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Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
August 30 2012 19:58 GMT
#18481
On August 31 2012 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:56 Yoshi- wrote:
Anyone wanna write a "Oh Micro, Where Art Thou?", explaining why dota2 has no micro?

It's a few months too late for "The Elephant in the Room", seeing as the Chinese teams are all switching already.

Just replace "so far" with "until now". :p
you gotta dance
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2012 20:00 GMT
#18482
Wow... i actually played LoL 'a lot' compare to u guys i guess... was a beta tester after all :-/

Got 2 sets of runes of AP and AD carries. Yi, trist, teemo, ashe, warwick... AP has annie, ryze, the dude looks like Final fantasy, Krthus is like zeus, anivia is the ice bird,.... yeah i think i did played LoL quite a bit in order to talk about it fair and square: DotA2 is better.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 30 2012 20:00 GMT
#18483
On August 31 2012 04:52 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:50 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
You young whipsnappers have things easy. In my days we played games on 20 fps and liked it!


Back when I had my shitty Dell, I lagged every 20 seconds at the beginning of the game.
So much hate


LOADING INVOKER RESOURCES
High Risk Low Reward
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
August 30 2012 20:03 GMT
#18484
On August 31 2012 04:24 NB wrote:
talk about panda guide... it just so hard to control multiple unit in dota2... boxing is awkward as fuck and i dont think they will ever fix it as they added in summon units hotkey to solve their problem. The only down side about dota2 from dota1 that i will ever miss.

On topic about panda.. I never had much problems controlling panda's ult. When you split, the earth element is selected by default so you can just press q to throw rocks. Then tab twice to get to the air element panda.

But yeah boxing units simply don't work. It affects me when I'm using jungling heroes. Box 1 of Enigma's eidolons; eh not selected? Why is my hero moving instead? Then watch the eidolon die -_-
=Þ
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 30 2012 20:03 GMT
#18485
On August 31 2012 04:56 Yoshi- wrote:
Anyone wanna write a "Oh Micro, Where Art Thou?", explaining why dota2 has no micro?


I was flamed by a pub years ago for having terrible micro with Shadow Fiend.

what.
ffxiv enjoyer
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
August 30 2012 20:03 GMT
#18486
On August 31 2012 04:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
The amount of hate in the DotA2 announcement thread is pretty surprising, and it isn't because DotA2 was picked over LoL. People are actually accusing TL of losing it's original identity, of attracting the bm community of DotA2 onto TL, etc etc. I didn't really expect that, but I guess everyone has their opinions.

The paraleluniverse comment in that thread takes the cake though, I'll quote it for everyone here:

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On August 31 2012 00:23 paralleluniverse wrote:
WTF.

Why Dota 2? It's a bad game where only 25 heroes are used like 95% of the time in competitive play.

Wasn't he the guy complaining about Ursa OP? Do you think he hates Dota because he got owned in this very thread?
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 30 2012 20:08 GMT
#18487
People who are having problems with Dota 2's micro-mechanics just need to keep practicing. It's really tough, oddly enough even coming from StarCraft or WC3 (maybe not WC3 for me :B). Hotkeying and selecting the proper unit can be fun and challenging, wait til you play Meepo!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
August 30 2012 20:09 GMT
#18488
On August 31 2012 04:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
The amount of hate in the DotA2 announcement thread is pretty surprising, and it isn't because DotA2 was picked over LoL. People are actually accusing TL of losing it's original identity, of attracting the bm community of DotA2 onto TL, etc etc. I didn't really expect that, but I guess everyone has their opinions.

The paraleluniverse comment in that thread takes the cake though, I'll quote it for everyone here:

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 00:23 paralleluniverse wrote:
WTF.

Why Dota 2? It's a bad game where only 25 heroes are used like 95% of the time in competitive play.

It's to be expected. It's an entertaining read though.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2012 20:11 GMT
#18489
well thats a problem isnt it... if you take a look at jaedong of bisu battle micro, they never use hotkey to control High templar or defiler, they use boxing so you can visually measure the casting range as well as free up your control group, reduce the precious amount of action you need to comprehend on your keyboard mid battle. idk... really do hope valve will fix this but it looks like an engine issue so i dont really have my hope up
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 30 2012 20:16 GMT
#18490
On August 31 2012 05:03 ChrisXIV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:53 Firebolt145 wrote:
The amount of hate in the DotA2 announcement thread is pretty surprising, and it isn't because DotA2 was picked over LoL. People are actually accusing TL of losing it's original identity, of attracting the bm community of DotA2 onto TL, etc etc. I didn't really expect that, but I guess everyone has their opinions.

