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On July 27 2012 17:58 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 17:43 igotmyown wrote:
Why would you go orb of venom? Does the spirit proc the slow?
Mek/bkb's a pretty weird item combination.
I'm a little surprised they can dedicate a solo mid lane to TC against very dangerous carries like DK, panda, ck, TA. By which I mean they must really think he can do a lot. IIRC Chinese teams consider TC to be an incredibly strong pick against DK. DK relies a lot on his survivability lategame in order to get his full usefulness in fights, but TCs aura is incredibly powerful for putting DK in a position where he can't go all-out because he's not quite as tanky as he'd like to be. As far as laning goes, TC is quite a formidable laner. Particularly in melee matchups, Ancestral Spirit is extremely powerful, both in letting you farm, as well as in harassing and trading with the opposing laner. Ranged matchups can be somewhat less comfortable though. That said, sidelane TC seems to be a fair bit more common than solo mid recently.
I found out awhile ago that the -80% armor does not affect dragon blood at all. Dragon blood is based on the animal husbandry upgrade, and the -80% armor only affects base armor (with stats). The magical resistance works about to be about the same as ice vortex.
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but dragon blood is added to base armor
or is it just displayed as base armor ?
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On July 27 2012 19:55 cilinder007 wrote:
but dragon blood is added to base armor
or is it just displayed as base armor ?
its added as base armor.
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On July 27 2012 18:41 SilverStar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 17:17 sandyph wrote:
abit late to the party,
my first game of dota was on dota2
I choose BS because he looked cool, went mid because everybody say that's where I should go, give up first blood, ended up 3-18-15 with Tranquil boots, stout shield, Ring of Aquila, Crystalys and Wraith Band.
surprisingly, not a single abuse. Just 1 guy telling me to 'dont get balsy' when Im getting low health.
the next couple of games however ...... I hate people like you who can't play at least 2-3 bot games before playing against other people.
People at that MMR rating is terrible anyways to a point where his teammates were most likely just as bad. people should play against bots, but the introduction to dota 2 at this point in time is really terrible, and most of the time playing against bots will offer you little besides basic understanding of hotkeys etc.
Dosent help people like to act like morons rather than help people with advice either(Or that people get angry at you for giving them advice on some mechanics of dota 2)
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Playing against bots gets boring after a while and you only benefit so much from it. I actually learned by playing TONS of bot games, though I was young at the time so just playing any game made it fun for me (I learned every single hero skill/hotkey at that time in Bot games).
For other people though, it just gets boring. By playing MM, you will eventually match up against people in the same boat as you. And as noted, the Bots are a bit sucky atm.
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tbh, as good as the current stat of TC is, i always feel there is something wrong about the hero. Its not that i have to turn on god mode to kill him when he was still a boss at the top of the map nor the hero crashed the entire alpha map testing that got leaked.
But his skills set requires a really good synergy to pull off when there are alternative picks that could do almost the same thing without much effort (leshrac came into mind). TC ulti, meanwhile, is a bit too ridiculous with a positional modifier power plus long range casting and huge AoE plus nuke. There are just too much into 1 skill shot, just a little too much.
I am ok even if Icefrog leave him just at it is but i think he would like to remake TC for something more interesting game play mechanics.
Anyway, how is visage and NA feel? only played Kotl so far. KOTL first skill animation is a nerf btw, it is too clear where the skill is hitting people, unlike the kamekameha animation where you can only see the center of it. Its like giving kunka boat a clear hit animation where the stun AoE gona be.
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I feel like Nyx is a hard-core front-runner hero. If your team gets behind, he is an awful character.
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if you are calling him Nyx instead of NA, chance are you are playing him wrong xD.
on the other hand, visage KoTL is a fucking broken combo safe lane. You nuke as KoTL-> visage nuke... mana mana, rinse & repeat...
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he can nearly always take out their support in a team fight.
So useless I wouldn't say he is
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On July 27 2012 21:54 Ramong wrote:
he can nearly always take out their support in a team fight.
So useless I wouldn't say he is
Mm, have to play him as a ganker outside of team fights, might work well on a NA + Lesh lane with a furion/invoker on the map for that extra dps at the strike moment.
