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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
June 05 2015 01:16 GMT
#41761
plenty of bad ones are as well
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 05 2015 01:22 GMT
#41762
On June 05 2015 10:11 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 10:00 TheEmulator wrote:
You what mate? I guess your new job pays well, holy fuck.

lol yes (good) devs are spoiled


that edit.

I think my DAC compendium was the highest level one I had. Cause I wanted that Alch immortal lol.

I've been wanting to get the enigma bracers but been holding off buying levels
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 05 2015 01:44 GMT
#41763
On June 05 2015 10:22 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 10:11 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:00 TheEmulator wrote:
You what mate? I guess your new job pays well, holy fuck.

lol yes (good) devs are spoiled


that edit.

ya I mean I think dev skill correlates moderately well with pay (obviously plenty of exceptions, but more competitive companies tend to pay better so at least interview skill correlates moderately well with pay :p)

however afaik mediocre or straight up bad devs still make a pretty good living relative to average

so I dunno, maybe accounting for time/effort invested in learning mediocre devs are more spoiled

does this post make sense
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
June 05 2015 01:45 GMT
#41764
the enemy sf who has 700 more party mmr than my solo insta rage quits lol
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 05 2015 01:48 GMT
#41765
On June 05 2015 10:44 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 10:22 rebdomine wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:11 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:00 TheEmulator wrote:
You what mate? I guess your new job pays well, holy fuck.

lol yes (good) devs are spoiled


that edit.

ya I mean I think dev skill correlates moderately well with pay (obviously plenty of exceptions, but more competitive companies tend to pay better so at least interview skill correlates moderately well with pay :p)

however afaik mediocre or straight up bad devs still make a pretty good living relative to average

so I dunno, maybe accounting for time/effort invested in learning mediocre devs are more spoiled

does this post make sense


how would you define mediocre?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-05 01:55:32
June 05 2015 01:49 GMT
#41766
On June 05 2015 10:48 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 10:44 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:22 rebdomine wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:11 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:00 TheEmulator wrote:
You what mate? I guess your new job pays well, holy fuck.

lol yes (good) devs are spoiled


that edit.

ya I mean I think dev skill correlates moderately well with pay (obviously plenty of exceptions, but more competitive companies tend to pay better so at least interview skill correlates moderately well with pay :p)

however afaik mediocre or straight up bad devs still make a pretty good living relative to average

so I dunno, maybe accounting for time/effort invested in learning mediocre devs are more spoiled

does this post make sense


how would you define mediocre?

I've got no idea lol my post is terrible

well that's not true actually I care a lot about that question and have tried to form somewhat of an idea at least as it relates to interviewing, which is something I do a lot and care a lot about

However I still don't really know how I'd define mediocre

To some degree I know how I'd define "bad" (at least, again, from the perspective on an interviewer). And since I tend to follow a "if I'm unsure then the answer is no" policy w/r/t interviewing I guess for me mediocre isn't a particular meaningful label, as it just means "less bad but still no". I've also been lucky enough to work with, on average, very talented devs for the past few years. I guess I can think of a few people that you might classify as "mediocre" where mediocre is defined as something like "either not smart or motivated enough to get good work done at a reasonable pace".

What am I even trying to say here help
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 05 2015 01:52 GMT
#41767
Disaster stack is still a mess. What a game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
June 05 2015 01:52 GMT
#41768
On June 05 2015 10:49 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 10:48 rebdomine wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:44 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:22 rebdomine wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:11 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:00 TheEmulator wrote:
You what mate? I guess your new job pays well, holy fuck.

lol yes (good) devs are spoiled


that edit.

ya I mean I think dev skill correlates moderately well with pay (obviously plenty of exceptions, but more competitive companies tend to pay better so at least interview skill correlates moderately well with pay :p)

however afaik mediocre or straight up bad devs still make a pretty good living relative to average

so I dunno, maybe accounting for time/effort invested in learning mediocre devs are more spoiled

does this post make sense


how would you define mediocre?

