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SoCal8933 Posts
On March 19 2015 01:32 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:31 BluemoonSC wrote:On March 19 2015 01:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On March 19 2015 01:23 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2015 01:20 BluemoonSC wrote:On March 19 2015 00:52 dismiss wrote:On March 19 2015 00:49 BluemoonSC wrote:
having kids when you're having financial difficulties is terrible for the kids. there are a ton of sociological factors going on here that can fuck with them. So you'd rather they have even less money instead of a well thought out security system enabling them to be succesful later on in life? I'd rather you not have kids and learn to support yourself before dragging a child into the world where you're suffering and putting them through hell. The problem is there is no good way to prevent that. You can't stop people from having kids without entering the world of truly questionable shit. eugenics is fine as long as you don't believe in human rights and don't mind determinations of childbearing invalidity based on questionable metrics i mean im totally amoral and apathetic so lets go for it, society!! its not eugenics that im suggesting though. its this thing called responsibility. Which is cool in practice, but you can't force it on people. You can't prevent people from having kids without totally going into the amoral world of "And now we force you to not have that baby".
of course, that's the difficult part, sadly. there is no solution other than running campaigns and programs that support using contraceptives and promoting social and moral responsibility.
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On March 19 2015 01:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its true that the awkward part of all this is the poor family that totally can't afford another car but buy it anyways are just hurting themselves, whereas the poor family that totally can't afford another kid but have it anyway have just spawned another state-responsibility lol.
Think of it this way. They were going to have that kid anyways. So the government can either help in the hopes the kid will grow up to be better than his parents, or not. But if you don't do anything, you can't be shocked if the kid turns out as bad or worst then his/her parents.
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On March 19 2015 01:31 BluemoonSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:26 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:On March 19 2015 01:23 Plansix wrote:On March 19 2015 01:20 BluemoonSC wrote:On March 19 2015 00:52 dismiss wrote:On March 19 2015 00:49 BluemoonSC wrote:
having kids when you're having financial difficulties is terrible for the kids. there are a ton of sociological factors going on here that can fuck with them. So you'd rather they have even less money instead of a well thought out security system enabling them to be succesful later on in life? I'd rather you not have kids and learn to support yourself before dragging a child into the world where you're suffering and putting them through hell. The problem is there is no good way to prevent that. You can't stop people from having kids without entering the world of truly questionable shit. eugenics is fine as long as you don't believe in human rights and don't mind determinations of childbearing invalidity based on questionable metrics i mean im totally amoral and apathetic so lets go for it, society!! its not eugenics that im suggesting though. its this thing called responsibility.
There's also this thing called an accident, or not 100% safe birth control, but it's better to be a gamburger and insist on your FREEDOM. Fuck those poor people, right?
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The dilemma here is that it is possible for individuals to act in such a way that not only harms themselves but also creates another individual which has his or her own independent set of moral deserts. We would prefer to see actors bear the consequences of their own foolishness, but at the same time have moral responsibility towards those others who stand to suffer from the poor decisions of their progenitors. Resolving this issue on the one hand creates moral hazard on the part of poor parents, and on the other stands to cause incredible harm to actors who are by definition innocent.
As noted above, one potential solution to the dilemma would be to remove the choice from the parents, which has distressing practical considerations given the propensity of such a system to facilitate genocide. Another possible solution would be to remove the child from the parents, but the current systems for handling said children tend to be harmful as well. The solution which has been in practice for quite some time and appears most reasonable is to provide and encourage use of birth control for unwilling parents. This might not entirely remove issues of unsuitable parenthood, but it definitely suppresses them.
tl;dr let's just give them condoms and abortion clinics
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 19 2015 00:25 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 00:23 Targe wrote:On March 19 2015 00:21 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 00:20 Targe wrote:
i cany stand synderen
if hes casting i have to mute why ? every time i go on hes analysing or something, i rly dont like things that arent play by play ahh tobi + lumi or ld + lumi is probably the best for you i think Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 00:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm surprised the church of xyclopz hasn't shown up
that guy is SO funny but at the same time utterly atrocious and cringy to the point of near-insta mute he casted the Ehome.my vs 5eva earlier Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 00:22 Comeh wrote:On March 19 2015 00:21 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 00:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
I hate working while sick. that shit is the worst shit. call a sick leave if you feel like you are about to collapse don't try to kill urself Look at this cute guy thinking US workers have rights pretty sure you guys have 100x more comfortable situation than we have here .. actually now that i think about it my sister used to be a branch manager in an apple store on singapore .. She said it was almost impossible to have a sickleave or something there but that was in singapore so idk.
