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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
July 22 2012 03:01 GMT
#14941
On July 22 2012 10:41 FinestHour wrote:
wait so i got the message where it says that the game has taken action against a player that i reported...so that means they actually do something with reports right



Yup, I posted a pic of it a while back on this thread. I have seen it I think three or four times now.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 06:11:59
July 22 2012 06:10 GMT
#14942
On July 22 2012 02:53 BlitzerSC wrote:
Just finished a match where my teammates started flaming me because I didn't suicide against the enemy team with them... lol ? They said that I was throwing the game and started calling me fag and stuff like that even though we won in the end. I was a support leshrac and I ended up with more items than our carries ( yes, they were ultra bad ), and still denied that their decisions were stupid. Really, I don't understand what's wrong with the kids that play this game. Why do people needs to flame every single game, even when they are winning ? Does it make them feel better ? Is it because they want to win really badly ? But then, why do some people still do it even when they are winning ? This kind of attitude happens only on Dota afaik.

Only on Dota? Come on. People here on Brazil kills because of soccer. Do you remember what happened in Canada because of ice hockey?

Competitions simply draw the best and the worst of every human being. That you're seeing it happening with Dota is just a coincidence, you would see it happening in soccer or any other competitive game if you keep playing it.

I believe the big problem that happens is something that Rocket (DayZ' developer) mentioned in an interview (you can read it here). He was asked if he thinks about DayZ players having fun while making the game, and his answer is no. His reasoning is so awesome: excitement ('fun') is a very cheap emotion. He's way more worried with the authenticity of the emotions provoked by the game. A lot of people go to Dota hoping that 'fun' will be handled to then for free, and when they see it's not happening, shit ensues. But this kind of behavior became part of our culture, so I don't think it's the game fault.

If people approach Dota as a game where you're challenged to solve problems alongside with others, and if they realize that they're failing HARD when they're not able to work with others, that they need to bond with others in order to have more chances and to better execute everything, then the game experience would be improved a lot. People worry too much with winning and losing and forget the whole journey to reach any of these destinies.
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
July 22 2012 10:49 GMT
#14943
Anyone have issues last hitting with Razor? I chose him during an SD match and even when I am sure I got the hit, I some how did not hit the creep. I was thinking there was a delaywith the hit and actual damage, or the attack animation is barely off. We wn the match and could have easily walked over my lane in kills, but just couldn't get the timing right :-/
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 22 2012 10:58 GMT
#14944
On July 22 2012 19:49 Nilrem wrote:
Anyone have issues last hitting with Razor? I chose him during an SD match and even when I am sure I got the hit, I some how did not hit the creep. I was thinking there was a delaywith the hit and actual damage, or the attack animation is barely off. We wn the match and could have easily walked over my lane in kills, but just couldn't get the timing right :-/

Yeah, his damage goes off slightly after the animation. It just takes practice. It was like that in dota 1 ( why?????) and one of the reasons I hate playing him despite liking his mobility and nuke. (He also has shit stat growth and range). So it's just an issue of it being a direct port from dota - his animation is really good but you have to practice with it to be able to get any last hits at all in lane.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
July 22 2012 12:50 GMT
#14945
On July 22 2012 19:49 Nilrem wrote:
Anyone have issues last hitting with Razor? I chose him during an SD match and even when I am sure I got the hit, I some how did not hit the creep. I was thinking there was a delaywith the hit and actual damage, or the attack animation is barely off. We wn the match and could have easily walked over my lane in kills, but just couldn't get the timing right :-/


Not me, his missile speed is 2000, so at his max range (475), it takes about 0.25 seconds for the projectile to reach the target. I find him easier to last hit with than sniper because of his higher base damage.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 22 2012 19:40 GMT
#14946
Coolcrimefighter's bones shall line my garden path.
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
July 22 2012 20:42 GMT
#14947
So TA is by far my most favourite hero. I don't want her to be nerfed at all because she's so fucking awesome.

But has she lost a competitive game yet?
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shostakovich
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brazil1429 Posts
July 22 2012 20:47 GMT
#14948
On July 23 2012 05:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
So TA is by far my most favourite hero. I don't want her to be nerfed at all because she's so fucking awesome.

But has she lost a competitive game yet?

