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theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-26 01:45:52
November 26 2016 01:45 GMT
#2661
hopefully EG doesn't have a mental block vs OG after losing 2-0 2-1 3-2 matches to them. The games between these teams are usually really good, and the rivalry will just get better if EG can win once in a while I guess the last time they won was 2-0 in the WB final of EM2.0?
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
November 28 2016 10:52 GMT
#2662
On November 26 2016 10:45 theqat wrote:
hopefully EG doesn't have a mental block vs OG after losing 2-0 2-1 3-2 matches to them. The games between these teams are usually really good, and the rivalry will just get better if EG can win once in a while I guess the last time they won was 2-0 in the WB final of EM2.0?

EG is the team with the strongest mindset. They know the game.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
December 02 2016 00:37 GMT
#2663
I think EG has a good group. LGD and Faceless are good enough to give EG a real challenge, but EG should advance at the top of their group.
Danzo
Profile Joined March 2011
2820 Posts
December 05 2016 03:10 GMT
#2664
....ok so when will PPD come back?
Getting too old for this..
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
December 05 2016 03:12 GMT
#2665
On December 02 2016 09:37 Gaial wrote:
I think EG has a good group. LGD and Faceless are good enough to give EG a real challenge, but EG should advance at the top of their group.

This post is so sad after today
rip
Harpoon
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines93 Posts
December 05 2016 10:54 GMT
#2666
That series vs col was ttotally unexpected. Get it together guys!
War is not about who is right, it is about who is left.
MintberryCrunchs
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany462 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-05 14:17:46
December 05 2016 11:20 GMT
#2667
Those drafts and excecution by EG ...

They prioritize gettin farm on their 3 cores so much that Cr1t, but especially Zai for a position 4 both allways been completly underfarmed - like they have to play a double pos. 5.
Both Cr1t and Zai are amazing players and while it is somewhat required that cr1t as captain follows PPD footsteps and becomes the hard 5 - i dont think this current playstyle is something a player like Zai feels satisfied with (even IF they would win with it) and it honestly feels like a waste of what this player can achieve.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 05 2016 12:16 GMT
#2668
Wow
This is actually incredibly brutal for EG
They have first Wings, then VP, then OG at their side of the bracket...in a single elimination!
So much for the groups not mattering at all.
Grandfinals will have the easiest opponent for them paradoxically, if they manage to win this they will be the undisputed kings of Dota and then some
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
December 05 2016 17:21 GMT
#2669
EG are playing well individually. But their team coordination is bad. They are lacking a short-caller and true captain it seems.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
December 05 2016 17:30 GMT
#2670
On December 05 2016 21:16 LemOn wrote:
Wow
This is actually incredibly brutal for EG
They have first Wings, then VP, then OG at their side of the bracket...in a single elimination!
So much for the groups not mattering at all.
Grandfinals will have the easiest opponent for them paradoxically, if they manage to win this they will be the undisputed kings of Dota and then some

So much for the groups not mattering? If they've done better in the groups they would be agains WG.U instead of the fucking TI6 champions. Imo the groups matter a LOT. (4 groups is shit tho)
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
December 05 2016 21:06 GMT
#2671
On December 06 2016 02:30 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2016 21:16 LemOn wrote:
Wow
This is actually incredibly brutal for EG
They have first Wings, then VP, then OG at their side of the bracket...in a single elimination!
So much for the groups not mattering at all.
Grandfinals will have the easiest opponent for them paradoxically, if they manage to win this they will be the undisputed kings of Dota and then some

So much for the groups not mattering? If they've done better in the groups they would be agains WG.U instead of the fucking TI6 champions. Imo the groups matter a LOT. (4 groups is shit tho)


So u are saying the same thing...?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
December 05 2016 21:41 GMT
#2672
Well people said the groups don't matter before the event
Oh how wrong they were Wings and EG screwed up and created the most stacked bracket ever, all those 4 teams were TOP4contenders
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
ChickenDieAlive
Profile Joined September 2015
699 Posts
December 05 2016 22:20 GMT
#2673
EG will do a clean sweep through Wings and VP and claim the title.
atmankulkarni
Profile Joined October 2016
India109 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-06 09:51:35
December 06 2016 09:50 GMT
#2674
Imagine the scenes if EG beat Wings, then VP & then OG to go through to the Finals but lose to NP or DC (again) for the title.. Fans will go ballistic.
"Hakuna Matata"
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
December 06 2016 13:22 GMT
#2675
I don't know how much to read into these consecutive losses to coL.

EG historically is bad against teams who like to run at you and fight all the time, even under PPD (think against MVP).

I feel like EG has no answer for when their double dual lanes go bad, because coL really liked to run a defensive tri lane against an EG dual lane and would come out ahead. EG needed to adapt better than that.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
December 06 2016 17:40 GMT
#2676
On December 06 2016 22:22 Gaial wrote:
I don't know how much to read into these consecutive losses to coL.

EG historically is bad against teams who like to run at you and fight all the time, even under PPD (think against MVP).

I feel like EG has no answer for when their double dual lanes go bad, because coL really liked to run a defensive tri lane against an EG dual lane and would come out ahead. EG needed to adapt better than that.


Complexity wasn't terribly behind in game 2, set 2 coming out of the laning stage & won the laning stage in game 3, set 2. Otherwise, EG won the laning stage in 4 of 6 games. And the probably won hardest in the two games they lost in the first set.

Except for game 3, set 2, EG pretty much just tried to keep attacking into Complexity with very limited vision. The Vision Game being really, really bad for EG is a worry. They've got no chance against the Title Contenders with their vision game so bad.
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
December 07 2016 21:11 GMT
#2677
Game 2 vs wings can be summed up as: thank you coL
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 07 2016 21:16 GMT
#2678
On December 08 2016 06:11 Gaial wrote:
Game 2 vs wings can be summed up as: thank you coL


yeah haha
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Gaial
Profile Joined May 2014
United States313 Posts
December 08 2016 12:25 GMT
#2679
On December 07 2016 02:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2016 22:22 Gaial wrote:
I don't know how much to read into these consecutive losses to coL.

EG historically is bad against teams who like to run at you and fight all the time, even under PPD (think against MVP).

I feel like EG has no answer for when their double dual lanes go bad, because coL really liked to run a defensive tri lane against an EG dual lane and would come out ahead. EG needed to adapt better than that.


Complexity wasn't terribly behind in game 2, set 2 coming out of the laning stage & won the laning stage in game 3, set 2. Otherwise, EG won the laning stage in 4 of 6 games. And the probably won hardest in the two games they lost in the first set.

Except for game 3, set 2, EG pretty much just tried to keep attacking into Complexity with very limited vision. The Vision Game being really, really bad for EG is a worry. They've got no chance against the Title Contenders with their vision game so bad.


Well, their vision game was at least 250% better vs Wings. Also it seemed to me they took Universe's farm priority and gave it to Zai, but that may have been because he was a Slar and CW.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
December 09 2016 17:27 GMT
#2680
E fuckin G!! Those two games were fantastic from the boys!!
Love the aggressive movement into the jungle to catch VP off-guard

PS: How could none of the commentators nor the panel see that EG actually had a ward on the secret shop that could spot the Rapier purchase? The BM purchase is still fantastic and game winning, but he had intel on the Rapier
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
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