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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:25 Nevuk wrote: If you're playing a xeno-game for the combat, you're definitely doing it wrong Then why does every fight look like it takes 20 minutes lol | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:36 PassiveAce wrote: Then why does every fight look like it takes 20 minutes lol Because every cutscene is probably 3x as long. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:36 PassiveAce wrote: Then why does every fight look like it takes 20 minutes lol #Valueformy$60 Secretly every JRPG is an Ubisoft game without all the map icons. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:33 Nevuk wrote: They tend to have really good stories with some level of philosophical thought. Though they generally get really whacky later on in the game. Xenogears, the first one, has its second disk cover something like 500 years in a really weird story teller mode - they ran out of time in development. But it's not unusual for them to suddenly change reality in the last 30 minutes or things along those lines. I still want to play xenosaga at some point, but the intro is really slow and it's painfully hard to emulate. (Xenoblade 1 had very little fanservice lol, no idea about the swords with tits) I remember liking xenogears but not beating it and thinking xenosaga was dogshit My favorite jrpg twist is in one of the starocean's where in the last 20% of the game you find out nothing ypuv been doing for the last 100 hours matters because you're all living in the matrix and the matrix is also a gundam | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:34 Plansix wrote: The sad part is that it’s a beautiful game with a grand scope, Anime ass plot with characters that are so extra and passable RPG elements. It’s just that a lot of the lady characters look like were birthed directly from a 14 year boy’s mind. This actually surprises me, as they had pretty much the least fanservice of any of the normal JRPGs in the ones I played (xenogears + xenoblade 1)`. lol, I just googled some images. Wow, that's uh. That's almost ar tonelico level of fan service. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32755 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:45 PhoenixVoid wrote: I love it and hate it when Japanese games (and manga and anime I guess) devolve into some pseudo-philosophical babble or a mind-bending metaphysical twist at the end. Makes me feel a little less stupid for all the teenage fanservice and absurdly designed swords I witnessed. Xeno- games are basically the kings of that. I think it's fine as long as it's well known that's what someone is getting into. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Also it's your typical Xeno story combining religion/technology/robots and a pretty questionable moral system, and is pretty good. Seriously give it a good try and the gameplay opens a lot more, i mean, there's people beating the final boss in 12 seconds, i've been farming him a bit and it takes me not that much, it's also a hard game if you don't know what you are doing | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:51 Plansix wrote: A good amount of anime is trapped in the 1990 hole that comics used to be in. They pander to the demographic that buys their stuff. Anime video games especially. I still like some anime, like Gundam, IBO, for being super extra melodrama with giant robots. But there isn’t going to be a “Breaking Bad” of anime any times soon. Look up darling in the franxx if you want to hate everything | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:33 Nevuk wrote: They tend to have really good stories with some level of philosophical thought. Though they generally get really whacky later on in the game. Xenogears, the first one, has its second disk cover something like 500 years in a really weird story teller mode - they ran out of time in development. But it's not unusual for them to suddenly change reality in the last 30 minutes or things along those lines. I still want to play xenosaga at some point, but the intro is really slow and it's painfully hard to emulate. (Xenoblade 1 had very little fanservice lol, no idea about the swords with tits) huh, guessing the series is just not for me because I found the early storyline miserable lol I guess I can try to push through but I've got so many games to play On March 16 2018 04:34 TheEmulator wrote: Witcher 3 combat/gameplay was pretty average but it was one of my favorite games of all time. Considering that eieio also quit that game after a couple of hours I'm just gonna assume he HEAVILY favors good gameplay/combat in his games. Anyway as for a game like Xenoblade or really any JRPG it's more about the overall experience. You have to enjoy the grind (finding blades, exploring everything, doing side shit). You also have to be able to deal with the fact that it's gonna be kinda anime. I'm sure eieio would hate Persona 5 as well. I don't mind doing sidequests (ie I've been happy to slowly 100% mario and zelda and Horizon Zero Dawn) and I can find grinding pretty satisfying (HDZ again?) but I agree that WITHOUT an enjoyable gameplay experience that I really enjoy I'm just not willing to put up with it. Guess it's worth noting that while I never got the other endings I loved NieR on my first playthrough because if nothing else trying to do combat w/o ever getting hit was super satisfying. And I loved grinding enemies in that game. I have been thinking about trying TW3 again, and I will say that I've enjoyed games like The Elder Scrolls series where combat is actually pretty bad but there's enough interaction between different mechanics that I still find it interesting. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Even the games with stories i think are super fun or have depth like chrono trigger/cross (respectively) are unplayable to me now. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 16 2018 04:53 Nevuk wrote: Look up darling in the franxx if you want to hate everything That is some high level mecha trash with some super anime gender roles bullshit. I would need to be drinking if I was going to hate watch that series. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
Better than Skyrim, but nowhere near Breath of the Wild imo. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
General combat is lowkey bad or at best average but the story and exploration is so damn engaging it propels it to greatness imo | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Plansix
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Maverick_2009
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