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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
April 28 2015 16:45 GMT
#30521
or just pick zeus and kill her with 3 spells
or lina
wow its almost like ench didnt need damage but HP all along
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 28 2015 16:46 GMT
#30522
shadow amulet was already fine for taht kind of stuff, especially if you timed the fade correctly. did you see that reddit thread with the shadow amulet > blink > cm ult suddenly appears with invis cm timing?

feel like they usually weren't getting killed in invis in those situations by magic damage, it was just stuns that would interrupt or detection killing their faces

the faster fade time is nice when you dont have blink though for sure
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 16:53 GMT
#30523
Supports could also escape with it, since you can move. Seems like a nice item on a couple heroes, if a bit pricey. Not sure if its better than a blink dagger.

Oh, you can use it on other heroes, thats much better than I thought.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
April 28 2015 16:54 GMT
#30524
that new cloak item looks rly good
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 16:55 GMT
#30525
w0w beesa approved
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 28 2015 16:55 GMT
#30526
stacking MR is certainly a riot-approved way to counterplay 100-to-0 burst mages with high CDR and spell vamp
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#30527
It seems like a much better support item than I give its credit for. You could save a core with it as a support or use it on them to set up a fight. Or on yourself to set up your ult.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 16:58:04
April 28 2015 16:56 GMT
#30528
the cloak thing seems tailor made for heroes that want to be able to get off their long channeling ults without getting killed.
cm, bane, enigma maybe a few more.
The price is right, thats for sure.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 16:59:46
April 28 2015 16:59 GMT
#30529
Thing is u can move with it too its actually sickkkkkkkk
and 80% total magic resistance (factoring base resist, both bonuses) is a TON.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 28 2015 16:59 GMT
#30530
On April 29 2015 01:56 PassiveAce wrote:
the cloak thing seems tailor made for heroes that want to be able to get off their long channeling ults without getting killed.
cm, bane, enigma maybe a few more.
The price is right, thats for sure.

even aside from that, you just try to cast it 0.4 seconds before any nukes you think are gonna hit you and your allies and the damage gets massively reduced
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 17:02:07
April 28 2015 17:00 GMT
#30531
for less then 2k gold it seems like a fantastic item to me.

Im also very very excited about the new wand.
4 to all stats at its price is incredible value considering the active
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
April 28 2015 17:01 GMT
#30532
I'm thinking Weaver could be fun next patch. Level 1 bugs are even better, so there's even less need to level them up, Desolator much better, dope aghs upgrade, super medallion looks sick too.
super gg
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 17:01 GMT
#30533
they basically gave oracle's ulti to an item..physical dmg still hurts but the nukes are nearly negated altogether. dayum.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 17:02 GMT
#30534
On April 29 2015 02:01 BluemoonSC wrote:
they basically gave oracle's ulti to an item..physical dmg still hurts but the nukes are nearly negated altogether. dayum.

?
not even remotely similar rofl
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
April 28 2015 17:03 GMT
#30535
On April 29 2015 02:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 02:01 BluemoonSC wrote:
they basically gave oracle's ulti to an item..physical dmg still hurts but the nukes are nearly negated altogether. dayum.

?
not even remotely similar rofl


invis plus damage negation?

do you honestly think i believe its is literally the same things as oracle ulti
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 28 2015 17:04 GMT
#30536
super medallion feels a little awk because when you used medallion offensively you weren't usually worried about them beating you in a manfight anyway, so the miss chance seems superfluous

giving evasion to allies seems nice against certain carries though
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 17:06:20
April 28 2015 17:05 GMT
#30537
the miss chance will be nice against rightclickers during teamfights when they can easily switch targets
problem i see is that at 3000 gold the window between when you get the item and when they get their bkbs is probably pretty small if it even exists.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 28 2015 17:05 GMT
#30538
Yeah, super medallion is way better defensively than offensively but if ur using medallion defensively u kinda have issues
its pretty op vs rosh I guess though rofl.

I really really need to play with this lotus orb thing though it still doesn't make sense to me even if I understand the mechanics in a vacuum.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 28 2015 17:08 GMT
#30539
On April 29 2015 02:05 PassiveAce wrote:
the miss chance will be nice against rightclickers during teamfights when they can easily switch targets
problem i see is that at 3000 gold the window between when you get the item and when they get their bkbs is probably pretty small if it even exists.

medallion goes through bkb, i assume this new thing will too...?
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 28 2015 17:08 GMT
#30540
even the miss chance?
pretty cool if it does but id be a bit surprised
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