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Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
July 27 2012 01:55 GMT
#15281
On July 27 2012 10:26 Nilrem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 10:13 Heh_ wrote:
On July 27 2012 10:12 tube wrote:
if you're playing an int hero, including rhasta, your first item should always be bloodstone
it gives you the most hp and mana and makes you basically annoying as fuck for the other team cuz if they kill you your team gets healed and shit

best follow up on that is rod of atos for the decent survivability and pretty good int increase + a surprisingly effective slow
nothing else you could want on a caster

except maybe veil, that item is grossly underused, but it should probably be your next item cuz it amplifies all your magic dmg, why dont more people use this sicknasty item

after that i recommend travels for quick gank support

though by that point you've already won so just get battlefury

Can you stop trolling. I thought the warning after spamming "bloodseeker" in multiple threads should have knocked some sense into you.


Yeah, and just flat out saying you should always get X is one of the dumbest things to say in DotA. Seldom are there items that you should always get in X order, it is dependent on so many variables that to suggest otherwise is ignorant. It is similar to how there are builds on sites like dotafire which are fine and all to learn a hero. But the builds change based on your team makeup, laning, kills, time, etc.

Bloodstone... lol... Yeah, first thing you should get for tinker (who is an Int hero) is a bloodstone... what a joke.


If you disagree you could just politely point out why you do. TL is supposed to be a friendly community. Just because you may believe that you are more knowledgeable than another player, does not mean that the other player is stupid, and to suggest otherwise is ignorant (I hope you noticed how antagonistic your posts sound). Also, I have found the guides on dotafire extremely helpful.

Bloodstone is a great item on rhasta.

The mana regen and extra mana are immensely helpful. Ether shock does 320 magic damage to 7 targets, meaning it can be spammed in lane and during teamfights. Usually when pushing, it's very helpful to just keep spamming ether shock on the creep waves. Hex and shackles both require a huge amount of mana, and without bloodstone, shadow shaman becomes nothing more than a glorified creep who just autoattacks after casting a few spells. At level 3, mass serpent ward costs a whooping 600 mana, meaning it'll be about the only thing shadow shaman can use in a teamfight without bloodstone, or a similar item.

The only comparable item to bloodstone for rhasta is sheep stick, but sheep stick is significantly harder to farm than bloodstone, as bloodstone can be purchased in many small parts. Also, rhasta already has a hex, so in my opinion, the extra hex from sheep is nice, but unneeded. More importantly, bloodstone gives much needed hp, as when rhasta shackles somebody in a teamfight, he basically screams TARGET ME, not to mention that he's naturally not tanky as an int hero. The other benefits of bloodstone are extremely useful as well, and you can build up a huge amount of charges so you can constantly spam all of your spells in teamfights. If the other team is stupid enough to kill you, your entire team will get healed too.

Rod of atos on rhasta should be self-explanatory, as the int and hp are very useful, and the slow helps a lot as well.

Veil is a very underrated item in my opinion. It's a bit expensive, but it's extremely useful when your team has a lot of strong casters such as shadow shaman or qop.
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 27 2012 01:55 GMT
#15282
This is the last batch of heroes prior to The International...boo! But understandable obviously :p
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 27 2012 01:56 GMT
#15283
captain yomi of the diamond bar has spoken
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
July 27 2012 01:57 GMT
#15284
Woo let the fails commence
What does it matter how I loose it?
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 27 2012 01:59 GMT
#15285
On July 27 2012 10:57 Percutio wrote:
Woo let the fails commence

Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
July 27 2012 02:05 GMT
#15286
Am I correct in assuming the fails will only be harder if they release meepo and techies on the same day?
What does it matter how I loose it?
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 02:09:49
July 27 2012 02:07 GMT
#15287
This is where AP becomes messy and best avoided... Three new heroes means scary times with AP. SD it is!

On July 27 2012 10:55 Resent wrote:
This is the last batch of heroes prior to The International...boo! But understandable obviously :p


They will still be working on the patch though, well most likely. So the next content match will occur pretty quickly after International.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
July 27 2012 02:11 GMT
#15288
No Meepo for the International. T_T
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 02:22:05
July 27 2012 02:20 GMT
#15289
Valve considers Visage to be a 'support'? ew

looks badass tho
ffxiv enjoyer
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 27 2012 02:21 GMT
#15290
On July 27 2012 11:11 Noocta wrote:
No Meepo for the International. T_T

has meepo ever even seen competitive play?
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 27 2012 02:29 GMT
#15291
On July 27 2012 11:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 11:11 Noocta wrote:
No Meepo for the International. T_T

has meepo ever even seen competitive play?

yes, quite a bit.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 27 2012 02:32 GMT
#15292
Is it just me or do the item icons now look really bad?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
July 27 2012 02:46 GMT
#15293
On July 27 2012 11:21 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 11:11 Noocta wrote:
No Meepo for the International. T_T

has meepo ever even seen competitive play?

I presume you're new to Dota then, because hell yes. He was first pick/ban material a couple years ago.
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 27 2012 02:48 GMT
#15294
On July 27 2012 10:55 Resent wrote:
This is the last batch of heroes prior to The International...boo! But understandable obviously :p


i just realised

no medusa

ffxiv enjoyer
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 27 2012 03:04 GMT
#15295
just played KoTL, still got it ;... mega kill, triple kill every where =))))))

fucking love this hero.
All the NA in pub is nub btw.... such a joke.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
July 27 2012 03:33 GMT
#15296
No medusa and no TC before TI2? Why Valve, why?
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 27 2012 03:46 GMT
#15297
TC? he is being remake... stop dreaming. He will came out after techies for sure
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 27 2012 04:07 GMT
#15298
On July 27 2012 12:33 Oktyabr wrote:
No medusa and no TC before TI2? Why Valve, why?

dunno. was hoping for TC and meepo but thats just too bad.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
July 27 2012 04:42 GMT
#15299
Sad no TC
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 27 2012 04:50 GMT
#15300
On July 27 2012 12:46 NB wrote:
TC? he is being remake... stop dreaming. He will came out after techies for sure

Why, though? The hero is totally fine as is.
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