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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 04 2015 18:03 GMT
#32001
On May 05 2015 02:52 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 02:29 andyrau wrote:
On May 05 2015 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
visage birds are goddamn unkillable, PL is exactly as broken as last patch really (which is to say very). Dunno if tinker can really sustain an extra 130 mana for glimmercloak but pre-manacost it was just dumb.

i dont think the visage change was necessary, just make them invulnerable to axe spins imo

also idk how to deal with a decently farmed pl as a support
the instant he sees you, he'll just lance/zerg you and you're fucking dead. and by 'decently farmed' i actually mean a pl with a diffusal blade
maybe i'm just bad or something

Glimmer cape into the trees and run for your life? I hate playing against PL and PA as support because its so easy for them stick to you if they catch you out.

it's easier to deal with pa though, you just ghost scepter

with pl that shit is impossible

On May 05 2015 02:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 02:50 andyrau wrote:
oh yea and silver edge fuckign wrecks huskar so hard

bkb does fix it although bkb on huskar always feels unfortunate, it's required.

yea idk so many spells going through his magic res makes the hero feel pretty underwhelming
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 04 2015 18:04 GMT
#32002
On May 05 2015 02:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 01:12 Erasme wrote:
On May 05 2015 01:03 teddyoojo wrote:
pretty sure my combined dota2+sc2 skill is higher than selects

dont you have less achievements than him in both games ?


I like to refer as the dedicated average.

Tons of hours.
Average ranks:

CSGO: Gold Nova 3
StarCraft II: Diamond
Super Smash 4: 60% winrate
League: Gold way back then?
HoN: dont even remember

that seems all above average
but while we all like to bash select for his plays in dota, he still played better than teddys team since they were against t1/t2/t3 teams
lets not be dumb and hateful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
May 04 2015 18:04 GMT
#32003
On May 05 2015 01:22 Plansix wrote:
Guys, this thing is terrifying

http://io9.com/watch-the-atrias-bipedal-robot-take-a-stroll-in-the-par-1701982353

Like, I get that we want to advance science and robots are cool. But creepy walking robot was not what I signed up for.

I was expecting some japanese humanoid uncanny valley thing, this looks like boston dynamics stuff but they managed to do it for bipedal robots which is cool
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 18:10:18
May 04 2015 18:09 GMT
#32004
On May 05 2015 03:04 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 02:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 05 2015 01:12 Erasme wrote:
On May 05 2015 01:03 teddyoojo wrote:
pretty sure my combined dota2+sc2 skill is higher than selects

dont you have less achievements than him in both games ?


I like to refer as the dedicated average.

Tons of hours.
Average ranks:

CSGO: Gold Nova 3
StarCraft II: Diamond
Super Smash 4: 60% winrate
League: Gold way back then?
HoN: dont even remember

that seems all above average
but while we all like to bash select for his plays in dota, he still played better than teddys team since they were against t1/t2/t3 teams
lets not be dumb and hateful


Those all sound like at best 90th percentile in those games, select was at least 99.5th percentile in both inferiormoba and dedmoba2
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 04 2015 18:12 GMT
#32005
torte's post really has nothing to do with either teddy or select lets be real
its just how bad he is at various games that he fiended
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
May 04 2015 18:15 GMT
#32006
well you gotta be at least six sigma to be a pro in anything
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 04 2015 18:17 GMT
#32007
I mean, 90th percentile isn't that bad
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 18:19:02
May 04 2015 18:18 GMT
#32008
yeah but none of those are 90th percentile outside of diamond sctoo being 80th-97th right?
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 04 2015 18:20 GMT
#32009
cs and lol are both around 90th percentile, though obviously gold in NA or EU is ... maybe 40th percentile globally
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 18:24:28
May 04 2015 18:21 GMT
#32010
? GN3 isn't even close to 90th percentile by any stretch of the imagination

if nothing else it's 9th out of 18 ranks although we can't really say for certain that rank distribution is equal, theres a 0.00000% chance that its 90th percentile.

I'll admit I have no idea what league ranks go to
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
May 04 2015 18:28 GMT
#32011
League is bronze-silver-gold-platinum-diamond-masters-challenger, with 5 sub ranks in every one except master/challenger.
Steam: rook492
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
May 04 2015 18:30 GMT
#32012
Seems unlikely that gold would really be 90th percentile there as well but whatever
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 04 2015 18:31 GMT
#32013
Does League still do the soul killing "advancement matches" when you get to the top of your ladder?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
May 04 2015 18:33 GMT
#32014
On May 05 2015 03:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Seems unlikely that gold would really be 90th percentile there as well but whatever

im pretty sure league follows the sc2 system
where you dont have 20% in each rank
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12152 Posts
May 04 2015 18:33 GMT
#32015
Who is this gspot streamer with 2k viewers?
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 04 2015 18:34 GMT
#32016
On May 05 2015 03:33 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 03:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
Seems unlikely that gold would really be 90th percentile there as well but whatever

im pretty sure league follows the sc2 system
where you dont have 20% in each rank

I thought sc2 had 20% in each league except diamond which was 18% and masters which was 2%
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 18:38:40
May 04 2015 18:35 GMT
#32017
Well yeah they said that and then they introduced mmr decay and the ladder was like 30% 40% 10% 5% 4% etc

This has ostensibly been somewhat fixed but i'm not sure how much.
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 18:41:21
May 04 2015 18:39 GMT
#32018
I haven't played seriously since 2011 early 2012 I wonder if that happened after I quit or if I just don't remember o.o

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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 18:49:45
May 04 2015 18:39 GMT
#32019
There is a site with regional distribution per rank, but I think around 50% of players were silver1/gold5 or worse since before this season you couldn't drop tiers except by decay, which they changed for gold and below. I'll look for it in a few hours when I get home.

@p6, yes, bo3 for divisional promos, i.e. gold 4 to gold 3 etc, bo5 for tier, i.e. plat 1 to diamond 5.
Steam: rook492
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 04 2015 19:18 GMT
#32020
Eh, those promotion games are far worse than any MMR grinding. Nothing was more crushing that having your team go full flame/surrender spam when you got into your promotion matches.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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