General Discussion - Page 769

On July 28 2012 03:17 [17]Purple wrote:

KotL's Iluminate has always had a very deceptive radius in DotA 1, it was about twice as big as the in game animations.

On July 28 2012 02:59 Simberto wrote:
So, i just got a beta key, and have never played dota before, only lol. Which are some good heroes to start off with? I was thinking of some support heroes so i can get to understand the game in general better without completely losing the game instantly.

I played a botgame with crystal maiden, who appears to fit that role, only to instantly be told that she apparently sucks in the second game. Is that true, and in that case, which heroes would be better to choose? I can look up guides and everything on my own, i just need some help choosing a starting point between all those possible heroes.

On July 28 2012 03:52 fleeze wrote:

hey simbert, nice to see you in dota2.
along the support role i'd recommend getting to know some kind of semi-carry/ganker too for those games where your team picks 3 supports first. guess if your team hates CM they already got some supports
easy heroes in general that fit those two roles are the known supports for support role: CM, Veno, Venge, Lich, Bane, WD, SD (wouldn't recommend at start) and for semi-carrys mostly the ones with a reliable stun: Skeleton King (i really recommend this hero for every dota2 starter) and Sven (not as hard carry, just stun supporter) and a bit more advanced Tidehunter and Beastmaster.

with two roles you can fill whats missing in your team better. also all of these heroes are good for teamplay, so you won't get flamed by your team for picking one of these

On July 28 2012 04:26 hollabackk wrote:


This guy recommended some good heroes especially sven,tide,lich.

CM is the one of the most, if not the most often picked in support incompetitive dota. However, that is vastly different than matchmaking, and she can be hard not to feed with.

If your just playing bot games though, i would recommend practicing a few heroes that look/sound fun to you, as that is the most important thing.

On July 28 2012 02:59 Simberto wrote:
So, i just got a beta key, and have never played dota before, only lol. Which are some good heroes to start off with? I was thinking of some support heroes so i can get to understand the game in general better without completely losing the game instantly.

I played a botgame with crystal maiden, who appears to fit that role, only to instantly be told that she apparently sucks in the second game. Is that true, and in that case, which heroes would be better to choose? I can look up guides and everything on my own, i just need some help choosing a starting point between all those possible heroes.

On July 28 2012 08:06 Yacobs wrote:
I'd recommend any hero that doesn't require much farm, really. I think understanding just how much farm you actually need for a carry or semi-carry is hard for new or even semi-new players. My friend, who has 150 games under his belt (mostly as support), will pick a carry or semi-carry, farm for the first 10 minutes and then stop last hitting almost entirely while he wanders around the map hoping for a fight.

On July 28 2012 08:50 Crissaegrim wrote:
The thing about Dota is that it is all about timing. Knowing when to fight, when to farm, when to tp in for assistance etc. Not something that can be easily taught. I normally let the player decide based on some questions I ask them.

If they like to cast spells then I'll ask them to pick lich. If they want to farm I'll get them to play Skel King. A few other questions can help tailor the hero to them thus perhaps maintaining their interest. I think this might be a better approach then say - Here's a hero. Play him for x games. The hero has to interest the player or its no point playing.