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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:32:30
May 04 2015 15:31 GMT
#31961
On May 05 2015 00:28 teddyoojo wrote:
that just reminded me of something i wanted to bring up
given how the csgo na scene is almost as abysmal as the na dota scene (apart from eg) its rather interesting that they still appear to be earning a very decent amount of money which is a pretty big contrast to dota

Keep in mind NA dota teams have to compete with EU teams to be relevant
the same is not the case in CS where you exclusively compete with your region outside of international LANs, and the NA fanbase is large enough to sustain local teams. Basically getting shit on at international lans isn't THAT relevant when u can just make money beating other NA players most of the time haha.

@others re scarlett: it suits my narrative for her to be the (un-qualified) "best" even if she isn't that serious atm and/or isn't currently the best.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 04 2015 15:33 GMT
#31962
You don't need to be the best in the world to make a living, despite what Esports says.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7754 Posts
May 04 2015 15:35 GMT
#31963
On May 05 2015 00:31 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:29 PoulsenB wrote:
On May 05 2015 00:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
On May 05 2015 00:26 eieio wrote:
winner of TSL2 was American

Jinro won MLG Dallas on American soil

(thats a checkmate)

Isn't Jinro Swedish?
On May 05 2015 00:26 PoulsenB wrote:
On May 05 2015 00:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd like to point out that the best foreign SC2 player is also North American


Wait, Snute is North American now? Who would have thought... ;p

Also, Polt doesn't count, even if he's the "Captain America" ;]

-_- u know i meant scarlett


Isn't Scarlett retired/taking a break from SC2 now? Or did she un-retire? I haven't been following the Starcraft scene for a few months now.

But yeah she was the best at one point, no doubt about it.

did you miss that glorious thread of her wanting to learn and compete on dota 2 scene ?

also scarlett isn't the best .. it's gotta be Bunny/Snute/Naniwa


I didn't miss it, actually it was precisely what I meant when i said "retired"

And, yeah, now she isn't the best, but there was a time last year when no foreigner could contest her position, except maybe Nani when he was playing seriously and not bitching at some made up shit.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 04 2015 15:36 GMT
#31964
my point being is that money in dota is shit while cs is healthy
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44291 Posts
May 04 2015 15:37 GMT
#31965
dota probably has the biggest earners out of all esports however it's very very top heavy
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 04 2015 15:38 GMT
#31966
I bet that is because CS is easier to sell to NA sponsors and get more money in general. The whole "its like that CoD game that sells all those copies every year" has to be a good pitch for the non-gaming people.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:39:46
May 04 2015 15:38 GMT
#31967
On May 05 2015 00:36 teddyoojo wrote:
my point being is that money in dota is shit while cs is healthy

That just isn't true at all
the money ur referring to in CS is from the top 1 NA team
u don't think EG would offer $20,000 signing bonus to a dota player that they want? ur dreaming.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 04 2015 15:40 GMT
#31968
im talking more about the hikos comment how most players on na teams now are earning ~2,5k/month
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44291 Posts
May 04 2015 15:40 GMT
#31969
I wonder how much Team Secret got from that polish(?) millionaire sponsorship.

Also remember rabbit and xiao8 having $160k or something transfer fee.
this is a quote
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:42:18
May 04 2015 15:42 GMT
#31970
I think this is the part where I point out that TL is perfectly fine with a crappy T2 CSGO team but still no dota team
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
May 04 2015 15:42 GMT
#31971
On May 05 2015 00:40 goody153 wrote:
I wonder how much Team Secret got from that polish(?) millionaire sponsorship.

Also remember rabbit and xiao8 having $160k or something transfer fee.

i thought he was turkish
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7754 Posts
May 04 2015 15:42 GMT
#31972
On May 05 2015 00:40 goody153 wrote:
I wonder how much Team Secret got from that polish(?) millionaire sponsorship.

Also remember rabbit and xiao8 having $160k or something transfer fee.


I think the millionaire dude is Turkish, not Polish.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
May 04 2015 15:43 GMT
#31973
On May 05 2015 00:42 tehh4ck3r wrote:
I think this is the part where I point out that TL is perfectly fine with a crappy T2 CSGO team but still no dota team

Name me the Dota team TL could pick up that we would be happy with?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44291 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:44:04
May 04 2015 15:43 GMT
#31974
i knew it he wasn't polish (i forgot too lazy to google to make sure)

On May 05 2015 00:43 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:42 tehh4ck3r wrote:
I think this is the part where I point out that TL is perfectly fine with a crappy T2 CSGO team but still no dota team

Name me the Dota team TL could pick up that we would be happy with?

r u fucking kidding me

void boys obv.
this is a quote
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:43:41
May 04 2015 15:43 GMT
#31975
TL almost had a top 2 na csgo team with hiko/ska/adren/nitro/somebody i forget exactly who but ska went for the money (and apparently didn't want to sign with liquid)
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 04 2015 15:46 GMT
#31976
well no ska and hiko wouldve played with the 3 liquid ppl but they wouldnt want to sign to liquid (cuz i assume naz wouldnt want to afford them) and the 3 liquid ppl didnt want to leave the liquid organisation cuz apparently being an incredibly mediocre team is worth it if u are being paid ok its the LIQUID DREAM across many games amiright
the skadoodle going to c9 happened after that
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-04 15:49:18
May 04 2015 15:46 GMT
#31977
On May 05 2015 00:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:26 eieio wrote:
winner of TSL2 was American

Jinro won MLG Dallas on American soil

(thats a checkmate)

Isn't Jinro Swedish?
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:26 PoulsenB wrote:
On May 05 2015 00:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
I'd like to point out that the best foreign SC2 player is also North American


Wait, Snute is North American now? Who would have thought... ;p

Also, Polt doesn't count, even if he's the "Captain America" ;]

-_- u know i meant scarlett

pretty sure scarlett isnt the best foreigner since u know the dota incident
w0w others already pointed that out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 04 2015 16:00 GMT
#31978
scarlett best combined dota2 and sc2 skills

take that selecT
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TL+ Member
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 04 2015 16:03 GMT
#31979
pretty sure my combined dota2+sc2 skill is higher than selects
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
May 04 2015 16:04 GMT
#31980
select wrekt my cheesy gas first TvT build the only time I got to play him =/

he thought I was drewbie smurfing tho lol
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