not enough quality practice to be had on US servers. I suppose the other alternative is going to China early and play them, but I would assume that is much less comfortable otherwise for EG. Far nicer to stay in your home country and go to China just for the tournament.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
February 17 2016 18:22 GMT
#1432
The evidence for that is clear if you follow PPD's Youtube channel. He's been uploading FPVODs of him playing high-MMR pubs lately, and they tend to all include some assortment of players from EG with guest appearances from Bulba and Yawar (Aui has been around too, but hasn't shown up in any of PPD's games yet to the best of my knowledge). When high level competition in your region takes the form of your own team and a couple players from DC, there's a pretty big problem. And going abroad is a relatively terrible option, given the necessary added stresses.

That said... I live near Boston. It's kinda exciting, maybe PPD will shoot some video in the area and I can feel special.
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Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 17 2016 18:39 GMT
#1433
On February 18 2016 03:22 Acritter wrote:
The evidence for that is clear if you follow PPD's Youtube channel. He's been uploading FPVODs of him playing high-MMR pubs lately, and they tend to all include some assortment of players from EG with guest appearances from Bulba and Yawar (Aui has been around too, but hasn't shown up in any of PPD's games yet to the best of my knowledge). When high level competition in your region takes the form of your own team and a couple players from DC, there's a pretty big problem. And going abroad is a relatively terrible option, given the necessary added stresses.


That's why it's amazing that EG can continue to place well given lack of training partners.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
February 17 2016 19:08 GMT
#1434
I don't think the situation is that different nowadays to top EU teams. I don't think the top teams scrim all the time when there are no events and the top EU teams are getting invites to events just like EG are so they don't play officials online that much either. And when they do prepare for events, EG can get similar preparation by moving to the east coast.

Of course it's an advantage to have more potential teams to play against right where you live, but in practice I don't think it's that big of a deal.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
February 18 2016 08:49 GMT
#1435
Yeah but like when they did Starladder and went to the minsk(?) early like 3-4 days to get used to one the timezone and two they had set up a practice room to train for 2-3 days, that is what i meant. Go to China early to get the jet lag out of your system in 2-3 days whilst practicing as well. I guess there might not be any scrim options to do that but hey what about yolo 5 stack queueing
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
February 18 2016 12:12 GMT
#1436
I think they are heading to China on the 21st. If there are other western teams there early they can scrim, also I'm sure that now groups are revealed there will be Chinese teams outside of D that will want to scrim.

Feeling pretty good about EG right now, they completely dominated Captain's Draft, hopefully they can carry it forward!
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scorpkx
Profile Joined December 2015
Australia19 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 12:37:46
February 18 2016 12:34 GMT
#1437
On February 18 2016 21:12 emperorchampion wrote:
I think they are heading to China on the 21st. If there are other western teams there early they can scrim, also I'm sure that now groups are revealed there will be Chinese teams outside of D that will want to scrim.

Feeling pretty good about EG right now, they completely dominated Captain's Draft, hopefully they can carry it forward!


EG is the only team I can predict with any certainty will get top 3. In my opinion every other team can finish at any place at shanghai. for all the hype behind alliance and ehome i still think they are prone to huge upsets during big international LAN's like this. over the last 6 months no team has looked anywhere near as consistent as EG under a variety of circumstances.

IF EG don't make top 3 then i will certainly be impressed with whoever stopped them from achieving it. as for winning shanghai is don't think they have it in them. EG has never been the underdogs in any LAN they have attended for the last 2 years. EG go into every tournament with a HUGE target on their backs. This means that it is very likely there might be a team or two who have EG's number at Shanghai so it's no big deal, its only a testimony to how strong they are.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
February 18 2016 14:54 GMT
#1438
On February 18 2016 21:34 scorpkx wrote:
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On February 18 2016 21:12 emperorchampion wrote:
I think they are heading to China on the 21st. If there are other western teams there early they can scrim, also I'm sure that now groups are revealed there will be Chinese teams outside of D that will want to scrim.

Feeling pretty good about EG right now, they completely dominated Captain's Draft, hopefully they can carry it forward!


EG is the only team I can predict with any certainty will get top 3. In my opinion every other team can finish at any place at shanghai. for all the hype behind alliance and ehome i still think they are prone to huge upsets during big international LAN's like this. over the last 6 months no team has looked anywhere near as consistent as EG under a variety of circumstances.

IF EG don't make top 3 then i will certainly be impressed with whoever stopped them from achieving it. as for winning shanghai is don't think they have it in them. EG has never been the underdogs in any LAN they have attended for the last 2 years. EG go into every tournament with a HUGE target on their backs. This means that it is very likely there might be a team or two who have EG's number at Shanghai so it's no big deal, its only a testimony to how strong they are.


Ehome has done about as well as you can expect, they finished 1st in the last 3 tournaments they attended.

I agree that EG is almost expected to finish top 3, with strong chance to win. In my opinion, they are in the roughest group. However, this seems to only benefit EG, as they very much like to feel out LANs then adapt as they go.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
February 20 2016 09:44 GMT
#1439
So anyone's thoughts on EG having a roster change after Shanghai? I feel like something just seems off with this team right now. I can possibly see a Sumail kick coming soon if he starts under performing some more.
Getting too old for this..
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
February 20 2016 10:06 GMT
#1440
On February 20 2016 18:44 Danzo wrote:
So anyone's thoughts on EG having a roster change after Shanghai? I feel like something just seems off with this team right now. I can possibly see a Sumail kick coming soon if he starts under performing some more.


Its a joke right ? are you being sarcastic ?
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