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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 24 2018 18:44 GMT
#185501
The one thing that trips me up every time is when people treat the court like some sort of system where you plug facts and a law into it and get told you are right or wrong. It is a common view and a disservice of everyone, because the court isn’t about proving right or wrong. It is about finding remedies to conflicts or problems.

All is good in P6 land, except Gloomhaven is $200 on Amazon again. I missed the last shipment of copies I guess.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 18:48:09
January 24 2018 18:46 GMT
#185502
Yeah my local game store put up a post about them getting a single copy of gloomhaven in "wont last long"

the picture of the game had a 199.99 price tag LOL ok bro

Also actual (esports) lawyer posted about the ESL situation on reddit: "ESL doesn’t have the legal right to have content removed from Twitch based on alleged infringement of IP rights it doesn’t hold. The underlying gameplay made available via DotaTV is owned by Valve, not ESL"

:/
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OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 24 2018 18:48 GMT
#185503
On January 25 2018 03:29 intotheheart wrote:
I think I live in a better state than P6, because I'm pretty good at ignoring "someone was wrong on the internet" or "someone disagrees with me on the internet."

Although I'm sure that's obvious by his use of the politics thread, and my lack thereof.


You don't live in a State.
LiquidDota Staff
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 24 2018 18:49 GMT
#185504
Its $140 at retail. Board games cost a lot. The game is huge and high quality. It is basically D&D that doesn’t need a dungeon master. I have a strong desire to own it. But not a $200 desire.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 18:50:19
January 24 2018 18:49 GMT
#185505
I feel like I spend more on most consoles and use them about the same amount.

-e- gottem Omni :D
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 24 2018 18:49 GMT
#185506
On January 25 2018 03:48 OmniEulogy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 03:29 intotheheart wrote:
I think I live in a better state than P6, because I'm pretty good at ignoring "someone was wrong on the internet" or "someone disagrees with me on the internet."

Although I'm sure that's obvious by his use of the politics thread, and my lack thereof.


You don't live in a State.

Well, the word "province" didn't fit. Where's the love.
kiss kiss fall in love
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
January 24 2018 18:50 GMT
#185507
if you can find it ith all the power to you.
LiquidDota Staff
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
January 24 2018 18:51 GMT
#185508
I feel like asking staff for the location of love may be a waste of time, given my shitposting history.
kiss kiss fall in love
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 18:58:34
January 24 2018 18:56 GMT
#185509
I'm talking a class on the police
We were given two choices for articles to read on what the police are, and debated it today.

One said whites made an alliance to perpetuate racial inequality through the police and that they must be abolished. They also perpetuate poverty across racial lines, and are not necessary to society.
The other said the police are the hand of the law, characterized by their ability to use force and respond to any situation that is needed, additionally sometimes dictating how the law works.

There were 16 kids in the class. One kid did not read either one. Guess how many kids read the first one.
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Poll: How many kids read the first one?

14-12 (3)
 
50%

15 (2)
 
33%

1-3 (1)
 
17%

9-11 (0)
 
0%

7-8 (0)
 
0%

4-6 (0)
 
0%

0 (0)
 
0%

6 total votes

Your vote: How many kids read the first one?

(Vote): 15
(Vote): 14-12
(Vote): 9-11
(Vote): 7-8
(Vote): 4-6
(Vote): 1-3
(Vote): 0


Answer:
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14, I was the only person who read the second and had to debate the rest of the class, including an actual sjw
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
January 24 2018 18:58 GMT
#185510
pick a game and 1v1 ban for it. Ask Sno for insider details on what the most favorable staff + game matchup would be, and put you getting "Love" as your location up against getting banned for a week.

I mean I'd get on TL discord or whatever is being used these days for a live feed of that :D
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 19:01:25
January 24 2018 18:59 GMT
#185511
I almost guessed 15 but then I remembered you were part of the class and included in the count. Tricky question.

