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rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-07 12:13:44
March 07 2020 12:11 GMT
#205141
On March 07 2020 20:33 Yurie wrote:
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On March 06 2020 21:07 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Kaifuku Jutsushi no Yarinaoshi is getting an anime, it's sick. 10/10


Decided to check out a few reviews and this was the opinion of the manga at least.
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Juvenile and repugnant rape fantasy


So it is a hentai they are making?

its more of a teenager-level revenge fantasy-fantasy story with some erotic elements slapped in there. honestly dunno why its getting an anime but i dunno how popular it is in japan.

if its popular id be disappointed in japan
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-07 12:54:49
March 07 2020 12:47 GMT
#205142
Diabotical ran really well and was quite fun but my old doomer hands and having never played arena fps were limiting the amount of rekting achievable. Epic launcher ran fine, idk what the issue with that is.

The manga is not a hentai but it's a hilarious take on isekai power tripping. If some otaku neckbeard suddenly had godlike powers, genderswapping people just to have them be gang raped sounds way more plausible than whatever they do in all those vanilla mangas. It kinda overstays its welcome, there's only so many ways you can depict rape and gore (without even showing anything) and a demented looking MC.

It's in such bad taste that the author must be self-aware and is also just spoofing the most basic and actually creepy isekai trope where MC gets himself a (beastman) slave(s) and fucks it every 3 chapters or so (,or keeps getting cockblocked or is a cuck if it's targeted at preteens - I say cuck but I believe the Japanese term is vegetarian, sorry to all the cucks). I suppose good 80% of isekai manga is like that, it really is the saddest genre/trope of anything ever. Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo has whole chapters about the guy fucking his slave, all censored ofc. That has Harem in the name but I don't know if it ever even got to that point because something would've had to happen plotwise.

There's like 3 serious isekai works that are dece. And like 10 others that are good spoofs of all the stupid shit. But even then I think you could argue for splitting the "entering game world" types from "claimed by truck-kun" and I'm suddenly not sure if there's anything good in the latter genre. I think the necessity of violent death without having to go back as a trope as opposed to the stuck in a gameworld with no means to go back offers interesting insight into the target demographic.

My hypothesis before the study was that isekai is some of the worst shit to ever be published and after about 100-150 isekai manga I believe I can confirm this. So if you are wondering why such a sick work is getting an anime adaptation, the answer is: the rest are worse.

e. actually the manga might not even be strictly isekai itself but there's the rebirth element, it's a little bit less common fantasy trope but very similar to isekai
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
March 07 2020 14:28 GMT
#205143
Why did you put yourself through more than 10-15 isekai manga?
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Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12042 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-07 15:17:54
March 07 2020 15:12 GMT
#205144
I've gone the novel route for Isekais, mostly since tons of litrpg fall into that genre when you ignore all of VR. Been some decentish free stuff published online recently for that. Things like
Azarinth Healer
Delve
He Who Fights With Monsters
Metaworld Chronicles
Heck even The Wandering Inn is pretty good, though I think it suffers from too many view points. The same issue Wheel of Time hit where you can go 600 pages without reading about your favourite character or having much happen in their plot arc. The author publishes ~20k words a week most of the time which makes it even harder to keep up with long term.
Gilded hero was a nice surprise here as well, though the publishing speed is dismal for that.

Mother of Learning kind of fits into the genre and is generally liked.

Think the other big block similar to this is the post-apocalyptic genre. Tons of decent to good stuff there since it many times introduces a high tech or magic reason that a "normal" person gets to explore and power up in.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-07 16:17:43
March 07 2020 16:03 GMT
#205145
On March 07 2020 23:28 intotheheart wrote:
Why did you put yourself through more than 10-15 isekai manga?


I was inspired by that scene in Stand and Deliver where he goes "how do I reach these kids" and thought it would be a good idea to know a bit more but nah just slap a ban on all mangos and chinese cartoons. And in my defense most of those had 5 or so chapters.

others have done the research too

e. I started reading Brandon Sanderson and will try to reread WoT which is tough when my city library has like one copy of each book that's in English, I should probably get a kindle or something like that. I only read it to the really slow and shitty books but the series was still incomplete then. My brother read all the witcher books on his phone idk how he did that and not going to try.

Mistborn is pretty good, Elantris was kinda yikers, I left it halfway, might still finish tho. Overall I like his world building but the dialogue and characters are just a bit annoying at times. Maybe it gets better. Doesn't quite live up to the hype to me but not a complete letdown like Jim Butcher.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 07 2020 16:44 GMT
#205146
On March 08 2020 01:03 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
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On March 07 2020 23:28 intotheheart wrote:
Why did you put yourself through more than 10-15 isekai manga?


I was inspired by that scene in Stand and Deliver where he goes "how do I reach these kids" and thought it would be a good idea to know a bit more but nah just slap a ban on all mangos and chinese cartoons.

