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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-12 17:16:23
June 12 2021 17:16 GMT
#208701
Jesus fuk
Unreal
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 12 2021 17:29 GMT
#208702
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
June 12 2021 18:36 GMT
#208703
EG is doing it again, and again I have no expectations
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 12 2021 20:34 GMT
#208704
i mean, EG obviously want to win.
You want them to win.
But isn't it nice enough that they got to the finals?
As a fan, I'd be fine with that. As a player, I probably wouldn't be in the finals with that mindset though.
passive quaranstream fan
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-12 21:22:36
June 12 2021 21:20 GMT
#208705
I usually don't have to code in java too much anymore but whenever I do I spend about 75% of my time fighting maven, eclipse, and svn.

I finally found out why the project I'm on has a batshit insane design. The guy before me was a random guy with 0 technical knowledge. Finally realized why he had that role. The guy before him was really good at what he did but then retired and opened a consulting firm for the product we are using in the middle of the rollout for this project on 2014-15. The company refuses to pay for him to do any work for them, so the sane setup wound up getting tossed aside and the development, easy to setup style that has flashing red lights saying "DO NOT USE IN PRODUCTION" wound up getting used in production. It is fine at light loads but the heavier they get the more it just redirects transactions into a closed tcp connection, eventually crashing. So I wound up writing a Cron job to kill the processes if they were redirecting to an invalid port.

If you're wondering, it is oracle documaker and our old system used Ibm MQ. This system uses the "developer only" http queuing instead. The problem is that internally it also uses loopback http addresses to communicate between processes... So it can accidentally dump web requests into the wrong pool if too many arrive.

And so now I have to dust off the 2015 code for the communicating web service that used mq (and it was already really dated then) and update it to work today. The problem is that my managers keep saying not to do any large work on the system cuz they want to stop using it, but they've been saying that for 5+ years now. Additionally, our current load's rate of growth will overwhelm this design inside of 7 months and it would take at least 18 months and 5 more people to switch away, imo.

Additionally, it is generally on my head if it dies.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 12 2021 21:47 GMT
#208706
Sounds like a textbook expectation managment task to me?
passive quaranstream fan
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
June 13 2021 02:27 GMT
#208707
On June 12 2021 20:03 Slomo wrote:
Do you need professional help?

I took several steps to ensure that it doesn't happen again, involving reaching out to people when my urges arise and to get better mental health resources to control my manic episodes
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
June 13 2021 06:51 GMT
#208708
On June 13 2021 05:34 Artisreal wrote:
i mean, EG obviously want to win.
You want them to win.
But isn't it nice enough that they got to the finals?
As a fan, I'd be fine with that. As a player, I probably wouldn't be in the finals with that mindset though.

I'm just mentally preparing myself for another disappointment
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 13 2021 07:45 GMT
#208709
Is second place really a disappointment though?
If you look at it after the first shock of loss.

Can we as fans have the expectation of our team doing not just well but the best? Are we supporting the competitive drive by being demanding with a pinch of compassion instead of the other way round?
Of course there's no general rule but I'm interested whether being pushed by fan's expectations is detrimental or helps.
passive quaranstream fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-13 08:12:45
June 13 2021 08:12 GMT
#208710
I'm not saying their results are bad, they have been very good for a long time now, but it's been ages since they went the full distance and won a big tournament. I just want my boy Artour to win, but I lost hope he can do it with EG.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 13 2021 08:42 GMT
#208711
We'll find out in about 14 hours
passive quaranstream fan
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
June 13 2021 10:48 GMT
#208712
We'll see.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 13 2021 13:42 GMT
#208713
EG should beat T1 without much issues

i think
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 13 2021 14:47 GMT
#208714
french team in final poggers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-06-13 16:06:07
June 13 2021 16:05 GMT
#208715
EG still probably gonna win this losers finals but i'm just happy T1 fought hard enough and made it worth the watch
this is a quote
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
June 13 2021 16:35 GMT
#208716
omg goody is back
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
June 13 2021 16:38 GMT
#208717
goody, how are ya doing dude, good to see you back
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44230 Posts
June 13 2021 17:16 GMT
#208718
hey guys

i'm good good just got a little busy with stuff
this is a quote
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7711 Posts
June 13 2021 17:29 GMT
#208719
EG in the grand finals. I ain't gonna say nothing.
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
June 13 2021 17:56 GMT
#208720
Oh boy I just hope it's not a 3:0 for any of the teams
passive quaranstream fan
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