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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
August 30 2012 23:27 GMT
#18521
On August 31 2012 08:26 Loanshark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 08:07 FinestHour wrote:
First day too many people complaining about dota section but no league


Just wait till people from playdota or joinDota or gosugamers or NADota start hopping over.

TL moderators are going to have to work overtime.
WriterXiao8~~
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 30 2012 23:29 GMT
#18522
On August 31 2012 08:26 NB wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/dota2ti/b/330504761

have some hype bitches.

there is a guy currently translating chinese interviews on TI2. Apparently there is rumor that TongFu team was in a very bad mood even before they play Navi which then lead to their poor performance(and a flame between team manager and the reporter). Also a part of the dialog say something about DK.Burning play a really bad CK so DK most likely wont be using CK strat this tournament. If anyone on our forum could confirm the translation, some of those detail could be huge for teams playing in TI2.

Burning has always known to play a really mediocre/bad CK. Same with Hao/Sylla, Zhou/Furion. Their playstyles just aren't adapted to those heroes and you can clearly notice it in those games
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
August 30 2012 23:32 GMT
#18523
I do not think this site will quite measure up to other sites such as joindota. It is not to discredit Tl or anything, but it is due to resources and well, the choice of site itself. The other sites focus primarily on DotA 2, vods, news, streams, etc. all there, even on front page. I like more people coming here, at least it will make things even livelier.

DotA 2 is looking even better now, can't wait to see how things further evolve here.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
August 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#18524
terrorblade mentions make my heart warm. Nothing beat terrorblade rush skadi when I was a clan tda dota newb.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 23:36:09
August 30 2012 23:33 GMT
#18525
On August 31 2012 08:09 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 08:06 SKC wrote:
I really want to see if Troll and Terroblade became useful with the remakes to be honest. I doubt they will be as useless as they were before.

care to elaborate on that?


Terrorblade was added to -CM pretty recently, I think in either 6.73 or 6.74, so I have no idea how teams actually tested him and would like to see if teams can make him a useful hero, unlike his previous version. I don't remember if Troll was even added/removed from -cm when they removed blind, but still, both of them turned out better than they used to be. If we can see Mortred used in Dota2, they may also have a place in the game.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 30 2012 23:36 GMT
#18526
nadota is such a flaming pile of crap good god, may that day be delayed as much as possible
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
August 31 2012 00:01 GMT
#18527
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=53244&p=330677#post330677

A problem I've been having, wondering if anyone here has encountered anything similar.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 00:10:08
August 31 2012 00:09 GMT
#18528
On August 31 2012 09:01 greggy wrote:
http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=53244&p=330677#post330677

A problem I've been having, wondering if anyone here has encountered anything similar.

pretty old bug, just reset dota2 if you get it, worst case reinstall it.

I am confused on Terrorblade and troll bc i played them pretty much less than 10 games after they were remade so i have really no clue how much impact they have in the current meta game. Did tried out troll and things did not change much, i heard terrorblade new skill made him really useful now aday but i figure it was just some effect that HoN meta game might applied back to dota at that time (maliken or someshit?).


On August 31 2012 08:27 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 08:26 Loanshark wrote:
On August 31 2012 08:07 FinestHour wrote:
First day too many people complaining about dota section but no league


Just wait till people from playdota or joinDota or gosugamers or NADota start hopping over.

TL moderators are going to have to work overtime.

MOAR BANLINGS SO MANY BANLINGSS
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
wurm
Profile Joined October 2007
Philippines2296 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 00:23:48
August 31 2012 00:16 GMT
#18529
On August 31 2012 08:33 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 08:09 NB wrote:
On August 31 2012 08:06 SKC wrote:
I really want to see if Troll and Terroblade became useful with the remakes to be honest. I doubt they will be as useless as they were before.

care to elaborate on that?


Terrorblade was added to -CM pretty recently, I think in either 6.73 or 6.74, so I have no idea how teams actually tested him and would like to see if teams can make him a useful hero, unlike his previous version. I don't remember if Troll was even added/removed from -cm when they removed blind, but still, both of them turned out better than they used to be. If we can see Mortred used in Dota2, they may also have a place in the game.


True. Troll and TB are in the .74c -cm list. Troll has seen some playtime in the SEA scene, mainly as a surprise carry/semi-carry jungle. His Axes skill are very good, and both versions (range and melee) have an added status (slow and blind). TB I''m having a hard time seeing being useful. I don't believe I've seen TB used yet in a competitve DOTA game. After his remakes.

EDIT: Sorry, should've made it clearer.
I know where my towel is.
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
August 31 2012 00:19 GMT
#18530
Terrorblade had a phase of beeing picked/banned quite often in 2008 .
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 31 2012 00:21 GMT
#18531
On August 31 2012 06:38 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 06:24 Crissaegrim wrote:
On August 31 2012 05:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
On August 31 2012 05:16 Crissaegrim wrote:
On August 31 2012 04:56 Yoshi- wrote:
Anyone wanna write a "Oh Micro, Where Art Thou?", explaining why dota2 has no micro?