Lmao
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 07 2020 17:28 GMT
#205147
I hate how repetitive Brandon Sanderson is in his writing, I feel like he explained in great detail the same things over and over and over, especially if you read multiple of the mistborn books back to back
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28098 Posts
March 07 2020 18:10 GMT
#205148
On March 08 2020 02:28 Unleashing wrote:
I hate how repetitive Brandon Sanderson is in his writing, I feel like he explained in great detail the same things over and over and over, especially if you read multiple of the mistborn books back to back

To be honest I really liked how he handled taking over the last few Wheel of Time books after Robert Jordan passed away. I recently purchased the Mistborn books so I guess I'll see if his own work is different.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
March 07 2020 18:46 GMT
#205149
hi hjt
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
March 07 2020 19:03 GMT
#205150
hi mr.mike from the monster group inc. sir

do u need an adult to save ur mmr yet
i haven't played since my dota2 uninstalled mid-game

Sanderson certainly feels a bit over-descriptive. But if you watch his course on creative writing on youtube he is pretty unapologetic about his boner for his own magic systems. The way he goes about writing his stories is pretty formulaic but idk if I haven't read enough yet or he is just smart about inching the story forwards.
Also he goes hard on inventing terms and new words he then repeats ad infinitum. it's a bit OCD. But maybe going to this from Sapkowski accentuates that. (40 pages of dialogue and then Geralt casts a Quen sign, aight wtf is a Quen and wtf is a sign but sure) + Show Spoiler +
i know because I played the game but still
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7065 Posts
March 07 2020 21:59 GMT
#205151
diabotical is good
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
March 08 2020 02:54 GMT
#205152
just popping in to say that there are some top tier hjt posts on this page. ty sir
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 08 2020 03:05 GMT
#205153
hand sanitizer is sold out everywhere
help
© Current year.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
March 08 2020 03:22 GMT
#205154
On March 08 2020 02:28 Unleashing wrote:
I hate how repetitive Brandon Sanderson is in his writing, I feel like he explained in great detail the same things over and over and over, especially if you read multiple of the mistborn books back to back


On March 08 2020 03:10 TheEmulator wrote:
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On March 08 2020 02:28 Unleashing wrote:
I hate how repetitive Brandon Sanderson is in his writing, I feel like he explained in great detail the same things over and over and over, especially if you read multiple of the mistborn books back to back

To be honest I really liked how he handled taking over the last few Wheel of Time books after Robert Jordan passed away. I recently purchased the Mistborn books so I guess I'll see if his own work is different.


His Mistborn books are abit rougher than most of his new stuff or his short stories
this is a quote
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 08 2020 07:55 GMT
#205155
I've really enjoyed every sanderson book i've read but I'll admit to freely skimming the occasional page where I can feel nothing happening.

The author that i'm most impressed with right now is Neal Stephenson
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
March 08 2020 07:59 GMT
#205156
On March 08 2020 16:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've really enjoyed every sanderson book i've read but I'll admit to freely skimming the occasional page where I can feel nothing happening.

The author that i'm most impressed with right now is Neal Stephenson

I did enjoy almost all of his books too not gonna lie but i am currently like a bigger Will Wight fan atm

Any recommendation of Neal Stephenson works ?
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Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-08 10:07:39
March 08 2020 08:19 GMT
#205157
On March 08 2020 12:05 CorsairHero wrote:
hand sanitizer is sold out everywhere
help

Spaß is a really good hands sanitizer.
+ Show Spoiler +

However, the CDC says the ultimate cleaner is soap and water. The public health institute recommends “washing hands with soap and water whenever possible because handwashing reduces the amounts of all types of germs and chemicals on hands.”


Edit: soap, I meant soap, not Spaß
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 08 2020 08:43 GMT
#205158
im going to trump land next week and i'm not sure they have soap there
© Current year.
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-08 08:52:44
March 08 2020 08:52 GMT
#205159
On March 08 2020 16:59 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2020 16:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've really enjoyed every sanderson book i've read but I'll admit to freely skimming the occasional page where I can feel nothing happening.

The author that i'm most impressed with right now is Neal Stephenson

I did enjoy almost all of his books too not gonna lie but i am currently like a bigger Will Wight fan atm

Any recommendation of Neal Stephenson works ?

"Cryptonomicon" is a pretty good boook by Neal Stephenson
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28098 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-08 09:18:31
March 08 2020 09:17 GMT
#205160
On March 08 2020 17:52 PoulsenB wrote:
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On March 08 2020 16:59 goody153 wrote:
On March 08 2020 16:55 Sn0_Man wrote:
I've really enjoyed every sanderson book i've read but I'll admit to freely skimming the occasional page where I can feel nothing happening.

The author that i'm most impressed with right now is Neal Stephenson

I did enjoy almost all of his books too not gonna lie but i am currently like a bigger Will Wight fan atm

Any recommendation of Neal Stephenson works ?

"Cryptonomicon" is a pretty good boook by Neal Stephenson

I’ve only read “reamde” and I’d say it was quite enjoyable. Might have to check out Cryptomomicon.

I’m gonna start Mistborn this week hopefully. Actually doing a Wheel of Time reread right now, which I’m almost done with. I know people have mixed opinions but it’s my favourite series of all time.
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