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Crimson
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States311 Posts
December 09 2016 17:38 GMT
#2681
On December 06 2016 07:20 ChickenDieAlive wrote:
EG will do a clean sweep through Wings and VP and claim the title.


Well, you're half way to being right.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 10 2016 00:47 GMT
#2682
I have EG v DC in the finals, looking good so far! NA dota 2 gud
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
December 10 2016 01:20 GMT
#2683
On December 10 2016 09:47 emperorchampion wrote:
I have EG v DC in the finals, looking good so far! NA dota 2 gud


from organizational perspective yes, from the player perspective not quite
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 10 2016 01:21 GMT
#2684
Wow
2 TOP4 rated teams down, 1 more to go
And then lose to one of the bottom bracket outsiders hahaha
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Harpoon
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines93 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 03:43:14
December 10 2016 03:41 GMT
#2685
Well, the boys finally realized it would bad to show their losing faces on True Sight so they decided to take matters as if its life and death. GJ guys.
War is not about who is right, it is about who is left.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
December 10 2016 03:58 GMT
#2686
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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
December 10 2016 05:35 GMT
#2687
time to see if OG is in EG's head after three straight series wins. Let's go #bleedblue
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 10 2016 09:02 GMT
#2688
Watching Game 2, knowing EG won, was weird. From about 30 minutes on, it looked like EG was going to lose. Alchemist wasn't snowballing too hard and RTZ clearly isn't comfortable on Mirana and VP was being very efficient on the map. Still, late-game Blademail for the win, haha.

EG's vision game got a whole lot better, the drafting was really well-prepared in game 1. Game 2, VP came back really strong and probably takes that game about 60% of the time. But some really clutch buybacks and the high-ground holds. Game 2 was awesome.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 10 2016 10:43 GMT
#2689
EG also seemed simply more experienced with their strategy
VP picked a pocket strat and their lategame execution just couldn't compete, especially Noone looked like he doesn't have Sniper drilled enough
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
December 10 2016 16:30 GMT
#2690
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atmankulkarni
Profile Joined October 2016
India109 Posts
December 10 2016 17:25 GMT
#2691
Wondering what Cr1t- must be thinking.
I hope they don't split because of this result. Lots of scope for improvement, they can still be a very good team.
"Hakuna Matata"
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
December 10 2016 17:52 GMT
#2692
EG weren't exactly the picture of consistency this tournament. As great as the VP series was, the OG series was rancid.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 10 2016 18:21 GMT
#2693
what do you expect, you got a team of young guns what else but volatility can you expect
This ain't no PPD Steered on man Fear balanced steady ship
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
December 10 2016 18:50 GMT
#2694
On December 11 2016 03:21 LemOn wrote:
what do you expect, you got a team of young guns what else but volatility can you expect
This ain't no PPD Steered on man Fear balanced steady ship


I feel they are still very similar to old EG, they always place well and completely suck against illusion heroes.
Hopefully they will strive in the new patch.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 10 2016 18:56 GMT
#2695
Feels bad that they lost, but no shame in losing to OG
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
atmankulkarni
Profile Joined October 2016
India109 Posts
December 10 2016 19:41 GMT
#2696
On December 11 2016 03:21 LemOn wrote:
what do you expect, you got a team of young guns what else but volatility can you expect
This ain't no PPD Steered on man Fear balanced steady ship


I may be wrong but I think it was because of PPD that EG had so many roster changes last year (not that I am judging it was good or bad decision) whatever his reasons were. He was the decision maker & everyone else had almost no say.
This time, it's only young guns & may be Fear with some influence. It will be interesting how they go forward after this but staying together is still the best option for everyone.
I hope Fear understand the potential in this team & convinces everyone to stay.
"Hakuna Matata"
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
December 10 2016 19:44 GMT
#2697
On December 11 2016 02:52 HaXxorIzed wrote:
EG weren't exactly the picture of consistency this tournament. As great as the VP series was, the OG series was rancid.


OG exposed how much EG telegraphs their future picks in the second ban phase. I'm convinced the TB ban in Game 2 put them at a huge disadvantage that they never recovered from.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
BreakupBoy
Profile Joined September 2016
Germany171 Posts
December 10 2016 19:52 GMT
#2698
I'm still ok with a top 4 placement, ppd didn't win them all either. In addition it was single elimination so who knows how they would have done in a double elimination bracket, even though with their groupstage results they would have strated in the lower bracket anyway. I mean EG fans are pretty spoiled in terms of results, with the exception of manila EG have placed in the top 3 of every valve tournament since TI4. I just hope they stay together but I'm not too worried this time, the roster has so much potential and from the true sight episodes they seem to get along pretty well.
(~ ̄▽ ̄)~
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 10 2016 21:35 GMT
#2699
On December 11 2016 04:44 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2016 02:52 HaXxorIzed wrote:
EG weren't exactly the picture of consistency this tournament. As great as the VP series was, the OG series was rancid.


OG exposed how much EG telegraphs their future picks in the second ban phase. I'm convinced the TB ban in Game 2 put them at a huge disadvantage that they never recovered from.


This was Cr1t's first major drafting. Drafting was going to be EG's problem until Cr1t simply had more experience. We saw this with DC last year. Until the TI6 qualifiers, they couldn't ban against non-NA competition for the life of themselves. Improving their drafting and a good meta-shift in their favor and they take 2nd at TI.

At the same time, Fly has won 2 Majors (and is now in a 3rd Final) as captain. He's currently the best drafter on an active roster. No shame in getting exposed. It's really hard, especially with that much money on the line. Though the worrying part is that the true hallmark of ppd drafting is a mid-game plan, but it's regularly not there for the current EG. Hopefully, that'll come with experience.

Lastly, Jerax is probably the best player in the world at the Major. That matters, a lot.

(There's a funny part that OG pretty much beat EG with the most classic ppd-lead approach: have a specific mid-game timing and hit the team fight like a sledgehammer.)
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-10 22:28:31
December 10 2016 22:27 GMT
#2700
I actually thought the second Ursa came out "switch the lanes pick OD" and when a noob like me can instantly figure out crit should have too. But he's no PPD, he also took time to come online with drafts
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
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