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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 15:16 GMT
#30441
On April 29 2015 00:14 BluemoonSC wrote:
yeah this patch should be fun as fuck. or annoying as fuck i cant decide which yet.

ugh my cousin just posted that stupid ESPN video we were talking about yesterday. time to disown him.

Ask him why he agrees with a grumpy old man that said he would cover poker, but then bitches about video games?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 15:17 GMT
#30442
On April 29 2015 00:15 goody153 wrote:
i hope PA gets nerfed to the ground motherfucker is literally invincible at times and even kids can use the hero

how is this hero not nerfed at least meepo takes time to learn .. PA is like most of dota 2 players favorite like everybody can play the hero fuck

I love her to death, but she has unlimited short comings. Specifically she can't do shit if people have BKBs because she can't blink.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 28 2015 15:17 GMT
#30443
TIL octarine core is a homage to terry pratchett
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 15:18 GMT
#30444
On April 29 2015 00:16 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 00:14 BluemoonSC wrote:
yeah this patch should be fun as fuck. or annoying as fuck i cant decide which yet.

ugh my cousin just posted that stupid ESPN video we were talking about yesterday. time to disown him.

Ask him why he agrees with a grumpy old man that said he would cover poker, but then bitches about video games?


even worse..ESPN2 airs pool and bowling

l o l
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 28 2015 15:19 GMT
#30445
On April 29 2015 00:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 00:07 ahswtini wrote:
On April 29 2015 00:03 TheYango wrote:
At least it doesn't crash the game anymore, lol.

EDIT: Why the fuck does double Overcharge even work, it's 2 instances of the same buff, lol.

pretty sure kunkka's rum is the same

That's how it works in DotA 1, DotA 2 just refreshes the buff duration.

That's why I'm confused why double overcharge stacks in DotA 2.

it might actually not lol, I will test while awake today
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 15:20:01
April 28 2015 15:19 GMT
#30446
On April 29 2015 00:15 goody153 wrote:
i hope PA gets nerfed to the ground motherfucker is literally invincible at times and even kids can use the hero

how is this hero not nerfed at least meepo takes time to learn .. PA is like most of dota 2 players favorite like everybody can play the hero fuck

*ahem*
qq thread is
<<<< that way

but new sangedowblade is a good pa nerf I think. Although the hex change is a huge pa buff so... *shrug*
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
April 28 2015 15:20 GMT
#30447
idk I'd say qq thread is more like ^^< that way relative to your post
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 15:20 GMT
#30448
yeah its a more accessible way for carries like slark that don't want to rush mkb to get kills on her. opens the door for some more soft counters and forces her to get a bkb.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 15:21 GMT
#30449
Existing on the Dota 2 map forces PA to get a BKB most of the time.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44290 Posts
April 28 2015 15:21 GMT
#30450
the hex makes it worst .. not like mkb was the only answer to the retarded hero or anything
this is a quote
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 28 2015 15:21 GMT
#30451
On April 29 2015 00:20 BluemoonSC wrote:
yeah its a more accessible way for carries like slark that don't want to rush mkb to get kills on her. opens the door for some more soft counters and forces her to get a bkb.

idk like early-mid slark's magic burst is actually really good against her. most pa's will get bkb anyway
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 15:24 GMT
#30452
On April 29 2015 00:21 Plansix wrote:
Existing on the Dota 2 map forces PA to get a BKB most of the time.


yes, but in what order do you get it in?

On April 29 2015 00:21 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 00:20 BluemoonSC wrote:
yeah its a more accessible way for carries like slark that don't want to rush mkb to get kills on her. opens the door for some more soft counters and forces her to get a bkb.

idk like early-mid slark's magic burst is actually really good against her. most pa's will get bkb anyway


it's true but im not just thinking about slark here
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44290 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 15:29:06
April 28 2015 15:25 GMT
#30453
pretty sure most PA's rush bkb

also unlike bkb you can't rush mkb on all heroes. and even if you try to rush it it's extremely expensive like wtf is wrong with the hero

honestly at least they should make PA a lot more harder and make the hero pay for positioning mistakes. or just remove the vision from the dagger or maybe you know make the attack animation harder. I literally played 1 game of PA and i can mostly achieve perfect last hit on the hero the second time i played her.
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 15:27 GMT
#30454
She has enough flaws at it is, I don't really see a need to nerfed her any further over other heroes. The dagger vision is one of the most useful parts of that hero.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 15:29 GMT
#30455
well you pointed out one of the weaknesses of the hero, she's pretty squishy.

idk i mean you don't really want to get bkb first item right now bc you'll whittle down your charges pretty quickly.

but i agree that most heroes in the meta just rip into her tho..lina for instance. which is why i don't really think she's super op. just lucky
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 15:30 GMT
#30456
I think the lina nerf is bigger than people are giving it credit for
now aghs is actually a question and euls combo cost is a lot steeper.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 15:30 GMT
#30457
Just draft WW and she is stupid, even with a BKB.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 15:33 GMT
#30458
ww is going to shatter captains mode too holy shit
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 28 2015 15:34 GMT
#30459
wish oracle was unchanged and he was added to cm instead of ww

new oracle is more broken but old oracle was probably less broken
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44290 Posts
April 28 2015 15:37 GMT
#30460
She's too easy to use man that's the problem. Make her harder make people work for how retarded the hero is like meepo/es/naga. Or add more mute abilities on the game so that there are answers to the hero and punish the baddies who just yolo dive on shit positioning but still win cause RNGesus and not try to buildup to mkb/hex who is expensive as fuck and hard to build up. At least give people option to punish those who aren't at positioning PA some just get super lucky crit+miss all the way when diving on bad positions.

At least pubstompers like storm and TA actually punish the baddies.

Like there's a period 2 or 3 weeks ago that the stack i play with go burst heroes and i picked lina for the PA cause fuck that hero. Yes i pick OP heroes against her
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