Dota 2 has micro. I think it has to do with just how important it is. In SC, sure micro can mean losing 1 marine less or kill the extra drone but in Dota 2 losing the micro can mean death leading to a huge gold swing etc.

People shit on the micro in dota 2 but I think it is there and the stakes in it are higher.

As for macro...well teamplay and coordination is a good substitute.

It was a troll post. Both the 'Oh micro, where art though?' and 'The elephant in the room' titles are articles written about SC2. We are joking that someone should write them for Dota2.


But those articles written about SC2 had more than a shade of truth in them. Maybe I fail to see the "trollish-ness" in the post. =(. Too many newbies, LoL deriders and ignoramuses running amok now that Dota 2 has been unleashed on the site. Getting snappy at the idiocy.

As much as the fanbois on either side may not wish to acknowledge... LoL and DotA are far closer games then you would expect. It's very interesting how the dynamics inside of them actually work.

But this is veering dangerously into the territory of a LoL v the world flame war. Best to be avoided. I did however once write a large piece about the nature of competitive games and what it means to be competitive. For example, Counterstrike is about micro with no macro. Supersmash Bros has no resource or economy management. Starcraft has no team play. LoL/DotA have lowered apm requirements. Yet none of these games are failures in the competitive sense. Sadly the article never really had a place any where so I scrapped it. But perhaps it might find a home elsewhere in exploring what truly makes a competitive eSport.

Now, here's a question I have for you guys. With the unreleased champions like Medusa, Pheonix and Tuskar how would they impact the current hero pool? That is, what do they provide that currently isn't available? For example, the introduction of Naga offered strong and flexible teamfight control and setup while still being a good carry.


Of course they are closely related, one is after all a spinoff the other. I dont think anyone would argue over the similarities. It is the differences that lead to confrontation. As for your article, competitiveness is the interaction between humans. Being better than your peer is the goal with the game merely being the means.
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
August 31 2012 00:24 GMT
#18532
Anyone know which prelim games were casted by 2gd?
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 31 2012 00:29 GMT
#18533
god could it be that if you play in pairs you get more retards in your team?

me and buddy both are decent. we win games, we usually have really really good early but like evrytime once midgame starts we get raped cause the other lanes are terrible and the rest of the team just does random bullshit.

seems like there are much less super idiots when we play alone -_-
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
August 31 2012 00:36 GMT
#18534
^full stack or no go. You always have a chance to get insanely noobish people to fill in your remaining slots in team.

I have been doing alot of 3/4 stack lately and it is certainly better than just me and mate queuing together. But the thing is you need have good players in your team otherwise game will be very tough because you always matched against good players when you are playing in stack.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 31 2012 00:42 GMT
#18535
http://blog.dota2.com/2012/08/the-international-preliminary-stage-by-the-numbers/

official numbers are out... not that high tbh :-/
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 00:43:56
August 31 2012 00:42 GMT
#18536
On August 31 2012 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
^full stack or no go. You always have a chance to get insanely noobish people to fill in your remaining slots in team.

I have been doing alot of 3/4 stack lately and it is certainly better than just me and mate queuing together. But the thing is you need have good players in your team otherwise game will be very tough because you always matched against good players when you are playing in stack.


meh... we are usually playing high/very high bracket. how can it be that in there we have total noobs that cant even play sk somewhat decently(never stun on lane,when at 100hp before death stuns a creep). why do they end up in games like that?
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 31 2012 00:43 GMT
#18537
what is terrorblade like now he was remade? O_O T_T
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 31 2012 00:44 GMT
#18538
On August 31 2012 09:42 NB wrote:
http://blog.dota2.com/2012/08/the-international-preliminary-stage-by-the-numbers/

official numbers are out... not that high tbh :-/

Pretty sure they aren't counting some of the streams such as from the chinese. Plus this is only the prelims.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
August 31 2012 00:44 GMT
#18539
On August 31 2012 09:43 PrinceXizor wrote:
what is terrorblade like now he was remade? O_O T_T


http://www.playdota.com/heroes

checking too atm
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
August 31 2012 00:46 GMT
#18540
On August 31 2012 09:42 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 09:36 BurningSera wrote:
^full stack or no go. You always have a chance to get insanely noobish people to fill in your remaining slots in team.

I have been doing alot of 3/4 stack lately and it is certainly better than just me and mate queuing together. But the thing is you need have good players in your team otherwise game will be very tough because you always matched against good players when you are playing in stack.


meh... we are usually playing high/very high bracket. how can it be that in there we have total noobs that cant even play sk somewhat decently. why do they end up in games like that?


It may be the first time they played the hero. They may be having an awful day. They may have been carried by a friend and is now trying a diferent role solo. They may be drunk. They may be messing around. There are plenty of reasons that may happen, but a "total noob" won't reach the very high skill bracket. He has to have games where they played decently. Everyone has games where they look awful to be honest.
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