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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 22 2018 05:24 GMT
#191201
On May 22 2018 02:54 Plansix wrote:
I can recommend Attack on Titan

yea that tells me all i need to know
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 22 2018 05:43 GMT
#191202
On May 22 2018 13:35 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2018 10:33 Plansix wrote:
On May 22 2018 09:34 lestye wrote:
On May 22 2018 02:39 Plansix wrote:
All right, so Darling in the Franxx came up again among my real life friends, so I decided to watch some of it for real. And now I'm just bummed out by the fan service, because there is a fun compelling teen character under all that. But the show is so in your face with it early on in the series, and it dominates its presence on the internet that I cannot recommend the show to anyone that isn't already aware of its trashy nature. It is a real disservice to the show in general, which has a lot of heart.

I think there are good reasons to forgive Darling for that.

Sexuality, fertility, relationships, frustration are actually part of its core recurring themes. It's not like Aquarion and Daimidaler where they do lewd things for the sake of lewd things.

I completely disagree. All the characters in that series are coded as children, from their uniforms to the fact that all the adults call them children. Yet that are leered at and sexualized by both the camera and animation. I have no problem with the boys and girls being attracted to each other, it is making Zero Two appear naked in the first episode with her magic hair serving as pasties. Objectifying characters that are presented to me as high school freshmen and juniors is gross and why I have a hard time recommending the show to anyone. It is a disservice to a show in general.


Isn't the core demographic underage for anime?

Depends on the show. Shounen are like 12-17 year old boys, Seinen college age guys, then there are the female equivalent demographics (Shoujo and Josei). Shounen is by far the largest demographic, but the others are sizable. I'm not sure what age group (if any) Darling is aimed at. Also, some shows aimed at one demographic can wind up with crossover appeal (apparently Shounen started adding a bunch of bishonen characters for this reason). It is true that most of it is aimed at 20s or younger.


Side note : High School in Anime is typically depicted as a 3 year program in Japanese Anime (though from what I understand this isn't 100% common in the actual country). Granted, sophomore/junior age isn't really THAT much better than freshman/sophomore age for sexuality.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-22 06:26:06
May 22 2018 06:18 GMT
#191203
On May 22 2018 14:24 andyrau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2018 02:54 Plansix wrote:
I can recommend Attack on Titan

yea that tells me all i need to know


Shin sekai yori was better
High Risk Low Reward
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12161 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-22 06:21:50
May 22 2018 06:21 GMT
#191204
What is the problem of recommending Attack on Titan? It is a somewhat current anime in top 200 of all anime. It is not the best anime ever made but it has mostly solid production and an interesting (if not fully coherent) background and story.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 22 2018 06:32 GMT
#191205
On May 22 2018 15:21 Yurie wrote:
What is the problem of recommending Attack on Titan? It is a somewhat current anime in top 200 of all anime. It is not the best anime ever made but it has mostly solid production and an interesting (if not fully coherent) background and story.


gonna take a stab at this.

The reasons I dislike AoT:
1. Main characters are lame -- Eren is a baby, Armin is an even bigger baby, mikasa is OP
2. Pacing is awful and the story gets pretty convoluted further in the manga. I have read like 90 chapters and I still feel lost. Its a shitty feeling.
3. Its a product of the death and gore at the cost of all else fetish people have developed.
High Risk Low Reward
ieltstips23
Profile Joined May 2018
1 Post
Last Edited: 2018-05-22 06:45:20
May 22 2018 06:45 GMT
#191206
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
May 22 2018 07:30 GMT
#191207
I've only seen the one AoT Abrigded episode that TFS made and it was excellent, can't say anything about the actual show though.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-22 18:33:04
May 22 2018 07:35 GMT
#191208
AoT could be good but it sucks
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lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4238 Posts
May 22 2018 09:51 GMT
#191209
On May 22 2018 15:21 Yurie wrote:
What is the problem of recommending Attack on Titan? It is a somewhat current anime in top 200 of all anime. It is not the best anime ever made but it has mostly solid production and an interesting (if not fully coherent) background and story.

I don't think there would be a problem. A lot of people like horror/gore so the violence wouldnt be an issue. Very high production value, the action scenes are something that you wouldnt get in any other medium, I think its probably one of the better recommendations.

On May 22 2018 10:33 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2018 09:34 lestye wrote:
On May 22 2018 02:39 Plansix wrote:
All right, so Darling in the Franxx came up again among my real life friends, so I decided to watch some of it for real. And now I'm just bummed out by the fan service, because there is a fun compelling teen character under all that. But the show is so in your face with it early on in the series, and it dominates its presence on the internet that I cannot recommend the show to anyone that isn't already aware of its trashy nature. It is a real disservice to the show in general, which has a lot of heart.

I think there are good reasons to forgive Darling for that.

Sexuality, fertility, relationships, frustration are actually part of its core recurring themes. It's not like Aquarion and Daimidaler where they do lewd things for the sake of lewd things.

I completely disagree. All the characters in that series are coded as children, from their uniforms to the fact that all the adults call them children. Yet that are leered at and sexualized by both the camera and animation. I have no problem with the boys and girls being attracted to each other, it is making Zero Two appear naked in the first episode with her magic hair serving as pasties. Objectifying characters that are presented to me as high school freshmen and juniors is gross and why I have a hard time recommending the show to anyone. It is a disservice to a show in general.

I'll concede that the first episode was probably offputting, but I still maintain that a lot of the shows sexualization is relevant to its themes

But, I think your point probably still stands. As much as I would disagree with that critique, I wouldn't recommend it as a gateway anime to anyone.
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
May 22 2018 10:13 GMT
#191210
did everyone have a nice time over the holidays?
What do you guys call this thing we call Pfingsten here?
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
May 22 2018 10:18 GMT
#191211
I believe Pentecost and Pentecost monday is a european thing.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 22 2018 12:33 GMT
#191212
2018 and blizzard still refusing to unban my ability to play wc3 ladder claiming its not possible lmao
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
May 22 2018 12:58 GMT
#191213
Why were you banned from the wc3 ladder in the first place?
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 22 2018 13:01 GMT
#191214
literally no clue thats the dumbest part, just after reinstalling after a couple of years it suddenly didnt let me ladder again, i barely ever played ladder and i certainly didnt do anything non allowed

if i was banned for hacking or some shit then sure yeah but i was literally banned for no reason
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7756 Posts
May 22 2018 13:09 GMT
#191215
well you can always stir up shit abut it on social media or reddit if everything else fails
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 22 2018 14:05 GMT
#191216
On May 22 2018 15:18 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2018 14:24 andyrau wrote:
On May 22 2018 02:54 Plansix wrote:
I can recommend Attack on Titan

yea that tells me all i need to know


Shin sekai yori was better

yes
Writer@WriterYamato
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
May 22 2018 14:45 GMT
#191217
paris is like legit flooding lol.
wondering if im gonna lose power over here
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 22 2018 15:04 GMT
#191218
The 1910 Great Flood of Paris: Part 2
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 22 2018 15:06 GMT
#191219
Liquid Fortnite when?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 22 2018 15:11 GMT
#191220
good thing u live on the billionth floor so u wont get wet
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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