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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On July 28 2012 14:28 Nilrem wrote: Entirely my own opinion but I believe this: Mark of a good gamer is one that even after 10 losses in a row, you can still will yourself to click the Find Match button. This is the same for different games as well, like Starcraft. That is why when I see people rage I simply tell them, it wont get any easier, you will rage no matter what, but what matters is if you continue playing or not. Some people cannot handle the rage and anger this game can bring about, it is sort of essential The mark of a good gamer is one who doesn't let himself lose 10 games in a row but figures out why he's losing, sacks up, and fixes it so he can go back to styling on bitches. | ||
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The Great Taste
389 Posts
I disagree, this support/carry stuff doesn't exist in low level games. People will farm for themselves no matter what hero they are and they should learn this way to get their mechanics better. Antimage is a fantastic hero for new players actually. He is hard to kill and at low levels it can be a pain to verse a hero that burns your mana and blinks around everywhere. He doesn't need that much farm in low level games because people don't farm that well in low level games anyway. Give him a Treads & Vanguard and it can be really annoying to fight him. Yes, carries are bad when underfarmed/underleveled, but this is new players vs new players so this shouldn't be the case. New players won't do all aspects of the game that well so though a hero is better early it doesn't mean they will be able to make it's presence felt early. I did make a list of heroes that new players should try somewhere (think it was in the Simple Q&A thread), but it includes carries. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
tobi sings surprisingly well lol | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On July 28 2012 12:50 Simberto wrote: And then i pick skeleton king, noone buys a courier, i am alone in my lane vs 2 ranged, and noone buys a single ward throughout the whole game. I think i will go back to lich, at least then after i drive the enemy out of my lane, and my carry leaves for no reason, i can still do useful stuff. Or farm that now completely empty lane. I have played about 6 games of dota so far, and i already feel like i am playing with complete retards. That can not be normal. But when i ask before the selection if someone wants to play carry and farm a lane, noone ever answers. Basically, i want a duo lane where both of the people in that lane are me. Also, how does one deal with natures prophet? He can sprout trees around you with no cd at all, and when you ever catch him, he makes trees around himself, is invulnerable, and ports out. Get a friend to play with. If you have none (like me), find people (like me) around your level who want to play properly. Like you, I have 7 games won and I already play WAY better than most of the people I'm matched with, the options as I see them is beg for MM stacks in big chats or play pubstomp heroes who can do OK even if team sucks like Lycan. Or, obviously, just keep playing whatever and hope that you're good enough to swing the winning percentage in your favor, if you are better than your level your team should usually get more than 50% wins since the opponents should suck balls too. | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On July 28 2012 17:32 Rice wrote: I am convinced that people on dota 2 run bots that do nothing but search for games over and over, just to decline, in order to troll people. Good thing that was fixed in the patch so you can't search and decline over and over ^^ | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
On July 28 2012 14:28 Nilrem wrote: Entirely my own opinion but I believe this: Mark of a good gamer is one that even after 10 losses in a row, you can still will yourself to click the Find Match button. This is the same for different games as well, like Starcraft. That is why when I see people rage I simply tell them, it wont get any easier, you will rage no matter what, but what matters is if you continue playing or not. Some people cannot handle the rage and anger this game can bring about, it is sort of essential I think its important to take a break after playing a few games. Just mindlessly playing and losing can really mess you up. On another note, since the whole Dota community is up in arms over the term "MOBA", I want to shed light on another term that gets me just as riled up. Its the term "Ward Bitch". Like seriously, calling an integral part of the team such a derogatory term is just downright insulting. It adds to the stupid carry-fest mentality you see these days. I really want this term to die down. The term "Hard support" is already there so use it people. And proper supports do more than just ward anyway so the term is fucking incorrect. | ||
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Nilrem
United States3684 Posts