u named one of my favourite caster combos, tobi + lumi 
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
ono the client im writing has gone full dumbo
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hello targe you have been posting a lot today best bday present ever tto see ur name on my monitor Thanks for being u
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
gosi im so hapy that i brought u joy i have been listening to ur utube playlist today and it is nice it makes the smile go on my face
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On March 19 2015 01:44 Acritter wrote:
The dilemma here is that it is possible for individuals to act in such a way that not only harms themselves but also creates another individual which has his or her own independent set of moral deserts. We would prefer to see actors bear the consequences of their own foolishness, but at the same time have moral responsibility towards those others who stand to suffer from the poor decisions of their progenitors. Resolving this issue on the one hand creates moral hazard on the part of poor parents, and on the other stands to cause incredible harm to actors who are by definition innocent.
As noted above, one potential solution to the dilemma would be to remove the choice from the parents, which has distressing practical considerations given the propensity of such a system to facilitate genocide. Another possible solution would be to remove the child from the parents, but the current systems for handling said children tend to be harmful as well. The solution which has been in practice for quite some time and appears most reasonable is to provide and encourage use of birth control for unwilling parents. This might not entirely remove issues of unsuitable parenthood, but it definitely suppresses them.
tl;dr let's just give them condoms and abortion clinics
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/
Unless you want to force people to get an abortion, which is arguably even less morally defensible than not "allowing" them to get pregnant in the first place, there's really no good way about it. :D
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On March 19 2015 01:46 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 00:25 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 00:23 Targe wrote:On March 19 2015 00:21 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 00:20 Targe wrote:
i cany stand synderen
if hes casting i have to mute why ? every time i go on hes analysing or something, i rly dont like things that arent play by play ahh tobi + lumi or ld + lumi is probably the best for you i think On March 19 2015 00:22 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'm surprised the church of xyclopz hasn't shown up
that guy is SO funny but at the same time utterly atrocious and cringy to the point of near-insta mute he casted the Ehome.my vs 5eva earlier On March 19 2015 00:22 Comeh wrote:On March 19 2015 00:21 goody153 wrote:On March 19 2015 00:18 BluemoonSC wrote:
I hate working while sick. that shit is the worst shit. call a sick leave if you feel like you are about to collapse don't try to kill urself Look at this cute guy thinking US workers have rights pretty sure you guys have 100x more comfortable situation than we have here .. actually now that i think about it my sister used to be a branch manager in an apple store on singapore .. She said it was almost impossible to have a sickleave or something there but that was in singapore so idk. u named one of my favourite caster combos, tobi + lumi
well i kind of figured if you didn't like the analytical types like synd + somebody or LD + winter/other pros
then probably you like the hypercasting types
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
i actually like winter but i think that might just be his accent
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really lol actually usually why people don't like winter casting cause of his accent
that's new
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On March 19 2015 01:52 dismiss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:44 Acritter wrote:
The dilemma here is that it is possible for individuals to act in such a way that not only harms themselves but also creates another individual which has his or her own independent set of moral deserts. We would prefer to see actors bear the consequences of their own foolishness, but at the same time have moral responsibility towards those others who stand to suffer from the poor decisions of their progenitors. Resolving this issue on the one hand creates moral hazard on the part of poor parents, and on the other stands to cause incredible harm to actors who are by definition innocent.
As noted above, one potential solution to the dilemma would be to remove the choice from the parents, which has distressing practical considerations given the propensity of such a system to facilitate genocide. Another possible solution would be to remove the child from the parents, but the current systems for handling said children tend to be harmful as well. The solution which has been in practice for quite some time and appears most reasonable is to provide and encourage use of birth control for unwilling parents. This might not entirely remove issues of unsuitable parenthood, but it definitely suppresses them.
tl;dr let's just give them condoms and abortion clinics http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/Unless you want to force people to get an abortion, which is arguably even less morally defensible than not "allowing" them to get pregnant in the first place, there's really no good way about it. :D
abortion aka BABY KILL YOU FASCISTS I KNEW IT
This whole time a nazi has been here.
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On March 19 2015 01:52 dismiss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:44 Acritter wrote:
The dilemma here is that it is possible for individuals to act in such a way that not only harms themselves but also creates another individual which has his or her own independent set of moral deserts. We would prefer to see actors bear the consequences of their own foolishness, but at the same time have moral responsibility towards those others who stand to suffer from the poor decisions of their progenitors. Resolving this issue on the one hand creates moral hazard on the part of poor parents, and on the other stands to cause incredible harm to actors who are by definition innocent.