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On July 27 2012 19:43 igotmyown wrote:
I found out awhile ago that the -80% armor does not affect dragon blood at all. Dragon blood is based on the animal husbandry upgrade, and the -80% armor only affects base armor (with stats). The magical resistance works about to be about the same as ice vortex.
I'm aware of this. It still works out to be about -8 armor at level 16, which is still very significant. It'd be a bit much if it also reduced Dragon Blood armor.
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On July 27 2012 21:54 Ramong wrote:
he can nearly always take out their support in a team fight.
So useless I wouldn't say he is
Assuming you're doing OK farm-wise. If your team is getting handled, you might not have money for a Dagon during those first teamfights. Also, if you're not doing great farm-wise, your mana pool will be crap and at best you're doing a 1 for 1 trade with one of their supports. Lame.
I don't like the idea of hero that can't help his team come back.
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i played visage a lot back in dota 1 shortly after his remake. it was insane what you could pull off with him with some solid micro. i used to solo mid back then, but i heard he was toned down a lot, and now hes usually played in tri/dual lanes and more of a supporting role, is that correct?
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You pick NA to cause rage, he is an burst damage version of riki and have no late game potential whatsover (ok that remade mana burn is the only thing), anyone (especially the support) killed by you will be so pissed and we all know hotheaded players make more mistakes. Your presence forces the supports to stick together/buy dust/gem etc and if they didn't learn not to be alone then more free kill for you. Meanwhile your hardcarry had some undisturbed free farm thanks to you keep messing with the oppo team -> win game.
That said, NA is totally useless without a good team. Unless you are playing vs noobs of course, which doesn't happen anymore thanks to MM 
Also, bamboe doto threesome doto xD
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On July 27 2012 23:53 BurningSera wrote:You pick NA to cause rage, he is an burst damage version of riki and have no late game potential whatsover (ok that remade mana burn is the only thing), anyone (especially the support) killed by you will be so pissed and we all know hotheaded players make more mistakes. Your presence forces the supports to stick together/buy dust/gem etc and if they didn't learn not to be alone then more free kill for you. Meanwhile your hardcarry had some undisturbed free farm thanks to you keep messing with the oppo team -> win game. That said, NA is totally useless without a good team. Unless you are playing vs noobs of course, which doesn't happen anymore thanks to MM Also, bamboe doto threesome doto xD
Feels like BH is the better hero for that. He scales a millions times better and he gives money.
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On July 27 2012 23:57 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 23:53 BurningSera wrote:You pick NA to cause rage, he is an burst damage version of riki and have no late game potential whatsover (ok that remade mana burn is the only thing), anyone (especially the support) killed by you will be so pissed and we all know hotheaded players make more mistakes. Your presence forces the supports to stick together/buy dust/gem etc and if they didn't learn not to be alone then more free kill for you. Meanwhile your hardcarry had some undisturbed free farm thanks to you keep messing with the oppo team -> win game. That said, NA is totally useless without a good team. Unless you are playing vs noobs of course, which doesn't happen anymore thanks to MM Also, bamboe doto threesome doto xD Feels like BH is the better hero for that. He scales a millions times better and he gives money.
Ye. But then being able to combo down any support with 4-5clicks + the rage you might cause -> priceless xD
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On July 27 2012 23:57 ChrisXIV wrote:Show nested quote +On July 27 2012 23:53 BurningSera wrote:You pick NA to cause rage, he is an burst damage version of riki and have no late game potential whatsover (ok that remade mana burn is the only thing), anyone (especially the support) killed by you will be so pissed and we all know hotheaded players make more mistakes. Your presence forces the supports to stick together/buy dust/gem etc and if they didn't learn not to be alone then more free kill for you. Meanwhile your hardcarry had some undisturbed free farm thanks to you keep messing with the oppo team -> win game. That said, NA is totally useless without a good team. Unless you are playing vs noobs of course, which doesn't happen anymore thanks to MM Also, bamboe doto threesome doto xD Feels like BH is the better hero for that. He scales a millions times better and he gives money.
well lvl 6 na is a lot scarier then early game bounty hunter because of way more burst + solid disable.
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Well, if your team falls behind early and you have to play defensively he's gonna suck, but he seems pretty decent otherwise. Not too sure if I'd like him anything above a 3 role though as he doesn't really do that well with farm, but he's a really good roamer and better than lion in that respect.
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