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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 19 2012 23:12 GMT
#14781
the feeling when you avoid a one man chronosphere with a forcestaff. Incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 23:33:00
July 19 2012 23:29 GMT
#14782
On July 20 2012 07:42 LeglessPuppy wrote:
I find Kunkka to be a garbage hero because you have to know exactly wtf you are doing or he sucks. Sure you could max your tidebringer early and have tons of harass, but what good does that do if you can't land your other abilities? I spent probly 4-5 hours on bots games just learning how his boat works (It doesn't like to go where you point)


This reasoning is very flawed. Look at shadow fiend. He is one of the more difficult heroes since you have to excell at last hitting, denying, and completely have the ranges down of your attacks. Shadow fiend is a hero that if you have no clue to what you are doing, you will become worthless (since even his ult is worthless without having the soul count up). So, are you going to suggest that Shadow fiend is also garbage?

There are plenty of heroes who are much more difficult than others and become a hinderance to new players. The fault of the player is not reason for a hero being considered garbage. Kunkka is not the easiest of heroes, but that is the case for many... many heroes.

Edit: Read your other post. Unless Luminous was mistaken and I missed some match at some point, Axe is the only hero that has not been played at major events. There are many good players out there that are not considered pro's, and considering the level of play for average players. Well, you should base it on the larger pool for lower leagues.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 19 2012 23:37 GMT
#14783
dota 2 client update going wooo
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
July 19 2012 23:40 GMT
#14784
Axe has been played :D
Btw, if you stack big camp, can you jungle with undying?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 23:49:56
July 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#14785
Mortred (PA) is the only hero who hasn't been played competitively. Axe was the only hero not played at the last international - since then he's been played.
dragonblade369
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada464 Posts
July 19 2012 23:49 GMT
#14786
On July 20 2012 08:49 Nevuk wrote:
Mortred (PA) is the only hero who hasn't been played competitively


U might want to look at that NaVi game lol
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 19 2012 23:50 GMT
#14787
On July 20 2012 08:49 Nevuk wrote:
Mortred (PA) is the only hero who hasn't been played competitively. Axe was the only hero not played at the last international - since then he's been played.

But she has.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
July 19 2012 23:58 GMT
#14788
What I remember hearing is that she was the only hero to never trend competitively, basically. So she's probably been played once or twice but she's the only one to never have had a heyday. (Axe certainly had one a long time ago)
GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
July 20 2012 00:35 GMT
#14789
On July 20 2012 08:49 Nevuk wrote:
Mortred (PA) is the only hero who hasn't been played competitively. Axe was the only hero not played at the last international - since then he's been played.

That's because her blur no longer gives her true invisibility. She's been nerfed too hard imo
Cocacooh
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1510 Posts
July 20 2012 00:46 GMT
#14790
first game siren, oh how ive missed this hero :D
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
July 20 2012 01:12 GMT
#14791
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valve #1 company <3
Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
July 20 2012 01:20 GMT
#14792
On July 20 2012 08:40 Erasme wrote:
Axe has been played :D
Btw, if you stack big camp, can you jungle with undying?


You probably could, but why would you want to? Undying's strongest presence is early game, in a sidelane, killing heroes.
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
July 20 2012 01:41 GMT
#14793
That navi trophy has been in the game for quite a long time now. >_<
Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
July 20 2012 01:44 GMT
#14794
On July 20 2012 09:46 Cocacooh wrote:
first game siren, oh how ive missed this hero :D

Yeh got straight on after the update to insta pick her, my favourite hero ever and was tearing it up!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
July 20 2012 02:03 GMT
#14795
the biggest thing missing from naga siren is the silly penguin button as her ultimate
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 02:41:55
July 20 2012 02:41 GMT
#14796
months at least for sure
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
July 20 2012 02:43 GMT
#14797
On July 20 2012 11:41 FinestHour wrote:
months at least for sure



And it's still fucking amazing O.o

I had no idea, I can't wait till some teams have a serious collection going on up there.

Also, naga siren is far too much fun.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
July 20 2012 03:14 GMT
#14798
On July 20 2012 11:03 rabidch wrote:
the biggest thing missing from naga siren is the silly penguin button as her ultimate

it's not silly
have u ever heard a penguin sing
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
July 20 2012 03:51 GMT
#14799
Is it just me that naga's model looks smaller than average hero??
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
coolcrimefighter
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States378 Posts
July 20 2012 03:58 GMT
#14800
what is best the best way to build the new champ naga? I think naga shows a lot of potential and should be a very good champion.
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