On July 28 2012 17:35 Crissaegrim wrote: I think its important to take a break after playing a few games. Just mindlessly playing and losing can really mess you up. On another note, since the whole Dota community is up in arms over the term "MOBA", I want to shed light on another term that gets me just as riled up. Its the term "Ward Bitch". Like seriously, calling an integral part of the team such a derogatory term is just downright insulting. It adds to the stupid carry-fest mentality you see these days. I really want this term to die down. The term "Hard support" is already there so use it people. And proper supports do more than just ward anyway so the term is fucking incorrect. Breaks are included, I mean I do not expect someone to play 10 in a row. What I was referring to is the need to will yourself to click the search even if you are having a poor losing streak. It is what was done during IcCup back in the day, when trying to get to at least rank C. It wasn't based on the amount of games, but rather, the mentality of sucking it up and going again to improve. | ||
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
On July 28 2012 17:35 Crissaegrim wrote: I think its important to take a break after playing a few games. Just mindlessly playing and losing can really mess you up. On another note, since the whole Dota community is up in arms over the term "MOBA", I want to shed light on another term that gets me just as riled up. Its the term "Ward Bitch". Like seriously, calling an integral part of the team such a derogatory term is just downright insulting. It adds to the stupid carry-fest mentality you see these days. I really want this term to die down. The term "Hard support" is already there so use it people. And proper supports do more than just ward anyway so the term is fucking incorrect. I always felt the term 'Ward Bitch' was better applied to a support that plays so bad, all they can do to help the team in any way is to buy wards, rather than support in additional ways. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
On July 28 2012 16:45 konadora wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iE-lM_KvjM tobi sings surprisingly well lol wtf is that ?! | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On July 28 2012 14:13 Simberto wrote: Well, i play LoL too, and we have a qq thread too, but still people there seem less retarded. Is there some sort of starting phase where i only play with stupid people, until i get real people in this game, since it does not seem to have a levelling system like lol does. At the moment i am getting incredibly annoyed at my teammates, not because they feed or play bad, just because they simply don't do what they should do. I can't understand how my lane can be freefarm, literally free of enemies, for 3-5 minutes, and NOONE cares and farms it. Or the guy that when we are 3v5, but for some reason are stronger then them atm, INSIST on keeping on farming for 20 minutes until we have passed that powerpeak. He literally did NEVER come to the team. NEVER. You make the faulty assumption that most players are driven by strategic play. In reality, most players are driven by desire. Most support: I want to kill heroes Most semi-carries: I want to farm my core items, then run around killing heroes. In between kills I farm. Carries: I want to farm enough that I can kill solo kill the other team. If I kill enough, somehow I should end up winning. Else, it's my teammates fault (for dying, or not buying me time to farm enough items to start killing). | ||
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[17]Purple
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Tobi is pretty good at singsing | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
He was working as a singer in musicals before he switched to casting. | ||
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klo8
Austria1960 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On July 28 2012 06:27 crms wrote: I would never recommend a brand new player choose windrunner. Most often you're going to be forced into the suicide lane solo. Even if you do get out of the suicide lane solo and team up somewhere you aren't going to be using her effectively at all compared to an easier "new" hero like a lich. Dunno, from my experience low level games don't have junglers and trilanes so there is no such thing as "suicide lane solo" Though i agree that WR isn't the best beginner hero | ||
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
How does one singsing? | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On July 28 2012 19:16 klo8 wrote: Has anyone else been watching LoH stream? People talk about Dendi all the time but I think he's the best player on Na'Vi currently. I saw him play solo safe lane Windrunner yesterday and he was up against a Lich and some other hero and he went 3-0 against them in the laning phase. It's LoH WR, one of the most imba things in the universe. Problem, if you want to call it that, is that LoH almost always gets the hard lane solo, or Nature' Profit (or both) which isn't as flashy as a Dendivoker or something like that. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 28 2012 19:16 klo8 wrote: Has anyone else been watching LoH stream? People talk about Dendi all the time but I think he's the best player on Na'Vi currently. I saw him play solo safe lane Windrunner yesterday and he was up against a Lich and some other hero and he went 3-0 against them in the laning phase. Uh, LoH is good, but what does a pub game mean exactly? I've seen several other pros do the same on stream, including dendi's own windrunner 2v1 in the hard lane he was 7-1 15 minutes in solo matchmaking. | ||
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