Those are some very good numbers. Prelims tend to have lower numbers than Main Event games, and likely it doesn't include other 'unofficial' streams. I think what will be more interesting in the end will be the viewership numbers in the Main Event as well as the spectator engagement levels. Those are far more important.
On August 31 2012 09:36 BurningSera wrote: ^full stack or no go. You always have a chance to get insanely noobish people to fill in your remaining slots in team.
I have been doing alot of 3/4 stack lately and it is certainly better than just me and mate queuing together. But the thing is you need have good players in your team otherwise game will be very tough because you always matched against good players when you are playing in stack.
meh... we are usually playing high/very high bracket. how can it be that in there we have total noobs that cant even play sk somewhat decently. why do they end up in games like that?
It may be the first time they played the hero. They may be having an awful day. They may have been carried by a friend and is now trying a diferent role solo. They may be drunk. They may be messing around. There are plenty of reasons that may happen, but a "total noob" won't reach the very high skill bracket. He has to have games where they played decently. Everyone has games where they look awful to be honest.
true but in this game for example we played with another 2 man team. he was the single guy and maybe the system really reaches too far down to balance stacks out.
well whatever, just angry after 4 straight losses of which 3 shouldve been ez wins <.<
Those are some very good numbers. Prelims tend to have lower numbers than Main Event games, and likely it doesn't include other 'unofficial' streams. I think what will be more interesting in the end will be the viewership numbers in the Main Event as well as the spectator engagement levels. Those are far more important.
Yeah, 70k spectators for CLG vs M5 is pretty damn impressive. I wonder how they got the data, seems high for DotaTV. But if that's acurate, there can easily be over 200-300k for the finals.
On August 31 2012 09:36 BurningSera wrote: ^full stack or no go. You always have a chance to get insanely noobish people to fill in your remaining slots in team.
I have been doing alot of 3/4 stack lately and it is certainly better than just me and mate queuing together. But the thing is you need have good players in your team otherwise game will be very tough because you always matched against good players when you are playing in stack.
meh... we are usually playing high/very high bracket. how can it be that in there we have total noobs that cant even play sk somewhat decently(never stun on lane,when at 100hp before death stuns a creep). why do they end up in games like that?
Oh you would be surprised to see some guy with 1k+ games played showed up in our high/very high games and he told us 'first time lycan' after 20mins in. He totally has no clue how to build him and didnt even know he is supposed to rosh. How is that even possible? When mm forces that 50% w/l rate on you, there is nothing you can do about it. I have seen a few times that 2 guys queuing together, 1 guy is very experienced but the other guy is borderline noob.
Those are some very good numbers. Prelims tend to have lower numbers than Main Event games, and likely it doesn't include other 'unofficial' streams. I think what will be more interesting in the end will be the viewership numbers in the Main Event as well as the spectator engagement levels. Those are far more important.
Yeah, 70k spectators for CLG vs M5 is pretty damn impressive. I wonder how they got the data, seems high for DotaTV. But if that's acurate, there can easily be over 200-300k for the finals.
ya pretty sure that was just in dotatv. i definetly saw 60k on a navi game early on in dotatv so 70k in a deciding match makes sense.
Those are some very good numbers. Prelims tend to have lower numbers than Main Event games, and likely it doesn't include other 'unofficial' streams. I think what will be more interesting in the end will be the viewership numbers in the Main Event as well as the spectator engagement levels. Those are far more important.
Was watching via joindota and the peak was at ~70000 viewer for all livestreams combined. So we're at good ~140000 people watching these matches combining dota tv and livestreams.
Those are some very good numbers. Prelims tend to have lower numbers than Main Event games, and likely it doesn't include other 'unofficial' streams. I think what will be more interesting in the end will be the viewership numbers in the Main Event as well as the spectator engagement levels. Those are far more important.
Yeah, 70k spectators for CLG vs M5 is pretty damn impressive. I wonder how they got the data, seems high for DotaTV. But if that's acurate, there can easily be over 200-300k for the finals.
ya pretty sure that was just in dotatv. i definetly saw 60k on a navi game early on in dotatv so 70k in a deciding match makes sense.
That was my issue with it, I was pretty sure that wasn't a deciding match. But then I checked it, and it makes sense. It was the first match on Sunday for a russian team. So you got their huge numbers, it's an "opening" match and not that late into the night even for russians. Plus I bet a lot of people were wondering if PGG would pull it off in TI. Sucks for them it seems.
Those are some very good numbers. Prelims tend to have lower numbers than Main Event games, and likely it doesn't include other 'unofficial' streams. I think what will be more interesting in the end will be the viewership numbers in the Main Event as well as the spectator engagement levels. Those are far more important.
Was watching via joindota and the peak was at ~70000 viewer for all livestreams combined. So we're at good ~140000 people watching these matches combining dota tv and livestreams.
The issue with combining them is the number of people that open both of them. I personally always had DotaTV + 1, 2 or 3 streams open all the time. I'm not sure it's enough people to actually skew the numbers, but if was DotaTV only it would be undisputable. Plus I think it would make sense for Valve to release it that way, most tournaments only count the official stream, and in this case it is the client, even if the streams are pretty damn big.
You guys are forgetting that multiple games were going on at the same time. Expect the numbers to go way beyond 100k now that the brackets are under way, with one series going on at a time.
The current iteration of troll is my favourite hero. His early laning is incredible. His ult is powerful, facilitating ludicrously fast tower/rosh taking. He comes online fast with few/cheap items. His 1v1 prowess makes solo-killing laughably easy.
When it comes to competitive though, he runs into the same issues as ursa, TA (this is changing though apparently), and other pubstars, where he sort of relies on enemy support play to be lackluster in order to have maximum impact. 99% of the time Lycan is the superior pick that occupies a similar sort of role minus the liabilities that come with a squishy agi with no escape mechanisms.
On August 31 2012 08:32 Nilrem wrote: I do not think this site will quite measure up to other sites such as joindota. It is not to discredit Tl or anything, but it is due to resources and well, the choice of site itself. The other sites focus primarily on DotA 2, vods, news, streams, etc. all there, even on front page. I like more people coming here, at least it will make things even livelier.
DotA 2 is looking even better now, can't wait to see how things further evolve here.
I agree about coverage: the other sites should be more thorough. For discussion however, TL should be premier, seeing as its abounding with loud opinionated chaps who can write longer than a sentence.
On August 31 2012 10:56 kineticSYN wrote: not sure if this has been posted here or not, didn't see it in the past couple pages (granted i skimmed .. very quickly)
well skyboxes worried me a bit.... mostly bc half of the teams should be at the back training and sitting up there will deny fan interaction. Look cool and all but could really bring some negative effect in the end.
EPT
