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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 28 2012 11:23 GMT
#15421
On July 28 2012 20:05 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 06:27 crms wrote:
I would never recommend a brand new player choose windrunner. Most often you're going to be forced into the suicide lane solo. Even if you do get out of the suicide lane solo and team up somewhere you aren't going to be using her effectively at all compared to an easier "new" hero like a lich.

Dunno, from my experience low level games don't have junglers and trilanes so there is no such thing as "suicide lane solo"

Though i agree that WR isn't the best beginner hero

I still think with powershot you can safely farm, shackle is easy to land and helps the team, windrun keeps you safe as well. Ult is good for pushing towers. So overall the skillset is fairly good for beginners.
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
July 28 2012 12:00 GMT
#15422
question.

Dark Seer's Ion Shell as seen here it says it does 90dmg pr second duration 20 seconds.
Does that mean if someone takes the full duration of it it's 1800dmg if they got 0 magical resistance?!

That seems like a lot
"Yeah buddy"
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#15423


im in tears

also: @flamewheel: i notice you do a lot of 1 liner in this thread.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
July 28 2012 12:04 GMT
#15424
On July 28 2012 21:00 Ramong wrote:
question.

Dark Seer's Ion Shell as seen here it says it does 90dmg pr second duration 20 seconds.
Does that mean if someone takes the full duration of it it's 1800dmg if they got 0 magical resistance?!

That seems like a lot

yep
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
July 28 2012 12:05 GMT
#15425
On July 28 2012 21:04 NB wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bDI_gp-ILE

im in tears

also: @flamewheel: i notice you do a lot of 1 liner in this thread.

dafuq lol
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 28 2012 12:12 GMT
#15426
On July 28 2012 21:04 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 21:00 Ramong wrote:
question.

Dark Seer's Ion Shell as seen here it says it does 90dmg pr second duration 20 seconds.
Does that mean if someone takes the full duration of it it's 1800dmg if they got 0 magical resistance?!

That seems like a lot

yep

thats why hes the best hard laner. Fuck ion shell when you're melee. And even if ur ranged, a simple ion shell and vacuum will kill you.
Soe is cute. Less than tobi tho.
holy shit he sings well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 28 2012 12:14 GMT
#15427
On July 28 2012 20:19 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On July 28 2012 19:16 klo8 wrote:
Has anyone else been watching LoH stream? People talk about Dendi all the time but I think he's the best player on Na'Vi currently. I saw him play solo safe lane Windrunner yesterday and he was up against a Lich and some other hero and he went 3-0 against them in the laning phase.

Uh, LoH is good, but what does a pub game mean exactly? I've seen several other pros do the same on stream, including dendi's own windrunner 2v1 in the hard lane he was 7-1 15 minutes in solo matchmaking.


I think most people would agree what LoH is the most consistent player on Navi and rather integral to their success. When Dendis plays go wrong they almost always have LoH to fall back on. When you have an anchor you can play like that since you know your back is always covered if things go wrong. If you consider consistency a part of being a good player than you can't help but rate LoH up there.
Bash
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland1533 Posts
July 28 2012 12:24 GMT
#15428
Honestly I think it's pretty impossible to determine who is actually the best Na'Vi player because when the team is on form it always looks like all of them are the best players in Europe at their respective roles (except possibly XBOCT, but that's just me). I can't wait for TI2, it's going to be all about Na'Vi vs China for me.
I can't sing and I can't dance, but still I know how to clap my hands.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 28 2012 12:36 GMT
#15429
zenith ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
July 28 2012 12:39 GMT
#15430
On July 28 2012 21:14 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2012 20:19 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On July 28 2012 19:16 klo8 wrote:
Has anyone else been watching LoH stream? People talk about Dendi all the time but I think he's the best player on Na'Vi currently. I saw him play solo safe lane Windrunner yesterday and he was up against a Lich and some other hero and he went 3-0 against them in the laning phase.

Uh, LoH is good, but what does a pub game mean exactly? I've seen several other pros do the same on stream, including dendi's own windrunner 2v1 in the hard lane he was 7-1 15 minutes in solo matchmaking.


I think most people would agree what LoH is the most consistent player on Navi and rather integral to their success. When Dendis plays go wrong they almost always have LoH to fall back on. When you have an anchor you can play like that since you know your back is always covered if things go wrong. If you consider consistency a part of being a good player than you can't help but rate LoH up there.

not to mention AA's insane support skills
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 13:53:05
July 28 2012 13:51 GMT
#15431
Rant from a newbie.

Why is there no reporting leavers but rather just reporting behaviour, I'd rather deal with a hundred thousand bitchy whiny little kids than have four people leaving <5 mins in the game fuck me.

Also are people botting this game, I've seen Pudge's that don't level up at all and just stand at some bush and hook people to their team with 100% accuracy etc.

I really want to enjoy this game and it's the first time I was having fun playing DotA games but the leavers are really ruining it for me, not had a single 5vs5 so far.

Not to mention the spam of Russians on euro server even though there should be a Russian server and having to wait for peoples ancient PC's to load.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 28 2012 13:55 GMT
#15432
Leavers get punished without any reporting needed hence why no reporting for leavers. A pudge not leveling up and standing in the bush you can report for intentional feeding/ability abuse/afk with a comment of him just standing in bush doing nothing whole game.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
July 28 2012 14:02 GMT
#15433
On July 28 2012 22:55 Numy wrote:
Leavers get punished without any reporting needed hence why no reporting for leavers. A pudge not leveling up and standing in the bush you can report for intentional feeding/ability abuse/afk with a comment of him just standing in bush doing nothing whole game.


Okay sounds fair enough, I guess it should stabilize after beta. Could at least add a vote to give up option so I don't have to either waste my time in 1vs5 or take a leave in my record.

I'm just so angry and furious and stuff.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 14:05:00
July 28 2012 14:03 GMT
#15434
After one player has left you get a notification saying you can leave the game without getting an abandon. So just leave if you want to. You don't get punished for leaving a game that has already had leavers. Only the person who left first gets punished since he ruined the game not guys afterward. Big red text appears where kills normally go.
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
July 28 2012 14:11 GMT
#15435
Ah thats awesome thanks, did not notice it before. Also realised theres a qq thread now sorry for polluting general.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 28 2012 14:13 GMT
#15436
It's no problem. We often miss things when we get angry and it takes a lot of experience to see past the anger
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
July 28 2012 14:42 GMT
#15437
Wonder if we'll ever get a system that heavily attempts to match up solo players with other solo players. It's never fun to play vs a stack of 3/4/5 in a game where coordination is so very important.
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
July 28 2012 15:40 GMT
#15438
On July 28 2012 21:00 Ramong wrote:
question.

Dark Seer's Ion Shell as seen here it says it does 90dmg pr second duration 20 seconds.
Does that mean if someone takes the full duration of it it's 1800dmg if they got 0 magical resistance?!

That seems like a lot


Except all heroes have an innate 25% magic resists. So it is only 1350. You also have to think that dark seer has to survive during this time, and during 20 seconds most heroes have CD's reset for certain spells so they'll have a chance to use their nukes/stuns twice.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
July 28 2012 15:53 GMT
#15439
also nobody sits in the radius for 20 sec.
If you want to kill someone that way you have to catch two people in a awesome vacuum that traps them close together and then cast ion shell on one of them.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
July 28 2012 16:11 GMT
#15440
On July 29 2012 00:53 PassiveAce wrote:
also nobody sits in the radius for 20 sec.
If you want to kill someone that way you have to catch two people in a awesome vacuum that traps them close together and then cast ion shell on one of them.


Or just have a good Enigma on your team
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