Yes. Her winrate is actually lower than 50%, but I still need to load some games I'm missing from The Defense and Beyond the Summit.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
July 22 2012 21:01 GMT
#14949
Not sure if posted before, but:

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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
July 22 2012 21:57 GMT
#14950
In case if you haven't seen it:

EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
July 22 2012 22:08 GMT
#14951
On July 23 2012 05:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
So TA is by far my most favourite hero. I don't want her to be nerfed at all because she's so fucking awesome.

But has she lost a competitive game yet?


Ridiculous hero Just took 6 wins straght with her. Fun to play and OP as fucking hell ^^)
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 22:11:02
July 22 2012 22:10 GMT
#14952
My record is currently 23 wins and 5 losses with her, with a game with 43 kills and 3 losses.
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NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 22 2012 22:28 GMT
#14953
On July 23 2012 06:01 Firebolt145 wrote:
Not sure if posted before, but:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNNUvpKcaKE&feature=share


This is an incredible video.
Life has won two GSLs and a Blizzard Cup. NOT three GSLs.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 23 2012 00:13 GMT
#14954
bahahaha sing's stream. That was the saddest witch doctor of all sad witch doctors in witch doctor town.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
July 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#14955
Dendi interviewed

http://go4dota.com/index.php?site=news_comments&newsID=148
ffxiv enjoyer
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
July 23 2012 00:32 GMT
#14956
If you manage to win The International 2, what will you do with the prize money?

I will buy another ice-cream. This time a REALLY BIG ONE.


:D
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
July 23 2012 00:35 GMT
#14957
On July 23 2012 06:57 SilverStar wrote:
In case if you haven't seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvSfG2OJwR8&feature=player_embedded

I dunno, the video itself doesn't really showcase anything :/
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Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
July 23 2012 00:38 GMT
#14958
On July 23 2012 09:16 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Dendi interviewed

http://go4dota.com/index.php?site=news_comments&newsID=148


Great interview.

Excluding Na`Vi's own players, who do you think is the best hard lane player? And solo mid?

I don’t like the “role thing” and never did. For me there is no difference between hard lane player and solo mid player. It’s still Dota. Good player know how to play Dota. If you are good player, you can play anything that team needs (because you understand the game). Bad players use excuses like “I am good carry, but bad support” and things like that. As far as we never switch our lanes (where I go mid and Light go hard lane solo) I can’t answer your question.

When you have 5 high skill players who realize this and take it to heart. That's when you have a top tier team. This is the real reason Na'Vi has been at the top this long in dota2. It's not cuz dendi is the best solo mid or they have the best captain or gankers etc.
Fake)Plants
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States373 Posts
July 23 2012 00:50 GMT
#14959
On July 23 2012 09:38 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 09:16 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Dendi interviewed

http://go4dota.com/index.php?site=news_comments&newsID=148


Great interview.

Excluding Na`Vi's own players, who do you think is the best hard lane player? And solo mid?

I don’t like the “role thing” and never did. For me there is no difference between hard lane player and solo mid player. It’s still Dota. Good player know how to play Dota. If you are good player, you can play anything that team needs (because you understand the game). Bad players use excuses like “I am good carry, but bad support” and things like that. As far as we never switch our lanes (where I go mid and Light go hard lane solo) I can’t answer your question.

When you have 5 high skill players who realize this and take it to heart. That's when you have a top tier team. This is the real reason Na'Vi has been at the top this long in dota2. It's not cuz dendi is the best solo mid or they have the best captain or gankers etc.


Yeah I really like his attitude, especially with stuff like the term "metagame."

I've also noticed Dendi mention how Puppey doesn't listen to Dendi's hero pick suggestions before as well haha.
Q( ' '(Q
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 23 2012 00:56 GMT
#14960
Although I respect that answer and that's how I viewed na'vi the entire time, it's definitely not true for 95% of the other teams out there, not even some of the best like DK who have been built around Burning and also western teams like quantic where Korok is required to carry and does carry quite often, most notably in the game vs. Na'vi. I think having versatility in roles is a great thing to have as an individual player, but I would definitely have to disagree if someone made the claim that it made a significant difference in team performance. After all, what's the difference if you have a lot of team comps that your team is comfortable with as opposed to the same team comps just with different players on them every game?

As far as laning goes though, it usually doesn't matter. Lanes are never synonymous with heroes anymore, and the individual aligns more with the hero more than the lane.
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