Also terrible class expertiment.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
January 24 2018 19:06 GMT
#185512
I mean the first article is the way more "interesting" one. The first article is the core plot for a dystopian teen novel in their fight against corrupt authority figures, the second is just boring old reality.
Maverick_2009
Profile Joined December 2014
Somewhere2002 Posts
January 24 2018 19:07 GMT
#185513
are there statistics for like, what percentage of the police force or whatever has been involved in situations that the first article might talk about
https://www.twitch.tv/deso_739
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 19:09:07
January 24 2018 19:08 GMT
#185514
Somewhere between 0% and 100% depending who you ask and what "perpetuating racial inequality" means to them.
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-01-24 19:15:34
January 24 2018 19:13 GMT
#185515
On January 25 2018 04:07 2009 wrote:
are there statistics for like, what percentage of the police force or whatever has been involved in situations that the first article might talk about

It was theoretical, based on the statistics of racial incarceration rates in the USA and studying police forces, written on 2011 or around then
The other was written in 1974 and basically started police studies as a career and was the source of lots of major police reforms since then

+ Show Spoiler +
Side note: the sjw looked like she wanted me to die, but the professor said it was a very productive debate and that I did fantastic on my own and held my own side against all of them. I am exhausted but happy
Also sjws are scary
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
January 24 2018 19:15 GMT
#185516
On January 25 2018 02:02 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 01:52 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 25 2018 01:50 SKC wrote:
On January 25 2018 01:47 Sn0_Man wrote:
It's owned by valve that's why they can write the statement that they did and it's why ESL have no grounds to do what they are doing.

If it's owned by Valve, issuing a DMCA even if BTS restreamed it should obviously be wrong. I don't get how you can issue a DMCA of something you don't own. No matter what the wording was in the statement.

This is some Kespa vs Blizzard shit though.

Because DMCA puts literally no onus or burden on the rights claimant, and while filing a counter-claim constitutes an agreement to evaluate the case in a court of law, filing the actual claim entails no such thing. It's just your average incredibly terrible piece of american law.

You are allowed you defense yourself to a DMCA claim, just like all other claims. Twitch or Youtube could fight with anyone making that claim if they wanted. The DMCA claim is made against them, not the streamer. Youtube and Twitch then take down the content because they are not going to bat for the streamer. Because why?

Host your own shit on your own server and you can litigate and enjoy due process like everyone else. Use youtube/twitch, enjoy feudalism and live under the rules of the land they own.

Side note: the who “streaming a video game and talking over it” is completely untested in relation to Fair Use. Most attorneys who know the law think it is a good case for Fair Use, but the courts are silent on the subject due to a lack of real litigation being appealed to the federal courts. No one should act like it is a sure thing, because we have no idea how that ruling would come down.


H3H3 won a lawsuit last year that stated their videos are their own, even though their content is commentating other's people videos.
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I don't know how far you can stretcht to gaming streams though
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 24 2018 19:17 GMT
#185517
One of the issues with law enforcement data is that there is no mandatory reporting requirements. Or requirement to collect data. The net result seems to be that departments that are good report their data, departments that suck or are abusivr resist reporting.

Florida, for instance, doesn’t even collect data on the use of lethal force.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2851 Posts
January 24 2018 19:18 GMT
#185518
On January 25 2018 04:08 SKC wrote:
Somewhere between 0% and 100% depending who you ask and what "perpetuating racial inequality" means to them.


Also super depends on where you are.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 24 2018 19:22 GMT
#185519
On January 25 2018 04:18 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2018 04:08 SKC wrote:
Somewhere between 0% and 100% depending who you ask and what "perpetuating racial inequality" means to them.


Also super depends on where you are.

It is one of the problems with the narrative around police reform. It isn’t a national problem. But police departments make it into a national issue to shield themselves. The LA PD is not the Boston PD is not the Dallas PD. Chicago’s problem are not Baltimore’s problems.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 24 2018 19:26 GMT
#185520
On January 25 2018 04:17 Plansix wrote:
One of the issues with law enforcement data is that there is no mandatory reporting requirements. Or requirement to collect data. The net result seems to be that departments that are good report their data, departments that suck or are abusivr resist reporting.

Florida, for instance, doesn’t even collect data on the use of lethal force.

That's florida though. It's legal to stalk someone and shoot them there.
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