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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44296 Posts
June 05 2015 11:13 GMT
#41801
On June 05 2015 20:04 BluemoonSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 14:41 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
jugg is totally fine and still arguably one of the best pub carries


dunno, I sorta disagree. ive played jugg a number of times this patch and the last and he's noticeably much weaker. like why would you wanna pick him when there are other heroes that do much better?

but that happens every patch. the circle of DOTA.

he's still pretty good honestly .. although he can't chase everybody now cause his movement speed is no longer almost 522 forever after yasha
this is a quote
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2015 11:20 GMT
#41802
Jugg's still a good pub carry lol

he's just not broken anymore
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 11:44:57
June 05 2015 11:43 GMT
#41803
idk every time i see jugg he feels the same as ever

i see pub juggs go ridiculous builds like aghs deso all the time and still kill 2 cores randomly lategame because omni is a stupid spell

weren't his only nerfs like... mom movespeed, low level Q cd, and omni ministun? that's like not very much difference
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44296 Posts
June 05 2015 11:43 GMT
#41804
all the juggs i see in SEA build aghs first and it kills me inside
this is a quote
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13085 Posts
June 05 2015 11:45 GMT
#41805
On June 05 2015 20:43 goody153 wrote:
all the juggs i see in SEA build aghs first and it kills me inside


I did the same and had over 70% winratio with him. Now I rarely build aghs and my WR drop under 63% hmm....
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 11:46:46
June 05 2015 11:46 GMT
#41806
yea i think aghs is actually secretly legit as fk and only dumbasses know about it
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 05 2015 11:48 GMT
#41807
i used to go phase drums yasha aghs before the MoM craze
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 05 2015 11:49 GMT
#41808
and qb not working on rosh
making jugg suck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 11:50:07
June 05 2015 11:49 GMT
#41809
On June 05 2015 20:48 icystorage wrote:
i used to go phase drums yasha aghs before the MoM craze

yea before the mom craze (bat buff + base damage buff), i think aghs mjoll was one of the most popular builds...

oh yea i forgot about the rosh nerf. ive actually felt that effect; its pretty annoying to solo now
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44296 Posts
June 05 2015 11:50 GMT
#41810
now you guys are just killing me inside for building the aghs first jugg
this is a quote
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
June 05 2015 11:56 GMT
#41811
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dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
June 05 2015 12:16 GMT
#41812
Gravity too hard.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
June 05 2015 12:31 GMT
#41813
never felt that jug was good
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 05 2015 12:44 GMT
#41814
I love playing jugg, but aghs first jugg players need to be thrown in LPQ for poor life choices. Same with people who go aghs first on doom.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
June 05 2015 12:50 GMT
#41815
If Doom is against let's say a PA thats having a good time then aghs rush sounds pretty reasonable to me.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 12:56:33
June 05 2015 12:55 GMT
#41816
aghs rush doom is legit

juggernaut - not so much
High Risk Low Reward
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44296 Posts
June 05 2015 12:59 GMT
#41817
rushed aghs doom is indeed good .. you can actually just solo kill anybody with just being at their presence with aghs

but ofcourse don't buy aghs yet without midas+dagger+bottle+ tranqs
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 13:04:59
June 05 2015 13:04 GMT
#41818
If it's good, I have never experienced it because the Dooms in 2K ranking don't understand they are supposed to do stuff when doom is off cool down. Or they just doom the first support they see because its easy and they are bad.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
June 05 2015 13:05 GMT
#41819
On June 05 2015 22:04 Plansix wrote:
If it's good, I have never experienced it because the Dooms in 2K ranking don't understand they are supposed to do stuff when doom is off cool down. Or they just doom the first support they see because its easy and they are bad.

farming counts as doing stuff
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
June 05 2015 13:07 GMT
#41820
Note that these days you need aghs to disable passives and having that aghs is a huge deal in shutting down some passive reliant carries is what I'm saying.

I think that the ability to chase people across the map it gives is a secondary and somewhat gimmicky benefit next to disabling passives.
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