I've got no idea lol my post is terrible


I have no idea how to rate myself as a developer even lol. I never really study on my own time and usually just look things up if I need to find out new things. Usually just do enough to get the job done without breaking anything.

Does that make me mediocre?

I have worked with bad devs though. Guys who just seem to keep breaking stuff or keep checking in their stuff over other people's code. lol. And it's easy to tell that the guy is still getting paid a good amount.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
June 05 2015 01:53 GMT
#41769
On June 05 2015 09:38 BurningSera wrote:
i want to see the face of the people who maxed out their compendium before this rofl

ok i want that rex

GABEN!!! *wrings fist*

Bought level 50 compendium + 24 levels * 8 for a total of level 242. I have since gained 5 levels, and am now level 247. Ah well...

(I make fewer but bigger purchases most of the time.)
"The drums! The drums! The drums! The neverending drumbeat! Open me, you human fool! Open the light and summon me and receive my majesty!"
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 05 2015 01:56 GMT
#41770
On June 05 2015 10:52 rebdomine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2015 10:49 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:48 rebdomine wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:44 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:22 rebdomine wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:11 eieio wrote:
On June 05 2015 10:00 TheEmulator wrote:
You what mate? I guess your new job pays well, holy fuck.

lol yes (good) devs are spoiled


that edit.

ya I mean I think dev skill correlates moderately well with pay (obviously plenty of exceptions, but more competitive companies tend to pay better so at least interview skill correlates moderately well with pay :p)

however afaik mediocre or straight up bad devs still make a pretty good living relative to average

so I dunno, maybe accounting for time/effort invested in learning mediocre devs are more spoiled

does this post make sense


how would you define mediocre?

I've got no idea lol my post is terrible


I have no idea how to rate myself as a developer even lol. I never really study on my own time and usually just look things up if I need to find out new things. Usually just do enough to get the job done without breaking anything.

Does that make me mediocre?

I have worked with bad devs though. Guys who just seem to keep breaking stuff or keep checking in their stuff over other people's code. lol. And it's easy to tell that the guy is still getting paid a good amount.


i'm mediocre. not really satisfied with the pay but im also not confident with my skills to look for another job or ask a raise
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 05 2015 02:07 GMT
#41771
On June 05 2015 10:52 Plansix wrote:
Disaster stack is still a mess. What a game.


no reason it should have been, i should have just picked up wards with my money instead of other shit so i could see into their woods.

i was exhausted.

oh well.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 05 2015 02:16 GMT
#41772
somebody want to gift me that dk set? i can gift you spectre back
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
June 05 2015 02:30 GMT
#41773
On June 05 2015 11:16 HighTimeDotA wrote:
somebody want to gift me that dk set? i can gift you spectre back


dismantled mine for compendium levels :/ if I decide to go for another round I'll keep you in mind.

Honestly this chest was wp by valve. I'm pretty sure with the amount of levels I got, I eclipsed what I would have gotten with Points alone.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
June 05 2015 02:36 GMT
#41774
man dk is so good right now
HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 05 2015 02:36 GMT
#41775
i bought 3 cuz why not im poor anyways might aswell waste 8bux lol. hard life trying to make 20k during the summer.

got tusk and venge if anybody wants to trade dk for it.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 05 2015 02:59 GMT
#41776
anyone playing superior superior moba with the promotion going
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
June 05 2015 03:01 GMT
#41777
nah I'm too busy spending $10 on hearthstone to get a new animation for my warrior hero power
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
June 05 2015 03:03 GMT
#41778
mfw I see the guy who ruined two of my games yesterday on the opposite team for once!!!!
Administrator
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
June 05 2015 03:15 GMT
#41779
brie and dried salami sandwich with paesano bread

mmmmmmmmmmm

today was a good day + Show Spoiler +
I didn't even have to use my AK
LiquidDota Staff
TL+ Member
Thetwinmasters
Profile Joined January 2015
3578 Posts
June 05 2015 03:23 GMT
#41780
alright got 4 level 11 drops from 11 chests still no golden immortals fml
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