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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 29 2015 01:13 Plansix wrote: The best part of the patch is people theory crafting spell vamp builds and totally forgetting that the item costs over 5K gold and is a pretty bad first item. There are worse first items than complete mana solutions (for most heroes) with 400 hp tacked on but w/e | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/images/thumb/4/49/4CloverAndLepricon.png/441px-4CloverAndLepricon.png) that item is still a worse mana solution than bloodstone for the heroes that arguably want it most, lesh and timber | ||
BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
if you look at supports like AA right now who go midas -> agha, whats to stop other supports with strong natural skillsets that only need levels from doing the same thing except going for octarine core instead. its only 1.5kish more gold so it'll take a little longer than the agha but would it be worth it? maybe. just thinking about the possibilities here no flamerino pls | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
it has to be heroes with extended DPS that can survive initial bursts in fights in the first place, which some heroes probably couldn't do even with a soul booster's worth of HP (might be nice on core skywrath but core skywrath is so volatile/snowball dependent lol) | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
aa aghs is like good whereas (insert hero here) octarine sucks dick where (insert hero here) is like 80% of supports. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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SKC
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On April 29 2015 01:21 SKC wrote: People aren't theorycrafting Octarine builds for supports. wow way to invalidate bluemoon's feelings shitlord | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 29 2015 01:19 BluemoonSC wrote: im not saying that AA will want it first or that octarine will be an AA item..im just saying that there is a precedent for picking up a midas, then rushing a big item. I mean aghs is hardly a big item its 4.2k gold and aghs is a fundamental game changer on the heros u buy it on, whereas octarine core is like a slight improvement. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
imagine being able to cast shadow wave once every 4ish seconds again im not trying to imply that i endorse anything, just think of the possibilities | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On April 29 2015 01:23 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: wow way to invalidate bluemoon's feelings shitlord He actually didn't theorycraft any build for any support. He just said if supports can rush Aghs, they could also rush the new items. The builds people are theorycrafting are ussually on stuff like Lesh, Zeus, Bristle, Necro, etc. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
4.5 sec cd on normal fireblast 4.5 sec cd on unrefined with a kotl behind him reducing his cd by 4 seconds every 16 seconds the dream | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On April 29 2015 01:27 SKC wrote: Building the item just for the CD reduction is stupid. It's the Spell Vamp that makes it look broken. You will never buy it just to stun every 6 seconds. tell that to experimental pubs ROFL | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
On April 29 2015 01:27 SKC wrote: Building the item just for the CD reduction is stupid. It's the Spell Vamp that makes it look broken. You will never buy it just to stun every 6 seconds. well think about someone like ogre..healed to full. cast your shadow wave on a surrounded hero..healed to full. i agree its better on cores like bristle and necro and zeus (all three of which will never be killable) but i think the hp and regen is important too..the cdr is sick..and the lifesteal if you use your abilities right and thats just dirty. or like...imagine a CM ulti with that item LOL | ||
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SKC
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