The paraleluniverse comment in that thread takes the cake though, I'll quote it for everyone here:

On August 31 2012 00:23 paralleluniverse wrote:
WTF.

Why Dota 2? It's a bad game where only 25 heroes are used like 95% of the time in competitive play.

Wasn't he the guy complaining about Ursa OP? Do you think he hates Dota because he got owned in this very thread?

Yes.
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Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 30 2012 20:16 GMT
#18491
On August 31 2012 04:56 Yoshi- wrote:
Anyone wanna write a "Oh Micro, Where Art Thou?", explaining why dota2 has no micro?


Dota 2 has micro. I think it has to do with just how important it is. In SC, sure micro can mean losing 1 marine less or kill the extra drone but in Dota 2 losing the micro can mean death leading to a huge gold swing etc.

People shit on the micro in dota 2 but I think it is there and the stakes in it are higher.

As for macro...well teamplay and coordination is a good substitute.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
August 30 2012 20:17 GMT
#18492
On August 31 2012 05:16 Crissaegrim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 04:56 Yoshi- wrote:
Anyone wanna write a "Oh Micro, Where Art Thou?", explaining why dota2 has no micro?


Dota 2 has micro. I think it has to do with just how important it is. In SC, sure micro can mean losing 1 marine less or kill the extra drone but in Dota 2 losing the micro can mean death leading to a huge gold swing etc.

People shit on the micro in dota 2 but I think it is there and the stakes in it are higher.

As for macro...well teamplay and coordination is a good substitute.

It was a troll post. Both the 'Oh micro, where art though?' and 'The elephant in the room' titles are articles written about SC2. We are joking that someone should write them for Dota2.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 30 2012 20:18 GMT
#18493
Dota is all micro, what really separates it from SC is total lack of multitasking in 98% of heroes. Since I suck at multitasking, the game fits me perfectly(I always feel so lost playing chen :C)
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 30 2012 20:19 GMT
#18494
too much circle jerking could scared the newbies away... man up guys!~
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 30 2012 20:22 GMT
#18495
On August 31 2012 05:19 NB wrote:
too much circle jerking could scared the newbies away... man up guys!~


But I love circle jerks
High Risk Low Reward
Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-30 20:27:05
August 30 2012 20:26 GMT
#18496
On August 31 2012 04:48 PassiveAce wrote:
how is 45-50 fps not decent?
i cant even notice the difference between that and 60.


It is, I can play with that but to get that I had to put render quality at the lowest.... It's either that or going to a lower res it seems and both things are ugly as ****
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
August 30 2012 21:13 GMT
#18497
Okay my team had CK&Veno on easy lane, enemies had Dazzle&Venge.
Guess who got 10 kills on that lane. <.<

Holy fuck. I didn't win a single game for 2 weeks now. (okay it was maybe only 7-8 games)
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
August 30 2012 21:20 GMT
#18498
On August 31 2012 06:13 Slomo wrote:
Okay my team had CK&Veno on easy lane, enemies had Dazzle&Venge.
Guess who got 10 kills on that lane. <.<

Holy fuck. I didn't win a single game for 2 weeks now. (okay it was maybe only 7-8 games)


qq thread bro
ffxiv enjoyer
Crissaegrim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
2947 Posts
August 30 2012 21:24 GMT
#18499
On August 31 2012 05:17 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 05:16 Crissaegrim wrote:
On August 31 2012 04:56 Yoshi- wrote:
Anyone wanna write a "Oh Micro, Where Art Thou?", explaining why dota2 has no micro?


Dota 2 has micro. I think it has to do with just how important it is. In SC, sure micro can mean losing 1 marine less or kill the extra drone but in Dota 2 losing the micro can mean death leading to a huge gold swing etc.

People shit on the micro in dota 2 but I think it is there and the stakes in it are higher.

As for macro...well teamplay and coordination is a good substitute.

It was a troll post. Both the 'Oh micro, where art though?' and 'The elephant in the room' titles are articles written about SC2. We are joking that someone should write them for Dota2.


But those articles written about SC2 had more than a shade of truth in them. Maybe I fail to see the "trollish-ness" in the post. =(. Too many newbies, LoL deriders and ignoramuses running amok now that Dota 2 has been unleashed on the site. Getting snappy at the idiocy.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
August 30 2012 21:34 GMT
#18500
Have a Mangix and chill friend, no need to be so tense.
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