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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 19:53 GMT
#129741
On September 16 2014 04:49 pedrlz wrote:
debate of the century

what is better
drow support or beastmaster support
go


Beast

though beastmaster venge luna trilane with troll off and drow mid is the tits.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
September 15 2014 19:57 GMT
#129742
On September 16 2014 04:49 pedrlz wrote:
debate of the century

what is better
drow support or beastmaster support
go

Beastmaster definitely. Roar is the 2nd best single target spell in the game. And aura + the bird are also amazing. Can delay pushes with axes.

Drow offers a silence and then dies. I mean, she dies even WITH items a lot so without no way.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 20:04 GMT
#129743
Fear Lina against SNA. Also Razor Sky Void so yey. And Sna is playing Doom dp tide. R buttons will be pressed.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 20:06:52
September 15 2014 20:06 GMT
#129744
whats up with the lycan play lately? are people just letting it slip through drafts because they're not afraid of him anymore or did they figure something out?

also - dendi mid lycan on radiant 2 times. any correlation?
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 15 2014 20:07 GMT
#129745
ppl think they can deal with lycan, which is wrong
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 20:11 GMT
#129746
Semmler isn't bad at talking about Counterstrike but holy shit is he fucking retarded at everything else.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7087 Posts
September 15 2014 20:14 GMT
#129747
On September 16 2014 05:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Semmler isn't bad at talking about Counterstrike but holy shit is he fucking retarded at everything else.

? is he casting dota or something?

(also he's not that great at talking about CS either)


also dat laguna blade on a creep by fear
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 20:27:45
September 15 2014 20:24 GMT
#129748
On September 16 2014 05:11 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Semmler isn't bad at talking about Counterstrike but holy shit is he fucking retarded at everything else.


Don't tell me you disagree with his point on whether people should wait till they go to uni in States?


also, feels like CS:GO has reached the Dota level of pausing in each match. Everytime i bother tuning in for these daily/weekly matches, players/teams have issues.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 20:29 GMT
#129749
No, I object to his fifteen-minute sequence of pronouncements about Swedish politics, kicked off by an admission that he's totally ignorant.

(And it's also entirely possible to get out of school without debt if you're prepared. I went to a college that charged between $35k and $40k a year and had roughly $5,000 of debt when I graduated. Paid off within a year. It also helps if your degree is in something that will get you hired.)
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 20:30 GMT
#129750
CS has always had more DDoS issues than any other eSport, unfortunately
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 20:49:30
September 15 2014 20:48 GMT
#129751
On September 16 2014 05:29 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
No, I object to his fifteen-minute sequence of pronouncements about Swedish politics, kicked off by an admission that he's totally ignorant.

(And it's also entirely possible to get out of school without debt if you're prepared. I went to a college that charged between $35k and $40k a year and had roughly $5,000 of debt when I graduated. Paid off within a year. It also helps if your degree is in something that will get you hired.)


So basically only study things in university that will get you hired, pay your debt off within a year (given what you are hired for pays well)
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 21:01:08
September 15 2014 20:59 GMT
#129752
On September 16 2014 05:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 05:29 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
No, I object to his fifteen-minute sequence of pronouncements about Swedish politics, kicked off by an admission that he's totally ignorant.

(And it's also entirely possible to get out of school without debt if you're prepared. I went to a college that charged between $35k and $40k a year and had roughly $5,000 of debt when I graduated. Paid off within a year. It also helps if your degree is in something that will get you hired.)


So basically only study things in university that will get you hired, pay your debt off within a year (given what you are hired for pays well)

Honestly not touching that argument with a 10 foot pole. Best to let it be before it becomes infamously dumb and we devolve into general discussion forum levels of stupid.

EDIT: Is it Community general, or general discussion forum? I don't know the best way to describe that pit of black hell that is apparently a subforum here.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 21:01 GMT
#129753
Amusingly, I triple-majored in history, classics and Asian Studies. None of those things are even remotely worthwhile.

On the other hand, a buddy of mine in high school got his Master Electrician's license and is making $150,000 a year.

It just takes a certain amount of foresight and the willingness to look at things rationally and without romance. No matter how many professors tell you otherwise, or how stupid it sounds, a degree in Gender Studies or Creative Writing qualifies you to work as a barista, while a certification in pipefitting guarantees that you'll make enough money to do whatever you want to do for fun.
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
September 15 2014 21:08 GMT
#129754
Pipe fitting makes big bucks, you're look at 50+/hour as a beginner iirc
Steam: rook492
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 21:13 GMT
#129755
Quick search on Monster comes up with $70,000 a year + dental/medical, retirement and PTO. Ain't bad for a job you can have out of high school.
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Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
September 15 2014 21:15 GMT
#129756
In Alaska its way better than that, had a friend who did it our of highschool. You do have to server apprenticeship period or something where you don't make as much. But he made 120k when he was 20.

This is working on the slope though, spend a lot of time away from home.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
September 15 2014 21:15 GMT
#129757
money is all that matters. thats why i like playing furion
FTD
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-15 21:19:12
September 15 2014 21:16 GMT
#129758
On September 16 2014 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Amusingly, I triple-majored in history, classics and Asian Studies. None of those things are even remotely worthwhile.

On the other hand, a buddy of mine in high school got his Master Electrician's license and is making $150,000 a year.

It just takes a certain amount of foresight and the willingness to look at things rationally and without romance. No matter how many professors tell you otherwise, or how stupid it sounds, a degree in Gender Studies or Creative Writing qualifies you to work as a barista, while a certification in pipefitting guarantees that you'll make enough money to do whatever you want to do for fun.


It's practical to go and study fields that are in high-demand, it's just not the basis of university at all. It's even dumber to reject someone's perspective on university and debt by saying: "all you have to do to avoid paying debt for decades is to study something that pays well"

*let's not forget that the majority of social science jobs do not pay very well at all, especially if you don't pursue a higher degree; thus higher debt.
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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 21:17 GMT
#129759
One day I want to play a character with Furion ult and Greevil's Greed. But I won't because AD isn't fun after Meepo.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 15 2014 21:20 GMT
#129760
On September 16 2014 06:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Amusingly, I triple-majored in history, classics and Asian Studies. None of those things are even remotely worthwhile.

On the other hand, a buddy of mine in high school got his Master Electrician's license and is making $150,000 a year.

It just takes a certain amount of foresight and the willingness to look at things rationally and without romance. No matter how many professors tell you otherwise, or how stupid it sounds, a degree in Gender Studies or Creative Writing qualifies you to work as a barista, while a certification in pipefitting guarantees that you'll make enough money to do whatever you want to do for fun.


It's practical to go and study fields that are in high-demand, it's just not the basis of university at all. It's even dumber to reject someone's perspective on university and debt by saying: "all you have to do to avoid paying debt for decades is to study something that pays well"

If people knowingly make shitty decisions, they shouldn't be surprised when those decisions have consequences.

If you take out loans to pay for an expensive liberal arts college, and you get a degree that doesn't have career potential, it is no one's fault but your own that you're stuck in debt. It's no different to buying anything else you can't afford.
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