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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 20 2012 14:25 GMT
#12881
it's mostly leveled for the extra range
enfeeble sucks most of the time anyway so might as well max nightmare
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 20 2012 14:44 GMT
#12882
bahahahahahaha sing2 omg i cant stop laughing. draw penis with items.

rofl that axe shoulder.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 20 2012 14:44 GMT
#12883
Also being able to Sap->Nightmare->Grip->Sap again in ganks is pretty powerful.
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SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
June 20 2012 14:45 GMT
#12884
It is extremely useful for 3 on 3 battles etc. They are not as scrappy as a proper teamfight, your allies should be able to not hit the nightmared enemy with any aoe. Also the +6 stats really isn't that great when you are playing a support anyway, you probably should be getting bracers etc on bane and if the enemy is dumb enough to focus you before you sap you can pull yourself back to full HP fast anyway.
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 14:51:38
June 20 2012 14:49 GMT
#12885
nightmare + ulti = 3vs5 fight.

Am I the only one who has found Rexxar to be one of the best solo mids around? Bottlehawk into whatever your team needs, be it Necrobitch, full supportive or semi carry.

Oh btw, has anyone noticed that Shadow demon is suffering from the Wardbitch sindrome? During the Dreamhack I noticed a lot of underfarmed, underleveled SDs who fed the other team into unstoppability.

People is diying.
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 20 2012 15:14 GMT
#12886
On June 20 2012 23:49 ilovelings wrote:
nightmare + ulti = 3vs5 fight.

Am I the only one who has found Rexxar to be one of the best solo mids around? Bottlehawk into whatever your team needs, be it Necrobitch, full supportive or semi carry.

Oh btw, has anyone noticed that Shadow demon is suffering from the Wardbitch sindrome? During the Dreamhack I noticed a lot of underfarmed, underleveled SDs who fed the other team into unstoppability.



True, SD are supposed to be buying wards all game but some were particularly raw during dreamhack. Wasn't there a jungling SD at some point?
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
June 20 2012 15:14 GMT
#12887
On June 21 2012 00:14 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:49 ilovelings wrote:
nightmare + ulti = 3vs5 fight.

Am I the only one who has found Rexxar to be one of the best solo mids around? Bottlehawk into whatever your team needs, be it Necrobitch, full supportive or semi carry.

Oh btw, has anyone noticed that Shadow demon is suffering from the Wardbitch sindrome? During the Dreamhack I noticed a lot of underfarmed, underleveled SDs who fed the other team into unstoppability.



True, SD are supposed to be buying wards all game but some were particularly raw during dreamhack. Wasn't there a jungling SD at some point?


In the finals Puppey Jungled SD.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 15:32:19
June 20 2012 15:31 GMT
#12888
On June 21 2012 00:14 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2012 23:49 ilovelings wrote:
nightmare + ulti = 3vs5 fight.

Am I the only one who has found Rexxar to be one of the best solo mids around? Bottlehawk into whatever your team needs, be it Necrobitch, full supportive or semi carry.

Oh btw, has anyone noticed that Shadow demon is suffering from the Wardbitch sindrome? During the Dreamhack I noticed a lot of underfarmed, underleveled SDs who fed the other team into unstoppability.



True, SD are supposed to be buying wards all game but some were particularly raw during dreamhack. Wasn't there a jungling SD at some point?

its pretty common for a support SD to stack the hard camp to make up for his decreased EXP gain he will get for tri/duel laning, particularly since he is pretty level dependent (all of his spells are so damned good...)

Note: he wasn't ONLY in the jungle - he just shifted to it after getting enough stacks on the jungle, much in the same vain as a BM will stack ancients in the hard lane for Dire.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2012 18:56 GMT
#12889
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/vbbkl/testing_rubick_out_these_are_the_interesting/

A guy tested Rubick a,d seems he's very far from dota 1 Rubick as noted already =) He did some interesting stuff.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 20 2012 19:06 GMT
#12890
On June 21 2012 03:56 MrCon wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/vbbkl/testing_rubick_out_these_are_the_interesting/

A guy tested Rubick a,d seems he's very far from dota 1 Rubick as noted already =) He did some interesting stuff.

Yeah - the general consensus is that this isn't how he is going to be released - they are just testing how he works right now and he will be changed to more accurately reflect his dota1 personality.

However, rubick had a decent amount he couldn't do in dota1 due to engine limitations - so maybe they will let some of the new changes stay in.

it'll be interesting to see how they handle him
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[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 19:45:23
June 20 2012 19:44 GMT
#12891
On June 21 2012 04:06 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 03:56 MrCon wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/vbbkl/testing_rubick_out_these_are_the_interesting/

A guy tested Rubick a,d seems he's very far from dota 1 Rubick as noted already =) He did some interesting stuff.

Yeah - the general consensus is that this isn't how he is going to be released - they are just testing how he works right now and he will be changed to more accurately reflect his dota1 personality.

However, rubick had a decent amount he couldn't do in dota1 due to engine limitations - so maybe they will let some of the new changes stay in.

it'll be interesting to see how they handle him


I think the most interesting thing about Rubick now is that all his spells have a cast time in comparison to the original DotA where everything was instantaneous (insta-Fissure). I wonder if they will keep the cast time in to compensate for the larger arsenal of spells he now has access too; we know that transformation spells are now available to Rubick as the engine allows for it and he even has his own animation for Firefly.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 20:01:04
June 20 2012 20:00 GMT
#12892
It was already possible in wc3 that rubick could steal transformations spells. It just however wasn't activated.
So not sure if it is intended that Rubick can steal those spells
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 20 2012 20:08 GMT
#12893
On June 21 2012 05:00 Yoshi- wrote:
It was already possible in wc3 that rubick could steal transformations spells. It just however wasn't activated.
So not sure if it is intended that Rubick can steal those spells

what do you mean 'wasn't activated'? I was pretty sure that you couldn't use Firefly but I can't remember if you couldn't steal it.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 20 2012 20:09 GMT
#12894
It's funny that he transforms in a ranged ultimated Lycan :D
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 20 2012 20:10 GMT
#12895
On June 21 2012 05:08 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 05:00 Yoshi- wrote:
It was already possible in wc3 that rubick could steal transformations spells. It just however wasn't activated.
So not sure if it is intended that Rubick can steal those spells

what do you mean 'wasn't activated'? I was pretty sure that you couldn't use Firefly but I can't remember if you couldn't steal it.


I mean that in wc3 it always has been possible to code Spell steal so that it can steal even transformations spells
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
June 20 2012 20:12 GMT
#12896
On June 21 2012 05:09 MrCon wrote:
It's funny that he transforms in a ranged ultimated Lycan :D

It was funnier when you could turn into a 972 range Dragon when stealing DK's ult.
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 20 2012 20:21 GMT
#12897
On June 21 2012 05:12 [17]Purple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 05:09 MrCon wrote:
It's funny that he transforms in a ranged ultimated Lycan :D

It was funnier when you could turn into a 972 range Dragon when stealing DK's ult.

that doesn't sound broken at all :o
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
June 20 2012 21:36 GMT
#12898
The ugly truth about icefrog finally revealed:

Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 20 2012 22:00 GMT
#12899
Lmfao, i bet there are people who'll take that video serious.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-20 22:03:47
June 20 2012 22:02 GMT
#12900
Wait what? PGG is IceFrog and his Enigma black holes are bigger than the usuall ones?
I speak russian very well (since its my mother language) but I have no idea of Dota1. I cant combine the pieces. This is just bullshit. :D
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