As noted above, one potential solution to the dilemma would be to remove the choice from the parents, which has distressing practical considerations given the propensity of such a system to facilitate genocide. Another possible solution would be to remove the child from the parents, but the current systems for handling said children tend to be harmful as well. The solution which has been in practice for quite some time and appears most reasonable is to provide and encourage use of birth control for unwilling parents. This might not entirely remove issues of unsuitable parenthood, but it definitely suppresses them.
tl;dr let's just give them condoms and abortion clinics http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/Unless you want to force people to get an abortion, which is arguably even less morally defensible than not "allowing" them to get pregnant in the first place, there's really no good way about it. :D
Glad to see you agree with me.
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On March 19 2015 01:59 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:52 dismiss wrote:On March 19 2015 01:44 Acritter wrote:
The dilemma here is that it is possible for individuals to act in such a way that not only harms themselves but also creates another individual which has his or her own independent set of moral deserts. We would prefer to see actors bear the consequences of their own foolishness, but at the same time have moral responsibility towards those others who stand to suffer from the poor decisions of their progenitors. Resolving this issue on the one hand creates moral hazard on the part of poor parents, and on the other stands to cause incredible harm to actors who are by definition innocent.
As noted above, one potential solution to the dilemma would be to remove the choice from the parents, which has distressing practical considerations given the propensity of such a system to facilitate genocide. Another possible solution would be to remove the child from the parents, but the current systems for handling said children tend to be harmful as well. The solution which has been in practice for quite some time and appears most reasonable is to provide and encourage use of birth control for unwilling parents. This might not entirely remove issues of unsuitable parenthood, but it definitely suppresses them.
tl;dr let's just give them condoms and abortion clinics http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/Unless you want to force people to get an abortion, which is arguably even less morally defensible than not "allowing" them to get pregnant in the first place, there's really no good way about it. :D abortion aka BABY KILL YOU FASCISTS I KNEW IT This whole time a nazi has been here.
Shit hide me I'm a Jew
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Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On March 19 2015 01:56 goody153 wrote:
really lol actually usually why people don't like winter casting cause of his accent
that's new
i like winter/xyclopz/sea accents in general, but fuck lumi's chinglish is painful to listen to
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On March 19 2015 02:02 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:56 goody153 wrote:
really lol actually usually why people don't like winter casting cause of his accent
that's new i like winter/xyclopz/sea accents in general, but fuck lumi's chinglish is painful to listen to
this is surprising that you guys like them due to the accent lol
"here comes a push"
"and there goes your ES ! never mind the push !"
he knows how to hype that's one thing about lumi even though he says random stuff from time to time lol
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 19 2015 01:56 goody153 wrote:
really lol actually usually why people don't like winter casting cause of his accent
that's new
i used to live in singapore, i like malay singaporean accents
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On March 19 2015 02:00 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:52 dismiss wrote:On March 19 2015 01:44 Acritter wrote:
The dilemma here is that it is possible for individuals to act in such a way that not only harms themselves but also creates another individual which has his or her own independent set of moral deserts. We would prefer to see actors bear the consequences of their own foolishness, but at the same time have moral responsibility towards those others who stand to suffer from the poor decisions of their progenitors. Resolving this issue on the one hand creates moral hazard on the part of poor parents, and on the other stands to cause incredible harm to actors who are by definition innocent.
As noted above, one potential solution to the dilemma would be to remove the choice from the parents, which has distressing practical considerations given the propensity of such a system to facilitate genocide. Another possible solution would be to remove the child from the parents, but the current systems for handling said children tend to be harmful as well. The solution which has been in practice for quite some time and appears most reasonable is to provide and encourage use of birth control for unwilling parents. This might not entirely remove issues of unsuitable parenthood, but it definitely suppresses them.
tl;dr let's just give them condoms and abortion clinics http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3638209/Unless you want to force people to get an abortion, which is arguably even less morally defensible than not "allowing" them to get pregnant in the first place, there's really no good way about it. :D Glad to see you agree with me.
I'm not, since your point about contraception surpressing the issue of unwanted parency is empircally proven wrong, which you'd figure out by being a graph lord for 15 seconds. n_n
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@ Icydude ! it's not just the raveboys wearing tsinelas
rofl
On March 19 2015 02:05 Targe wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2015 01:56 goody153 wrote:
really lol actually usually why people don't like winter casting cause of his accent
that's new i used to live in singapore, i like malay singaporean accents
that make sense i thought you are just fascinated with the culture or something
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